1/2 TAFFY-AMPS 302/+3 190/+6 60/+7.25 61/+9 73/PMPS 163/+3 246/+9 310

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Good morning. Was just reading your condo from yesterday and it seems the consensus was that it was okay to increase with one caveat of it not being a good idea if he's clearing a bounce. Then looks like you didn't get any illuminating info to try to figure out whether he was clearing or not. Whew. Okay.
So you did increase this morning as did I with Uncle and he is on the move as well but maybe not as much as Taffy. In that case, we are just both going to keep an eye on them and try to keep them from dangerous low numbers at worst and try to keep the diving to a minimum at best so they don't go right back into a bounce if possible. That's my take on things anyway. I didn't look at your spreadsheet yet, did you give some higher carb LC at +3?
 
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Oh, also I for one am finally "not fearing the bounce" as much as I once did and that has helped my state of mind quite a bit. While not ideal for all the reasons we are aware of, it really does seem like part of this dance. I will do my best to steer with food but we are trying to catch up with something that is already in motion.
 
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Good luck with the increase - I think you were fine to go ahead with it. Some cats show an initial reaction to an increase so that could be what you are seeing. Paws crossed for lots more green.

It does help to figure out increase timing if you have a good idea how long it's taking him to clear the bounce. Go back to a few of the greens and count the number of cycles he bounced. Is it consistent? Then wait those number of cycles before increasing. It's not the worst thing to increase when they are clearing a bounce, but it can be a more exciting cycle to manage.

Sending vines for both your kitties.:bighug: Bad enough when one feels off.
 
Barbara & Uncle said:
Good morning. Was just reading your condo from yesterday and it seems the consensus was that it was okay to increase with one caveat of it not being a good idea if he's clearing a bounce. Then looks like you didn't get any illuminating info to try to figure out whether he was clearing or not. Whew. Okay.
So you did increase this morning as did I with Uncle and he is on the move as well but maybe not as much as Taffy. In that case, we are just both going to keep an eye on them and try to keep them from dangerous low numbers at worst and try to keep the diving to a minimum at best so they don't go right back into a bounce if possible. That's my take on things anyway. I didn't look at your spreadsheet yet, did you give some higher carb LC at +3?
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I know I did not get more tests last night in the wee hours, but after he was not on the move at at at +3 I decided to give his ears a break and I just can't stay up all night every night. And I was nursing Baby every few hours, he is having tummy issues, giving him fluids and little snacks. All of the kitty nursing is overwhelming!
Taffy is having a snack now.
 
Taffysmama said:
I know I did not get more tests last night in the wee hours, but after he was not on the move at at at +3 I decided to give his ears a break and I just can't stay up all night every night.
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Oh, I definitely would've done the same thing!!! No reason to stay up after seeing that +3 from my understanding of things.
We should take every opportunity to get sleep like normal regular people when and if we can. Try not to worry about this mornings dose.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Good luck with the increase - I think you were fine to go ahead with it. Some cats show an initial reaction to an increase so that could be what you are seeing. Paws crossed for lots more green.

It does help to figure out increase timing if you have a good idea how long it's taking him to clear the bounce. Go back to a few of the greens and count the number of cycles he bounced. Is it consistent? Then wait those number of cycles before increasing. It's not the worst thing to increase when they are clearing a bounce, but it can be a more exciting cycle to manage.

Sending vines for both your kitties.:bighug: Bad enough when one feels off.
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Honestly, I have a very hard time making sense out of the spreadsheet and effectively using it to predict anything!!! Add the bouts of no appy and different foods added into the mix, and ugh! It was easier when his diet was steady and the same.
 
Is he getting dry food anymore? I found it helpful on my SS to just list the food exceptions to the norm. And yes, dry food in the mix does make it tricky to figure out what is happening.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
I found it helpful on my SS to just list the food exceptions to the norm.
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I was about to post something similar. Remember when you commented on the feeding schedules that I had listed on my SS? Those are only entries I made when diverging from Uncle's normal schedule to help me reference to steer when he's dropping. It's been useful for me to be able to go back and remember what seems to work.
Also as far as patterns after a while I could definitely see a shift at some point when Uncle started to have lower bounces and clear them sooner. I found that helpful. However, because I gave the "out of town reduced dose" those patterns have been disturbed and I feel like I'm starting from scratch until the next patterns emerge. That may be what your noticing with Taffy's SS because of the change in appetite diet etc.
Sometimes the sages here can point out patterns that I can't detect. I always ask for help as I know you do as well.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Is he getting dry food anymore? I found it helpful on my SS to just list the food exceptions to the norm. And yes, dry food in the mix does make it tricky to figure out what is happening.
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I have decreased the kibbles at every meal and only use them if he seems hesitant to eat. I put a few on top and it gets him going. This may be a long term strategy, idk. But I will continue to look for a lower carb kibble that he will eat. That said, is he eats without, I don't give. As badly as I want remission for him, with the added complication of panc, I am just tryng to balance, and reminding myself that he is getting older.
 
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Is he getting dry food anymore? I found it helpful on my SS to just list the food exceptions to the norm. And yes, dry food in the mix does make it tricky to figure out what is happening.
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Barbara & Uncle said:
I was about to post something similar. Remember when you commented on the feeding schedules that I had listed on my SS? Those are only entries I made when diverging from Uncle's normal schedule to help me reference to steer when he's dropping. It's been useful for me to be able to go back and remember what seems to work.
Also as far as patterns after a while I could definitely see a shift at some point when Uncle started to have lower bounces and clear them sooner. I found that helpful. However, because I gave the "out of town reduced dose" those patterns have been disturbed and I feel like I'm starting from scratch until the next patterns emerge. That may be what your noticing with Taffy's SS because of the change in appetite diet etc.
Sometimes the sages here can point out patterns that I can't detect. I always ask for help as I know you do as well.
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Yes, that is what I was thinking, that this was not a "pattern" to count on due to his disruptions. Also, i do make hand written notes about food, etc., but they don't always make it to my SS. I know it would help for others to see when giving advice and I am trying to get used to adding more info, but jeez, Loiuse, sometimes the posting and updating is really a lot!! I can't put a price on the help I have received, so I am trying to be better about posting.
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Good luck with the dosecrease. I hope Baby feels better soon. Sending prayers.
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THanks. Baby clearly has belly ache. Eating his own fur. Gave Cerenia and bupe. Poor little dude.
Taffy's increase has definitely got him on the move. Amazing what a few drops of insulin does.
 
Taffysmama said:
Taffy's increase has definitely got him on the move. Amazing what a few drops of insulin does.
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Oh yeah, wow. Taffy, come on, slow your roll. Or better yet put on the brakes!
Taffysmama said:
I know it would help for others to see when giving advice and I am trying to get used to adding more info, but jeez, Loiuse, sometimes the posting and updating is really a lot!!
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That is kinda the last thing I would worry about right now. Of course diet and food intake is major and we need to be able to share it accurately with others to better help guide us, but if you don't get those notes on the spreadsheet they will ask.
Sorry Baby's tummy hurts. Hope the meds help. Fingers crossed over here
 
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Barbara & Uncle said:
No, it's cool. I was just hoping Taffy's numbers would come up high enough for you to be able to shoot tonight.
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Oh, I was not worried about that!! I would shoot over 60, pretty much. As long as he is eating & I'm ready to stay up!

When are you testing next? I think I am doing a +3 rather than +2.
 
Taffysmama said:
Oh, I was not worried about that!! I would shoot over 60, pretty much. As long as he is eating & I'm ready to stay up!
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Oh yeah, I forgot you're not daunted when it comes to shooting low if conditions are right. I'm going to check at +2 which will be at around 11:3o
especially since uncle didn't eat much at PMPS
 
Looks like a bounce for us...mixed feelings. I like to get the greens because it means progress, but I like to get sleep, too. Of course, that doesn't mean that one or both won't be waking me at wee hours for food. GOing to try putting out snacks.
Do I need another test tonight? I'll def try to catch a +11 in the morning.
+3 = 246
 
Gussie's mom said:
Hey there! What did Taffy end up eating for supper?
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About an ounce of Radcat with a spoonful of Merrick LID chicken. NO kibbles/croutons at dinner!! I know it sounds like not that much, but he has been eating 1-2 ounce mini meals/snacks all day, and prior to dinner had 5:30 snack.
 
I would say no. If it's a bounce go get some sleep. If you're not sure it's a bounce then test. But if it were me I'd callit a night. Double check with Tricia though so you feel okay it.
Uncle's numbers were EXACTLY the same at PMPS and +2 so unless my meter is broken, I think I will go to sleep as well and see what tomorrow brings
 
Sounds like pretty LC right? Was wondering if that was a food bump..doesn't sound like it tho
The main vital thing is to get the test numbers in the SS. It's more important to get them there if you are pressed and can't get them up in the thread title. The folks who need to see what's happening to be able to help will be looking at the SS for a fast overview of what the history is..the foods and comments help if you are figuring out how to steer and what worked in a given situation but the test numbers are the key to this..those ya gotta get on the chart..way I looked at it was if I poked him I owed him to put it on the chart!:p
You know Taffy pretty well, what does your gut tell you given what you know he typically does? ( hint this is a nudge to you because you do actually have knowledge that you can use here about him!;):bighug:)
 
Gussie's mom said:
Sounds like pretty LC right? Was wondering if that was a food bump..doesn't sound like it tho
The main vital thing is to get the test numbers in the SS. It's more important to get them there if you are pressed and can't get them up in the thread title. The folks who need to see what's happening to be able to help will be looking at the SS for a fast overview of what the history is..the foods and comments help if you are figuring out how to steer and what worked in a given situation but the test numbers are the key to this..those ya gotta get on the chart..way I looked at it was if I poked him I owed him to put it on the chart!:p
You know Taffy pretty well, what does your gut tell you given what you know he typically does? ( hint this is a nudge to you because you do actually have knowledge that you can use here about him!;):bighug:)
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Well, looks to me like I should test around +7 or +8, going on last time he was at yellow at +3...so that is about 4am...YAY!!! We'll see if I can come to.
Goodnight to you! I hope that Gussie's dinner sat well with him and that tomorrow is a good day for us all!!
 
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