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Brandi lshea

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Hey everybody. I was told today by my vet that my cat may have diabetes. We are basically just waiting on bloodwork to confirm. It all started last Friday. She had thrown up overnight and had a couple drips of diarrhea in her box, along with normal stool, so I took her in. They gave her an antibiotic shot, anti-nausea, and anti-diarrhea meds. Bloodwork was said to be normal at the time except for what was probably stress induced high blood glucose. I was told today that it was 188 then. No more throwing up, but the diarrhea continued to get worse over the weekend (she was still eating normally). I took her in again on Monday. They gave her panacur for tapeworms and a different antibiotic. Nothing changed. I ran out of the anti-diarrhea meds Saturday, they gave me a different one (gastrafate) and said if nothing changes to bring her in. She stopped eating normally Saturday. I took her back in on Monday. they sent her bloodwork to a lab instead of doing another in house test. Fasting blood glucose is now 244. As far as I know, she still isn't eating. They were going to give her a steroid shot since the appetite boosters I had given her at home weren't working. I'm more than a little overwhelmed by this. She's only around 4 yrs old. She's never been overweight. She had a carb pouch when I had her on friskies, but that's gone now. She's been on the zero carb tiki cat foods for months now and has been FANTASTIC. She lost weight (in a good way), she's more energetic, her coat even got better and I didn't think it could be softer. I think what's bothering me more than anything is that her vet is pushing hills. Why would I go to something with 16% carbs over 0%? On top of that, my cat is SO picky. She's one of those cats that would starve herself. I took her to the vet for that very reason not quite a year ago. Any advice is appreciated, but I kinda needed to rant with people who would understand
 
They already gave her the shot today. She's been at the clinic since Monday morning now. The appetite booster was mirtazapine
 
Why hold off? At this point, they're saying she could have diabetes or something she shouldn't in her gut, leaning towards diabetes. She had something looking suspicious around her pancreas area but they think it may be inflamed due to the diabetes.
 
While I too would have held off on the steroid shot, I am also very dubious about a diagnosis of diabetes given those high but not very higher BG readings at the vet's office. Cats can often get stressed enough at the vet to have their BG go up by 100 or more points so a reading of 244 is not THAT high. I would however have her checked for pancreatitis which can cause all the symptoms you are describing. Did the vet do a snap test or send blood to the lab to check for pancreatitis? Pancreatitis and diabetes can go hand in hand but either one can exist on it's own too so I don't think the vet should be jumping to conclusions without ruling out all possibilities.
 
Don't panic. If it is diabetes or pancreatitis both can be treated. I would refuse the prescription food and keep her on the tiki if she's eating it. Steroids can induce diabetes, most vets give it way to readily as a cure all. Some conditions do need it, but you don't have any test results yet to warrant it.
 
Hi Brandy and welcome to you and your kitty.

I'm sorry to hear she has been feeling so poorly.

She had something looking suspicious around her pancreas area but they think it may be inflamed due to the diabetes.
When I read your opening post the first thing that came to my mind was pancreatitis, and I see Linda also thinks similarly. The high blood sugars may be due to pancreatic inflammation. I note that your kitty had appetite problems a year ago. Some cats do experience low-grade chronic pancreatitis and symptoms can wax and wane. I am wondering whether the previous episode of inappetence could possibly be related to her current difficulties?

* Has your kitty ever experienced a fall or other accident?

* Did you get a new batch of her regular food recently?

* Has she been showing any signs of nausea?

Nausea and appetite problems - symptom checker

If nausea is an issue then appetite stimulants won't work until the nausea is resolved. For general nausea and appetite stimulation ondansetron and cyproheptadine can work well in combination. (Note: there is a potential adverse drug reaction between ondansetron and mirtazapine (another commonly-prescribed appetite stimulant); when used together they can increase the risk of inducing serotonin syndrome (a potentially life-threatening condition). Cerenia is another anti-nausea treatment. It may start to work quicker than ondansetron (see IDEXX guidelines below for more info).

I note from your opening post that your kitty had some diarrhoea along with a normal stool. Was the normal stool hard/large? Sometimes when a cat is constipated it can induce nausea. Also sometimes liquid faeces may leak around a stool that's 'stuck'. In addition a constipated cat may vomit (especially when trying to pass a 'stuck' stool). It is advisable to check whether your kitty might possibly have constipation-related nausea. Note that it is unlikely that ondansetron or Cerenia will help much if constipation is causing the nausea. Treating with metoclopramide for 1 or 2 days can help improve gut motility and possibly resolve constipation-related nausea. Useful information on constipation can be found here:

www.felineconstipation.org

Follow-up treatment with another nausea med may be needed for a while. If nausea is a problem then quite often appetite will return when anti-nausea treatments are given. If not, an appetite stimulant may help. Cyproheptadine is gentler in action and shorter-acting than mirtazapine (8-12 hours vs. 2-3 days) so it gives better control over how much or how little appetite stimulation is given. It's also less likely to produce unpleasant side effects.

her vet is pushing hills.
Yep! The Hill's prescription diets for diabetes (m/d and w/d - wet and dry) are too high in carbs for a diabetic. w/d has so many carbs it's like kitty cornflakes.

Purina DM canned prescription food is under 10% calories from carbs (the recommended limit for feline diabetics) but a low carb commercial food is just as good, if not better. Here's a link to the feline diabetes page on a very well-respected, vet-authored site about feline nutrition for your information:

http://catinfo.org/feline-diabetes/

If it is pancreatitis then here is an extremely helpful resource covering diagnosis and treatments:

IDEXX pancreatitis treatment guidelines

If pancreatitis is present then management of nausea and pain (if present), good hydration and feeding small meals can help resolve a flare faster. Behaviours following ingestion of a meal such as crouching in a tense meatloaf position, withdrawing or hiding, or seeking out cool surfaces to lie on (e.g. stone/tiled floors) may point to the kitty experiencing pain. Treatment with buprenorphine for pain relief may help to resolve a flare more quickly.

Please let us know how you get on with the vets and what the test results show tomorrow.

Hoping your little one feels much better very, very soon.

:bighug:


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PS: For info, constipation can exacerbate chronic pancreatitis problems and potentially trigger flares.


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