Stayed at .25 minus one drop....when I fed him earlier , I heard him quietly purr....hasn't done that in forever..about made me cry
Oh no biggieSo sorry, Beth - just seeing this now. You did the right thing this AM. I'm sure you'll be watching/testing today.
I know what you mean when you see their "normal" behaviour show up.
. You all have taught me well. Are there any negatives to him going with no shot 3 nights in a row? Does it put him at risk for ketones? ( which he has never had since I shoved a ton of syrup down him pre July DKA ??)
If his BGs are good he won't likely develop ketones. I'd keep testing him for your own peace of mind and because he makes it so easy for you.Oh no biggie
As my little niece says " you are my best, Kris "If his BGs are good he won't likely develop ketones. I'd keep testing him for your own peace of mind and because he makes it so easy for you.
Teasel is being Teasel - never being predictable in this FD sugar dance but he's OK. All three of them have a long snooze on my bed after breakfast. Lots of snow out there but they're quite efficient at clearing roads in the aftermath. As you can imagine there's a huge chunk of the city budget devoted to road salting and ploughing in winter.
Opppssssss..... got my adjectives flipped, I think....it's Cold White North, correct ? Got tickled when u called it that the other dayTeasel is being Teasel - never being predictable in this FD sugar dance but he's OK. All three of them have a long snooze on my bed after breakfast. Lots of snow out there but they're quite efficient at clearing roads in the aftermath. As you can imagine there's a huge chunk of the city budget devoted to road salting and ploughing in winter.
Actually, it should be "The Great White North". I misnamed it myself, although Cold White North works too.Opppssssss..... got my adjectives flipped, I think....it's Cold White North, correct ? Got tickled when u called it that the other day
Lots of cold and white, except when it's 90F+ and humid in the summer ...
I'll be around most of the day off and on.Hi Beth,
Just saw this now. I think you did the right thing giving the 0.25-1 drop dose. (Remember: the same dose may yank down numbers from a higher preshot value to the same sort of nadir range, as you saw a few days ago with that yellow PMPS a few evenings ago.)
When your vet is reviewing Elmo's numbers be sure to point out to him that when you skip a dose Elmo's numbers drift upwards again; if it were my cat I would take that as an indication that insulin treatment is still needed.
As you can probably imagine I am absolutely shattered today (and very, very agitated with PTSD symptoms really flaring) so I really need to take a bit of a timeout; I need bed rest. I see Kris is here looking after you (hi, Kris!). I'm also going tag Linda (@MrWorfMen's Mom) to ask if she will also keep an eye on you when she's online. (Hi, Linda!)
It warmed my heart to hear about Elmo purring this morning.
(((Beth & Elmo)))
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PLEASE get some rest today and look after yourself! I stayed up late last night and ended up sleeping late this morning much to my furry kids' dismay!Yep Cold White North works too! I still have to go chop through some road plow leavings at the end of the driveway. I ran out of steam yesterday. I don't mind the light fluffy snow but this snowfall was so heavy and sticky! Now that we've had our first storm, I'm ready for those humid 90F days again! My love for winter is very short-lived!
That's the problem with the PTSD. I actually passed out whilst still sitting up after Sashi's BG levels started showing signs of recovery and I knew you were all around to help. The Noodlebug woke me to feed her. My body can't handle any stress so after I woke up I was still shattered and desperate for rest but the PTSD leaves me in this awful 'tired and wired' state; I then can't sleep without taking meds but I need to come down a bit from the ceiling before they stand any chance of working. I'm still really jittery today and I had to take a dose of diazepam a little while ago.
I have tenure.
Elmo and I are great !!! YOU, on the other hand, need to rest your mind and body today !!! Don't make us have to jump in a plane and come man handle you into taking care of yourself . As I was reading this A.M., " who will take care of you if not YOU?"......so rest, rest, rest and if an emergency arises I'm sure you will be notified. Keeping you in thots and prayers for rest...but now you must choose itHi Beth,
Just saw this now. I think you did the right thing giving the 0.25-1 drop dose. (Remember: the same dose may yank down numbers from a higher preshot value to the same sort of nadir range, as you saw a few days ago with that yellow PMPS a few evenings ago.)
When your vet is reviewing Elmo's numbers be sure to point out to him that when you skip a dose Elmo's numbers drift upwards again; if it were my cat I would take that as an indication that insulin treatment is still needed.
As you can probably imagine I am absolutely shattered today (and very, very agitated with PTSD symptoms really flaring) so I really need to take a bit of a timeout; I need bed rest. I see Kris is here looking after you (hi, Kris!). I'm also going tag Linda (@MrWorfMen's Mom) to ask if she will also keep an eye on you when she's online. (Hi, Linda!)
It warmed my heart to hear about Elmo purring this morning.
(((Beth & Elmo)))
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Yes, I see that. If you find you have to steer with food this way going forward, that tells you he's dropping too fast and/or the dose is too much, especially for this fast acting insulin. Vet appointment tomorrow, right?
. And yes, I am hyper aware of numbers headed south too quickly and so glad for your collective wisdom. I tend to want to rush in with too much intervention due to recent past history. And yes, vet tomorrow afternoon, 1:15 central time here. Sending SS today and he is checking on alternative insulin choices...has never used the L insulins and is researching those so glad they were open to that. Believing all will be well . Also a nadir should be roughly 50% of the AMPS ? Also at about what BG should I intervene with food? Again, thank you, thank you, thank you...
Yes, nadir roughly 50% of PS especially with insulin that gives a classic "smile shaped" BG curve. The L insulins can make them flatter in BG numbers so this guide might not apply.Thank you to you both
.....bless you both for all your hard work and care. You are two extraordinary ladies
While I can understand the prospect of switching and learning the ropes with a new insulin may seem a bit daunting, many of the basics are exactly the same. The need for testing shifts a bit because nadir tends to happen later in the cycle but often a test at +3 or so will tell you if kitty is having an active cycle that needs a bit of watching or that they are just on their usual path and you can go about your business or get your beauty sleep without any concerns. The difference is that drops tend to be gentler and more predictable. You do have to be a little more regimented about keeping shot times consistent but otherwise it's a piece of cake. Once you get through that initial stage of finding the right dose for Elmo you'll be a pro.
Totally understandable and many have gone before you. One I suggestion I can make is for you to post on the Lantus/Levemir forum asking for guidance. Tell them you're thinking of doing this and why and ask for their input. I'm sure there are folks there who made the switch from Vetsulin to Lantus. I had similar trepidation starting Teasel on ProZinc but his DKA episode motivated me to go for it.Kris, that is what kinda makes me a bit uneasy, that switching insulins means viewing what he's doing in a new way. Kinda like starting over? Wondering what effect will switching have on Elmo BGs at first, if any. As crappy as vetsulin is I at least know what to expect....
We aim to help!P.S. @Kris & Teasel @MrWorfMen's Mom ......can see even after the long day you both had yesterday your stepping up and being here on duty again today has given Mogs the peace of mind to get rest today
Til +5 or whatever needed....
I wondered about squeezing out a bigger drop...the drop I do now is when it first comes out....very tiny...thank goodness for bifocals
......Linda, please explain again why it's NOT good that he skip so many night doses. Still not clear...I was encouraged by them, saw as good sign.
One reason is that his BG fluctuates more in a 24 hour period. He'd spend half a day too high from no dose in one cycle rather than having 24 hour coverage with two insulin doses. The more hours in a day that they can have BG under control the better for healing of pancreas, etc.Sunday night skipped on a 127... Monday night skipped on a 133... now tonight Elmo decides to throw on a 152, the little poop
What would I do without u, without u all ......sorry for my blubbering broken record....it just grabs at my heart, the gift u all r to Elmo and I......thank u, thank u, thank u....
