Bobbie And Bubba
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I agree, both worlds is perfect, trees and water....I think that's probably enough Irish spam
I can't imagine not living near the shore but also the trees I think as long as I have trees I'd be grand lol
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I've lived in this area all my life and even though I see the same scenery day after day I still stop and look and it's still beautiful.
There's something really haunting about living here. If you were here I would take you all for a walk to my special place really early one autumn morning. When the mist lies in the shallow hollows in the grass and the dew drops glisten and if there's a little frost, it looks like everywhere is sprinkled with fairy dust... you walk along,this dirt path which is a few feet wide and runs between two small lakes - occasionally if the temperature is just right the mist sits almost hovering just above the water and if you are incredibly lucky there are a pair of swans that come out and sail silently across the ponds.
It's a time when you can imagine that the fae folk exist and you might catch a glimpse of the seelie.
Lol maybe I will go and get pics to share so you can all see it.
There's something really haunting about living here. If you were here I would take you all for a walk to my special place really early one autumn morning. When the mist lies in the shallow hollows in the grass and the dew drops glisten and if there's a little frost, it looks like everywhere is sprinkled with fairy dust... you walk along,this dirt path which is a few feet wide and runs between two small lakes - occasionally if the temperature is just right the mist sits almost hovering just above the water and if you are incredibly lucky there are a pair of swans that come out and sail silently across the ponds.
It's a time when you can imagine that the fae folk exist and you might catch a glimpse of the seelie.
Lol maybe I will go and get pics to share so you can all see it.
Bobbie And Bubba
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It sound magical!
Carol & Murphy (GA)
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Sorry I have been MIA from Prozinc The pics from Northern Ireland are beautiful - I"m from Chicago - the middle of the US and the hometown of President Obama I've been to the cliffs of Moor and remember thinking that they were haunted as there was such a mystical feeling -never been to Northern Ireland but would love to
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Ditto...both worlds for me too! Those are fabulous shots Tara. I'd love to get to Northern Ireland some day. I do have to ask though....what is the seelie? Is that a pet name for your version of Nessie or our Ogopogo per chance!
Bobbie And Bubba
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Beautiful skyline of Chicago!
Carol & Murphy (GA)
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I wish I could take credit
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Thanks for asking that question.
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My boss was in Chicago last year, he really enjoyed it!
I've been to the cliffs too scary - lol I hate height! But yes they are a bit eerie.
There are seelie and un-seelie
The seelie are the fae folk from Ireland also known as the host. The ones you read about in fairy tales that ride out in a procession at night and live in the sidhe (pronounced she) the sidhe are large mounds sometimes with a fairy tree on top (hawthorn) they take people's horses and return them knackered (tired out) the following morning. They are mischievous and tricksy. The Un-seelie are the bad version of the seelie
They will steal children and people and take them into their world where the passes differently and a day in there may be decades out here.
See the stolen child poem as well or loreena mckennit does a fab song with it!
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Can't see your pic Carol 
Yes you definitely don't mess with them lol I grew up with the stories from the country where people would claim to me they actually saw them.
Yes you definitely don't mess with them lol I grew up with the stories from the country where people would claim to me they actually saw them.
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Okie dokie it's 4am I got the last bg check at 6hrs 30 minutes think that looks OK to me not scary or anything?
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Time to get a few hours sleep then 
Massive thank you to everyone tonight talking about anything and everything was great it took my mind off it and I didn't feel alone 
Massive thank you to everyone tonight
talking about anything and everything was great it took my mind off it and I didn't feel alone
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Tested her at 8.15am this morning she was at 254, as its close to the 200 mark, I hope I've done the right thing. I halved her dose as she seems to drop a lot but thought it was better to give her something. So gave half the unit at 8.30am after she had some chicken as a treat for her bg and a bit of breakfast.
I have some concerns I'm not using the lancets correctly, twice now she's bled profusely..
I have some concerns I'm not using the lancets correctly, twice now she's bled profusely..
Rachel
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Hey Tara! Sorry we weren't around...your last post was early morning for us! I think halving the dose is fine. Will you be able to get some mid cycle tests today? I'd love to see how that dose does.
More likely you are hitting the vein. I've done it before (several times). If you can, try to grab a flashlight and look at your kitties ear...that's how I figured it out. You can see the vein and you want to hit to the side of it. It's okay to hit the vein...just bleeds a lot.
I'm from Alabama (at least currently...moved around a lot as a kid). Talk about heat! And I'm miserable...Im a cold weather lover. I don't know much about Ireland, so if I plan a trip, I'll be taking your suggestions! I've done some research on Scotland (due to a book series I love) and some of your stories about the seelie and un-seelie sound a lot like some of theirs too!
More likely you are hitting the vein. I've done it before (several times). If you can, try to grab a flashlight and look at your kitties ear...that's how I figured it out. You can see the vein and you want to hit to the side of it. It's okay to hit the vein...just bleeds a lot.
I'm from Alabama (at least currently...moved around a lot as a kid). Talk about heat! And I'm miserable...Im a cold weather lover. I don't know much about Ireland, so if I plan a trip, I'll be taking your suggestions! I've done some research on Scotland (due to a book series I love) and some of your stories about the seelie and un-seelie sound a lot like some of theirs too!
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Thanks Rachel, I had wonderful support and was so glad to have it
I've just done a +3.5 hour one which is on my spreadsheet, and happy with the numbers it's given me. Not as nerve racking as the one I got yesterday that's for sure.
Managed not to hit the vein this time *celebrates*
Gosh everyone here lives in such interesting places. I know when we live somewhere it's hard not to stop looking at the little things that makes each place we live so wonderful. The saying 'stopping to smell the roses' has a lot of merit and if you take pause and look carefully things can take on a whole new light.
It's not Outlander is is? Lol
My grandfathers family were Scottish, I have a Scottish last name and we have our own tartan. I have a wee kilt I wear over leggings sometimes.
As I'm in the north our accent is actually a blend of scots and Irish accents, which is why actors find it really hard to do. They either sound Scottish or Irish depending on the word they say. Gives me a good giggle lol
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Success! There is one local shop a five minute walk from me and it's a post office (one person) and a pharmacy and they had them! So didn't have a 10 day camel trek into the town. Happy days!
So I think these will give me a slightly different accuracy/reading? How do I work out the correct values?
That worked!
Lol I remember reading them by chance years ago when I came across them in a second hand bookshop. The tv series is really good too!
Yes don't need to change my underwear after that reading!
So I think these will give me a slightly different accuracy/reading? How do I work out the correct values?
That worked!
Lol I remember reading them by chance years ago when I came across them in a second hand bookshop. The tv series is really good too!
Yes don't need to change my underwear after that reading!
Sharon14
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@Carol & Murphy used Freestyle strips in her AT meter. She can tell you about it
Carol & Murphy (GA)
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Hi again, Tara - @MrWorfMen's Mom is the one who really researched this topic check out her response on this thread from Sunday around 1:55 for an explanation - many of us have done side by side testing of freestyle lite strips and AT2 strips in AT2 meters and the results show the same reading (taking meter variance into account) just be sure not to change the AT2 meter code - the cat code needs to remain
Tuxedo Mom
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I also use FS Lite strips in my AT2 meter. I did many many same blood drop comparison with the AT2 meter/AT2 strips and the AT2 meter/FS Lite strips. On average I was getting a difference of about 5% between the two readings. I use the last coding from my last AT2 strip container and leave it set on that. Also I use the test solution (FS Lite test solution is BTW as accurate as AT2 test solution and much cheaper
) and usually will do a control test with each new container of FS Lite strips I open.
I have taken my AT2 meter with FS Lite strips when I take my kitties for bloodwork and done a comparison with the lab machine values and they have all been very close.
If you decide to go this route I would suggest doing some of your own same blood drop side by side comparisons so that you are comfortable with the results.
) and usually will do a control test with each new container of FS Lite strips I open.I have taken my AT2 meter with FS Lite strips when I take my kitties for bloodwork and done a comparison with the lab machine values and they have all been very close.
If you decide to go this route I would suggest doing some of your own same blood drop side by side comparisons so that you are comfortable with the results.
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I did a test solution with the at strip 2 days ago as got an odd reading that day, if I remember right it was 7.6 or 7.8 maybe and the freestyle lite ones I just tried gave me an 8. So it seems pretty close.
Alexi recommended the freestyle lite ones too but I didn't think to ask at the time about how much of a difference there would be..
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I gave that a good read thank you! So really there's not much of a difference by the sounds of things!
As I've only one AT strip left I want to save that for tonight's shot. Do the above readings I get seem about right? I will test some of my new AT strips against the FS lite ones when they arrive and see what I think.
Alexi recommended the freestyle lite ones too but I didn't think to ask at the time about how much of a difference there would be..
I also use FS Lite strips in my AT2 meter. I did many many same blood drop comparison with the AT2 meter/AT2 strips and the AT2 meter/FS Lite strips. On average I was getting a difference of about 5% between the two readings. I use the last coding from my last AT2 strip container and leave it set on that. Also I use the test solution (FS Lite test solution is BTW as accurate as AT2 test solution and much cheaper
I have taken my AT2 meter with FS Lite strips when I take my kitties for bloodwork and done a comparison with the lab machine values and they have all been very close.
If you decide to go this route I would suggest doing some of your own same blood drop side by side comparisons so that you are comfortable with the results.
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I gave that a good read thank you! So really there's not much of a difference by the sounds of things!
As I've only one AT strip left I want to save that for tonight's shot. Do the above readings I get seem about right? I will test some of my new AT strips against the FS lite ones when they arrive and see what I think.
Carol & Murphy (GA)
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That sounds good, Tara It's nice to know about the freestyle strips for emergencies just like the one you are having (running out of AT2 strips) I see you got nice numbers today - with a 133 at +4, are you planning on testing again around nadir time?
Tuxedo Mom
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Those are perfectly fine test results. As long as the test solution test fall into the acceptable range listed on the AT2 strip container it means they are reading accurately. Test solution test will never be the same even if you do three strips on the same drop of test solution. The ranges shown on my AT2 container for test solution tests are 5.5-10.27 mmol/L (100-185 US) If you get results in these ranges the strips are working fine
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So thankful! Yesterday I just kept messing up and wasted about 7 due to my nerves with it being the first day and all. Otherwise I'd have had enough to see me through until my ordered ones get here. They could be here this afternoon but not risking it.
Yes will be testing again in about 45'minutes (although I want to do it now lol)
Tuxedo Mom
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Yes will be testing again in about 45'minutes (although I want to do it now lol)
Sounds like you have the makings of a true test-aholic. I know the overwhelming urge to test very well.
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Sounds like you have the makings of a true test-aholic. I know the overwhelming urge to test very well.
Haha I'm so very anxious I don't do this wrong it's not like you can suck it back out when it's in its in. However I'm definitely feeling a teeny weenie bit of confidence now. Mostly thanks to all of you being patient with my repetitive questions I know you've all answered a thousand times to numerous newbies.
But especially the way you all stayed last night - I'm on my own and no one to turn to so that meant so much!
And as for the sticky that is on the top of this forum by Sue and Oliver was brilliant - I read it when I came to this section after they pointed me that direction and that's why I decided to take the steps I did this morning, so massive thank you to Sue & Oliver for that!
Tuxedo Mom
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It is always nerve wracking when you start to see lower numbers....as much as you want them they scare the heck out of you. My first blue number in the middle of a cycle freaked me out and it took me a LONG time to be willing to shoot a blue number. You are doing a great job and learning quickly!!
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Ok that's pretty low! Lower than yesterday - eek!
Tuxedo Mom
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You are on a lunch break if I remember correctly? That number is still safe, but you want to keep the numbers above 68 on the AT2 meter. Since at this point you are not really sure when the nadir (lowest number in the cycle ) is you could give a bit of medium carb food to make sure Tempest doesn't fall anymore.
Getting a curve done when you have a day off will be a good picture of how the cycles are working
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No am off today have to go to work tomorrow as couldn't get it changed. Then off sat and Sunday.
I just gave her 7 biscuits which she's eaten, she looks grand, is meowing at me and watching a fly.
I just gave her 7 biscuits which she's eaten, she looks grand, is meowing at me and watching a fly.
Tuxedo Mom
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OK!! If Tempest is eating low carb wet it would be better to give wet food rather than the biscuits. The biscuits will stay in the system longer. With you being at home today. my suggestion would have been to give some wet LC food and then retest in 1/2 hour to see if the numbers were still dropping. If you were not able to retest then I would have suggested a little bit of MC wet food.
It "looks" like Tempest has her nadir around +6, but another curve is always useful The more information you have the better.
ETA Even the 72 is still a nice safe number as long as it wasn't dropping lower.
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I will remember that for the next time (please no next time) I'm going to retest in 15 minutes that's 30 minutes after her last test.
I just hope she's ok tomorrow, even if I'm home at lunch. I will make sure to make it 6 hours after her shot and think I will stick with the half dose I gave her this morning.
My vet specifically said not to give less. But to me she'd be at the hospital right now if I had.
I just hope she's ok tomorrow, even if I'm home at lunch. I will make sure to make it 6 hours after her shot and think I will stick with the half dose I gave her this morning.
My vet specifically said not to give less. But to me she'd be at the hospital right now if I had.
Tuxedo Mom
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You want to keep the numbers in a safe area but not "over-carb" Tempest. If she was having very low numbers and falling numbers then you can pull out the big guns, but at 72 and at +6 it is more of a watch and see, since you are at home.
The 0.50 unit is definitely doing its job, so it is best to stick with that. The vet may mean well, but knowing your own kitty and seeing the way the dose causes the numbers to drop over-rides anything the vet has to say. You are working WITH Tempest and how she responds and that is the best approach.
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So if she went into the lime green on the ss then give biscuits? If she hits that then what happens, would she go straight into a hypo? Or is there time to pull her back at that stage?
He is not keen on me doing the curves, says its outdated and they aren't done but that I could periodically test. I think he knew the futility there as he then said 'I could I suppose check the nadir'
I'm going to retest now.
He is not keen on me doing the curves, says its outdated and they aren't done but that I could periodically test. I think he knew the futility there as he then said 'I could I suppose check the nadir'
I'm going to retest now.
Tuxedo Mom
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So if she went into the lime green on the ss then give biscuits? If she hits that then what happens, would she go straight into a hypo? Or is there time to pull her back at that stage?
He is not keen on me doing the curves, says its outdated and they aren't done but that I could periodically test. I think he knew the futility there as he then said 'I could I suppose check the nadir'
I'm going to retest now.
With using the AT2 meter you want to keep above 68. If you were getting lower numbers early in the cycle..say at +2 or +3 you would want to intervene. If your kitty hit the lime greens you would want to give some gravy from HC wet food and a bit of syrup/honey/ maple syrup anything like that.
You should organize a hypo kit...hopefully you will never need it but for just in case. Here is a link to dealing with hypos:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/how-to-treat-hypos-they-can-kill-print-this-out.15887/
And here is one with suggestions for what to keep in the kit:
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/jojo-and-bunnys-hypo-tool-box.2354/
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Ok I understand better now. Overacting still here. Her numbers improved (someone called at the door so only just got it) +7
I'm not sure I'd given enough of the biscuits to make much of a difference there. But it's at 90 now. So definitely going up.
I'm not sure I'd given enough of the biscuits to make much of a difference there. But it's at 90 now. So definitely going up.
Tuxedo Mom
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That 90 is just fine! The biscuits will bring the numbers up, it is just that the higher carb effect lasts longer with the biscuits than it does with wet food. But always best to err on the side of caution until you have more data.
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I'm pretty tired today so everything is much harder. 3hrs 30 minutes is not really enough for me to function on. Lol
So going to leave it for a couple of hours to her preshot and use my last AT strip for that. And definitely the .5 dose (half dose) numbers aren't my thing at the best of times. tomorrow I will do the basics only then Saturday try to do every 2 hours the whole day. That should give me a better pic.
Poor Tempest is tired of all the prodding and poking too.
So going to leave it for a couple of hours to her preshot and use my last AT strip for that. And definitely the .5 dose (half dose) numbers aren't my thing at the best of times.
tomorrow I will do the basics only then Saturday try to do every 2 hours the whole day. That should give me a better pic. Poor Tempest is tired of all the prodding and poking too.
Tuxedo Mom
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I'm pretty tired today so everything is much harder. 3hrs 30 minutes is not really enough for me to function on. Lol
So going to leave it for a couple of hours to her preshot and use my last AT strip for that. And definitely the .5 dose (half dose) numbers aren't my thing at the best of times.
Poor Tempest is tired of all the prodding and poking too.
Yes sleep deprivation makes even the simple things difficult to deal with. There is no need to test anymore until the preshot. Poor Tempest
Even the 0.50 unit is giving a strong reaction, so if the preshot number is low you can post for help and you may need to skip this shot. Doing a curve on Saturday should give a good picture on how the insulin is working through the cycle. So for now give Tempest's ears a rest and you go and relax too.
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Yes sleep deprivation makes even the simple things difficult to deal with. There is no need to test anymore until the preshot. Poor Tempest....all that poking and prodding...I hope she realizes it is all for her own good.
Even the 0.50 unit is giving a strong reaction, so if the preshot number is low you can post for help and you may need to skip this shot. Doing a curve on Saturday should give a good picture on how the insulin is working through the cycle. So for now give Tempest's ears a rest and you go and relax too.
Yes bless her, she's starting to let me know.
I will post my numbers up before I give her it if they are 250 or less and see. I do think the .50 is good for her and my nerves lol
I'm off to collect my dog from a friends house and then watch tv in bed lol pjs when I get home lol
Haha love the emoji that one doesn't come up for me
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Carol & Murphy (GA)
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Have a great rest of the day Tara and enjoy TV -
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Yes bless her, she's starting to let me know.
I will post my numbers up before I give her it if they are 250 or less and see. I do think the .50 is good for her and my nerves lol
I'm off to collect my dog from a friends house and then watch tv in bed lol pjs when I get home lol
Haha love the emoji that one doesn't come up for me
Thank you!
It is from an earlier version of this site. Here is the link to other emoticons. You just need to copy and paste in your comments.
http://www.felinediabetes.com/OLDFDMB/posting.php?mode=smilies&f=9#
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Just catching up here! What a beautiful cycle Tempest had today. Tara you must be exhausted but you are handling this like a pro! Those first green numbers were scary for all of us so we understand all too well. Will be watching to see what the PMPS brings! 
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Just catching up here! What a beautiful cycle Tempest had today. Tara you must be exhausted but you are handling this like a pro! Those first green numbers were scary for all of us so we understand all too well. Will be watching to see what the PMPS brings!
Just done her pmps and I'm happy to give the .50 as she has a high reading. Really think this is the dose she should have been started on.
I used my last AT strip and tested the FS strip on the same droplet which I've added into notes.
AT strip tested @ 18.1 (326)
FS strip tested @ 19.7
I'm absolutely shattered and feeling so ill! But I feel it's worth it!
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