Possible Stomatitis In Young Civvie; Anyone Else Had This?

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Elizabeth and Bertie

Elizabeth and Bertie

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Our most recent addition, Jasmine, was drooling blood-tinged saliva this afternoon, and looked really unhappy, so we managed to get an emergency vet appt for her.

One of her teeth was so loose that the vet could just grab it and pull it out there and then. I was so shocked! (And it seems that the loose tooth was the source of the blood in her saliva). She also has other loose teeth; and her teeth look like those of a 14/15 year old, despite the fact that she is a few of months short of her second birthday...
She's booked in for a dental on Monday morning.... at about 19/20 months of age.... And it's thought that she may need all her teeth removed (though this may be done in two sessions, over a period of time....)
Poor little love!
Has anyone else here had direct experience of this kind of condition...?

Thanks in advance, lovely FDMB chums....

Eliz
 
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Here's a pic of Jasmine taken just last week...
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OH MY!!! Poor little Jasmine. Sorry I can't be of any assistance with information, but I will be sending prayers and healing energy for Jasmine with hopes that the dental can fix this awful problem. So young too..how sad! :(

Sending hugs for you. I can imagine how stressed you must be. :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
 
Eliz, I know this is a shock but as I said earlier, one of my neighbour's cats had just this condition and also at a young age... I cat sit for this kitty and his sister and can vouch for the fact that he is fine, a few years down the line... A really lovely, loving little boy. Maybe some kitties are just pre-disposed to such a thing in the same way that others get FD etc. The good news is that cats seem to be able to adapt perfectly well with no teeth - if it comes to that with Jasmine - and it shouldn't affect her overall health or quality of life at all.

If you like I will have a chat with my neighbour and pass on any other info...

Hugs
Diana
 
Ahhh! poor little Jasmine. Such a pretty girl! I understand the shock you must be feeling. My little feral fellow had 8 teeth extracted when he was just over two years old but the vet didn't find any loose teeth that I am aware of and I don't recall the vet saying it was Stomatitis so may not be the same situation. He is now almost 6 and he's been just fine since and didn't need another dental at his yearly last fall although I'm pretty sure he may need one this coming checkup.
 
Eliz, I've emailed my neighbour, Sarah,mand asked her to tell me in her own words how her little Jay manages with no teeth... When I hear back from her I will forward it to you.
Meanwhile I have (like you I'm sure!) looked online for some further info and it really is true that cats can manage fine with no teeth. Animals need them in the wild to hunt and tear flesh, but in the domestic environment they are hardly disadvantaged at all.

Big hugs to you my dear Eliz

Diana xx
 
My Maxie girlie only has her front incisors (fangs) left. The rest were removed when she had her dental earlier this year. She is almost 16, but she has managed to eat with no problem. I just can't give her chunky foods since she can't chew them properly. But I have actually given her the odd few pieces of Orijen hard food as an appetite starter when she is being picky and she even manages to eat those. Kitties are pretty resilient.
 
Thanks for your reassurances, dear people. :bighug:

We've got two kitties going for dentals next week...

As well as Jasmine having her dental on Monday, our 18 year old tortie, Sophie, is having a dental on Wednesday (her second one in 6 months.)
Yikes! :nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting:

Poor old Sophie. It's so hard to get food into her, and we're really hoping this second dental will make a difference.... Still, she's enjoying the sunshine today, dozing in a plant pot at the end of the garden, bless her...
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Another beauty! She looks very content in her "planter"! :D Gonna be tough week for you I'm sure but they will both be fine! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:

Sending healing vines and scritches for both Jasmine and Sophie!
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Eleanor developed stomatitis and had to have all of her teeth removed when she was 8 years old. She will be 13 next month and she has not had any "mouth" issues since the surgery. I piddled around with antibiotics and pain meds, the poor cat was in so much pain she was barely able to eat when I finally took her in for the dental.
She was in a LOT of pain from the extractions for a couple days but she recovered quickly and has never had any trouble eating.
It is really important to take the cat to a dental surgeon or at least someone with experience with extractions, and be sure the mouth is x-rayed after the surgery to be sure all of the roots were removed. If any are left in there can be problems in the future requiring more surgery.
 
Hi Julie @Julie and Eleanor, thanks so much for that info. I'm so glad your Eleanor has been free from mouth issues since her teeth were removed. :cat:

Jasmine's dental on Monday is going to be with the vet at our local practice who has a particular interest in dentistry. It's a sort of 'emergency dental' and it's unlikely Jasmine will have all teeth removed at that point (my understanding is that the vet plans to clean up the teeth, assess the situation and do a proper diagnosis, and do any immediate extractions that need to be done (there are some very wobbly teeth...)). It's quite possible that she will then refer us to a specialist veterinary dentist, about an hours' drive from us. Their facilities are very much more sophisticated, and that's where our old girl, Sophie, is going on Wednesday.... <Eliz's stomach still turns over at the thought...:nailbiting: >

Eliz
 
((((Eliz)))) it's just rotten luck that both Jasmine and Sophie (and you!) are having to go through this at the same time....sometimes life is like that. I'm sure though that they will be in the very best possible hands so try to stay positive and consider how very much better they will feel afterwards.
They have the best cat mum in the world to give them post-operative care and as long as you make sure there's a bottle or two of wine in the fridge you'll be ok too ... seriously, it is very important to look after yourself. Stress is exhausting and little treats are absolutely imperative. (Emojis not working for some reason but I was trying to include wine, chocolate, cake and ice cream...)

Hugs
Diana xx
 
Jackson wasn't even a year old yet, when my vet said that he would have bad teeth. She saw gingivitis on his front teeth already, and said that some cats are just like that and that his feral mom probably never was exposed to gingivitis and thus didn't give him the antibodies, or something like that. I was told to put enzymatic toothpaste on his front teeth every day. I hope it helps him. Poor little guy.
When J.D. had his dental at 18 years old, we went to a Veterinary Dental Specialist at a fancy hospital, that was an hours drive away, too. I felt so much more comfortable there. I had a cardiologist appointment for him first (about 2 hours before the dental) to make sure he would be okay with the anesthesia, and paid for a dedicated anesthesiologist. He did fine, and had another 8 teeth removed including a badly abscessed canine.

I am sending perfect dental vines for both Sophie and Jasmine this week and :bighug: to you. I know it's tough.
 
My older civvie cat Jane had some auto-immune sort of stomatitis and when she was three had about half of her teeth removed. They cleaned the rest of the teeth. The vet initially thought we'd have to remove all the teeth, her gums and mouth were so bad. The removal and cleaning stopped whatever immune process was contributing to the issue, and Jane continues to have very clean teeth with no additional dental care needed. She's 17 now. The biggest issue with removing teeth is the long-term bone loss that it can cause in the jaw. If you look at my kitty's face you can see that she has some atrophy in her lower jaw, which at her age now makes it harder to eat and puts her at risk for fractures. This really wasn't an issue until recently. I suspect if she had all teeth removed it might have become apparent earlier in her life. Overall though, they manage just fine without the offending teeth.
 
Meya14 said:
The biggest issue with removing teeth is the long-term bone loss that it can cause in the jaw.
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Meya, thank you very much for this info and for your insights. ...The possible long term bone loss in the jaw is certainly something that has been bothering me.... I read somewhere (can't think where!) that keeping the canines in can help maintain jaw structure... I clearly need to read up more!!! :bighug:

Eliz
 
Yeah they tried to keep the canines (one had already broken off, the rest were kept) as well as the small front teeth. Most all the back teeth were removed. The bone loss really has only become apparent in the last few years. At 17, it's really the least of our worries. Much happier that she didn't have to have chronic infections in her mouth for any longer than necessary.
 
Eliz

How is Jasmine doing after all her teeth extractions??

Sending feel better energy for her and some :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: for you.
 
Elizabeth and Bertie said:
Our most recent addition, Jasmine, was drooling blood-tinged saliva this afternoon, and looked really unhappy, so we managed to get an emergency vet appt for her.

One of her teeth was so loose that the vet could just grab it and pull it out there and then. I was so shocked! (And it seems that the loose tooth was the source of the blood in her saliva). She also has other loose teeth; and her teeth look like those of a 14/15 year old, despite the fact that she is a few of months short of her second birthday...
She's booked in for a dental on Monday morning.... at about 19/20 months of age.... And it's thought that she may need all her teeth removed (though this may be done in two sessions, over a period of time....)
Poor little love!
Has anyone else here had direct experience of this kind of condition...?

Thanks in advance, lovely FDMB chums....

Eliz
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There are two remedies that may help resolve stomatitis, or at least help heal the mouth after having cleaning and treatment for it: Ubiquinol, (NOT ubiquinone) otherwise known as CoQ10. Use only the ubiquinol version, and preferably not a people version which has sorbitol or other excipients. I understand that the Mercola Pets version is flavorless and a good option. Ubiquinol heals and strengthens the gums. I think the dose is 1mg per pound of kitty; it may be higher for stomatitis. The second supplement I recently learned of Melatonin. I do not know the dose of Melatonin for cats, or even if it would be recommended for them, just that it has shown to help in people with stomatitis. I would start immediately with Ubiquinol first.
 
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