Hitchcock now has Diabetes

Status
Not open for further replies.
Hi Dana, that's quite a drop. You might be in for another active day. Hitchcock is going to have you back into this routine very quickly. I can't help with Prozinc, just wanted to say hi and you did a great job last night getting him up safely.
 
dana moore said:
I read that it's better to give soft food with gravy then to give hard treats because the dry food stays in their system longer is that true? I'm going to check his sugar again at 30 minutes
Click to expand...

What really works well is to give just a teaspoon of the gravy off the food, rather than the actual food. It has the carbs, but is less likely to fill him up.
 
That 96 is still a good number, Dana. And it appears that the drop is slowing down now, but I would recommend you test again in 25-30 so that you can catch him & steer back up a bit with a small amount of low-carb (yes, you could add a touch of gravy then, if you like) before he starts heading down around, say 65-ish. Sue is correct re: You don't want to fill him up with too much food, as you don't really know yet how often you'll be required to steer this cycle.
 
I will make this quick. I don't want to clog up the info you need which is more important right now. In regards to Sheba food. Stick to the cans not the perfect portions. I know the cans were okay at I believe 2.5 carbs. I'm waiting to find out about perfect portions. They seem to be much higher (at least the beef is).
 
See how he's slowing down now? That's good news! Check again in 30 minutes, though, ok? (I promise you won't have to do quite so much testing in future, but today you need to.)
 
dana moore said:
should I try giving him .5 tonight? Instead of one unit
Click to expand...
You know, I think that would be wise. Two reasons:

1) He's obviously dropping a little too much at the 1-unit dose (in terms of where he started at AMPS time), so this should help slow that down some.

2) Also, you'll be able to see by AMPS tomorrow how that 0.5 unit dose worked for him, and then we can adjust dose from there, if needed.
 
dana moore said:
It's 82 at 4+ he's eating some low carb soft food right now.
Click to expand...
PERFECT!!! Just so you know ... still need to check in about 45 min or so to make sure that little bump of food has kicked in. There are some kitties whose little bodies will try to drop once again a little later in the cycle, so is a good idea to keep monitoring those BGs this cycle, just in case you need to do another tiny bump of low-carb a little later on.
 
dana moore said:
7+ is that normal?
Click to expand...
He's probably bouncing some now, Dana. The important thing is to not over-correct for that bounce, meaning I STILL think you need to lower that dose next pre-shot time. He will bounce until ... he stops. :rolleyes: Is not at all uncommon.

You may have already told us this, but have you checked ketones today at all?
 
Robin&BB said:
The important thing is to not over-correct for that bounce, meaning I STILL think you need to lower that dose next pre-shot time.
Click to expand...
So even if he spikes you a high pre-shot # at PMPS, it's really better to lower the dose because we don't want too see such an extreme drop like we did today (AMPS = 463, +4 = 82.)

You can thank your vet for starting this bouncing reaction you're seeing (because the dose he gave was too much), and now you're the one who has to deal with it until Hitch starts leveling out again. (Which he will do, as soon as his body gets more accustomed to the good effects of insulin doses.) But really ... if he were mine, I'd do 0.50 tonight for the dose. Because when you shoot more than it turns out he needs, you can't "un-shoot" that dose.;)
 
Last edited:
Robin&BB said:
He's probably bouncing some now, Dana. The important thing is to not over-correct for that bounce, meaning I STILL think you need to lower that dose next pre-shot time. He will bounce until ... he stops. :rolleyes: Is not at all uncommon.

You may have already told us this, but have you checked ketones today at all?
Click to expand...
No I have not. I will try he hasn't even gone yet as far as I know? Whats best way to test? I have the strips.
 
327 pmps. I only gave him .5 I'm getting ready to chk 1+ How is it that cats don't die all the time from the vets doing this????? This is the second time he's done this to me! I told him Hitchcocks sugar was 300 yesterday but of course when he got to the vet it was 500. He was stressed out. The vet said "This just shows you the difference between your glucometer and ours"!!!! I kept my mouth shut. How does he not realize its stress+infection that has the sugar so high????
 
He did eat a little and I gave him his liquid antibiotic. I don't know if it has sugar or not. Clavomax.
 
dana moore said:
I don't know if it has sugar or not. Clavomax.
Click to expand...
I don't know about it having sugar in it per se, but even if it does have some type of flavoring agent that contains it, the amount is probably minimal.
(Does Hitchcock have a urinary tract infection - is that why he's on the Clavamox?) Bat had to take that for a UTI, and once she was cleared of that infection her #s went down considerably!
dana moore said:
very strange his BG went up to 435????
Click to expand...
No, actually doesn't surprise me, after that steep drop earlier today. He's "on the trampoline." (Bouncy-bounce.:rolleyes:) And that rise at +1 is part food-spike, too. I'd recommend you check his numbers in the +3 to +5 range, just to see where he's heading tonight at this dose.
dana moore said:
How is it that cats don't die all the time from the vets doing this????? This is the second time he's done this to me! I told him Hitchcocks sugar was 300 yesterday but of course when he got to the vet it was 500. He was stressed out. The vet said "This just shows you the difference between your glucometer and ours"!!!! I kept my mouth shut. How does he not realize its stress+infection that has the sugar so high????
Click to expand...
Beats me, Dana. Ha, you probably know a LOT more about effectively treating a diabetic cat than your vet does ...;) (What you just experienced with the vet is something so many of us can relate to!:banghead:)
 
dana moore said:
395 2+ What happened?
Click to expand...
Well he was at 427 PMPS, then you got 435 @ +1, then 395 @ +2. He's already starting to come down a little.
dana moore said:
I gave him Sheba? hmmmmm. Next time I'll stick to Fancy Feast.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure exactly what the carb levels are on the Sheba pates ... all I know is that my cat is really carb-sensitive. If I feed her anything that's more than 3% carbs, I definitely see it in her #s later.:banghead: (She dropped into hypo-zone on me earlier today, at a dinky-dose of 0.05 unit - no kidding, that's not a typo - and I had to steer her twice with 5% carb. So I'm wondering how high her PMPS is going to be in about 20 minutes ...)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top