Cystitis? Rocky going to the vet's

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Marlena

Marlena

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Rocky's behaviour in the garden is unusual today.
He keeps going to different places and it looks like he is peeing but he is doing it differently: he does not dig and just squats for a very short time and doesn't scrape then licks himself under tail. He keeps repeating it.
Normally he would dig, then squat, spend a long time peeing and then scrape to cover what he's done.
I can not be sure that he actually produces any pee as he only goes to do it in the garden - absolutely refuses to use litter box.
We are going to the vet's in an hour, hopefully we get some answers.
We had some urine and blood tests done about 5 weeks ago and everything seemed ok apart from specific gravity test which showed that he does not concentrate his urine as well as he should.
Will let you know what vets diagnosed.
 
It does sound like cystitis, Marlena, or at least something easily treatable. Let us know what the vet says.
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Diana
 
Just returned - vet thinks it is cystitis and probably one off.
She gave him antibiotic injection and anti-inflammatory and anti-inflammatory capsules Cystophan.
In her opinion Rocky is doing very well.
Let's hope that that's it and in few days time Rocky will be fine.
Thank you Diana.
 
Was a urine sample taken and analysed? If so can you post the results?
Cystitis just means inflammation of the bladder, not what is causing it.
 
Marlena said:
Just returned - vet thinks it is cystitis and probably one off.
She gave him antibiotic injection and anti-inflammatory and anti-inflammatory capsules Cystophan.
In her opinion Rocky is doing very well.
Let's hope that that's it and in few days time Rocky will be fine.
Thank you Diana.
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That sounds good news, Marlena - I know how worrying it is when our kitties aren't quite right but let's hope, as you say, that Rocky will be fine very soon :-)

Diana
 
Larry and Kitties said:
Was a urine sample taken and analysed? If so can you post the results?
Cystitis just means inflammation of the bladder, not what is causing it.
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I know Larry but we could not have a sample as Rocky's bladder was empty and the vet insisted that we should try to treat with antibiotics first in order to help him as soon as possible.
If there is no improvement or if it comes back then we will go the other route. She said that in diabetic cat cystitis is very common.
Didn't have strength to fight.
I hope that the treatment he received will sort the problem out.
 
My diabetic Patches (female) had sterile, idiopathic cystitis That means inflammation of the bladder with no known cause (e.g., no infection). It seemed to be caused by stress. After few vet visits I just just gave subQ fluids and pain meds. I never had that problem with my other 15 or so diabetic cats.
 
My cat had a cystitis in December, due to the stress generated by the death of my dog.
My vet told me that it's really common for cats to have cystitis because of stress.
 
Shaak had Stress Cystitis when she was first diagnosed in February. We switched her to canned and gave her Clavamox antibiotic pills. I don't know about all antibiotic injections but do be careful there are a few that vets turn to quickly that are not very good for our sugarcats.
 
I went through this with Shadow about a year and a half ago with struvite crystals. Full blockage. 3 days at the vets. Cathiradized and flushed. That was a nice Christmas bill I tell you .
Wellness appeared to be the culprit from what I can tell.

Also be careful over doing the antibiotics. They are generally broad spectrum and go after everything.
You may want to look at adding probiotics to Rocky's diet.

I know you said it was stress related. But just in case.
I had to put Shadow on Hills c/d to keep him at the proper pH. However the carb count was off the charts. 33 I believe. Luckily Shadow is not diabetic.
I am now using Purina Pro Plan Focus Urinary Track Support. Chicken Entre'. If I recall correctly it is about half the carbs of the Hills. They have a pate' that is slightly lower in carbs.
I am pretty sure he is past it. There have been no repeats. However I give him part of a can every day just to be safe. I grind raw for the rest of his diet.

In all the tests Shadow came up negative for bacteria. It may have been a biolayer in his bladder which requires very specific tests to detect.
D-Mannose is a safe supplement that draws out the bacteria in a bio layer and causes it to pass out of the system.
Also be wary of using cranberry with cats. It is not good them. If you use Vitimin C do not use ascorbic acid. Look into sodium ascorbate, calcium ascorbate or “Ester C”.
Adding Curcumin 95 to the food, which is an extract of turmeric is good for inflammation and safe for felines.

This is good group. It was recommended to me by members here.
Tanya's Feline Chronic Kidney Disease Support Group http://www.felinecrf.org/
They have lots of information.
I was buying products to try to control the pH, inflammation and stress. It was pointed out to me quite strongly that many of the products I was purchasing were actually counter productive. To many ingredients doing to many things.
 
Sev,
thank you very much.
I'm not sure if Rocky's problem was stress related.
I think there is an underlying problem for sometime but tests do not reveal much and the vet insist that diabetic cat will have episodes of cystitis more often due to glucose in urine and it is most likely bacterial hence the antibiotics. If I was more inclined to think that it was stress related I wouldn't agree to antibiotics. He was given Convinia. I know about bad rep surrounding this antibiotic, Rocky had it already a few times in the past and we had no side effects but I'm still not happy about using it. I wasn't quite myself when I took Rocky to the vet's on Friday and also it was weekend so I was worried about not giving him treatment straight away.
 
I would def get him on probiotics as soon as possible. Having the good bacteria in the digestive track is very important.
Unfortunately, I have been unable to locate my notes and my threads are gone because the group migrated to Tanya's site.
There are an entire host of herbals you can use to target specific things such as inflammation, bladder spasms, pH etc.
Also. Have you looked for a holistic vet in your area? I got lucky and found one that was trained in Chinese medicine. Unfortunately, she moved. However, the experience was very good. The conversations were much more informative and forthcoming as well.
The are a lot of beneficial things you can do with herbs and supplements as long as the information you are receiving is accurate. Which really goes without saying when you consider all the great information provided by this community. :)
 
My vet has given kitty glucosamine supplements for one of my boys with bladder problems, it is a capsule with the powder added to his food, brand name Yurelieve. It is a natural anti-inflammatory.
 
Thank you everybody,
I'm passionate about supplements and I use them a lot but feel a bit nervous to use anything on a diabetic cat.
Rocky eats homemade raw diet and he gets fish oils, turmeric extract, Evening primrose oil (EVO), Cystophan, digestive enzymes and probiotics. He gets his supplements on and off. I have just introduced Willard water. I know about D-Mannose, will look into it.
At the moment he seems to be fine, it looks like the problem is sorted but I'm vigilant.
:bighug::)
 
I give Colin Dmannose. It does not raise his BG, and since started, he has not had any more UTIs. Before I started it he was prone to them. I use the Now brand powder and give him 1/8 tsp/day
 
D-mannose helped Saoirse when she developed a stress-induced UTI during her hospital stay earlier this year. It did not have an adverse effect on her BG levels. See this thread for more info on d-mannose:

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...urinary-health-cat-foods.146240/#post-1519232

I've no idea whether or not e. coli was the problem in Saoirse's case but the acute dose of d-mannose led to improvements in her within 24 hours. I hope Rocky feels better very soon.

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Thank you Sharon and Mogs,
I will try that.
At the moment Rocky is doing well.
He's just dropped to 3.5 unexpectedly (no symptoms, behaving normal) but, as I'm monitoring him, he is safe.
:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Sharon14 said:
I give Colin Dmannose. It does not raise his BG, and since started, he has not had any more UTIs. Before I started it he was prone to them. I use the Now brand powder and give him 1/8 tsp/day
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I give Squeak d-mannose as well - same brand and dose as Sharon mentioned. She had a UTI back in January that was treated, but recurred the next month. I wasn't sure if it was going to become a trend, so I started the d-mannose as a precaution. I'm not sure if it's preventing her from getting another UTI (though she hasn't had another since I started giving it, anti-jinx), but it isn't harmful to give it to her, so I plan on continuing. It's probably worth noting that her UTI was caused by e.coli, which is what d-mannose is effective against.
 
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