Need help ! Fritz is at 60 on the AlphaTrak2

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I just tested him and he's at 60 I gave him 2 teaspoons of LC Fancy Feast Chicken.
Is that enough carbs? next I test him in 15 minutes right?
He's on Prozinc 4 units twice a day.
 
Deb, there's still possibly a few hours to go until the peak of the cycle.
Are you going to be around to monitor and feed as necessary to keep the blood glucose up?
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:nailbiting::cat: Fritz did great no symptom, just this crazy lady running around I just keep testing him till I get three readings above what number? I forgot
 
DebG said:
I just keep testing him till I get three readings above what number? I forgot
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Ah, have you done this before...? ;)

Ideally, you want to know that you are past the peak (lowest number) of the cycle, and that the blood glucose is definitely rising. As a rule of thumb it's good to see three rising numbers in succession.
Be aware that if the Prozinc dose is too high the blood glucose may continue dropping late into the cycle (past the usual peak....)

Do you have any food available apart from the low carb? Do you have any higher carb food available if you need it?
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I have not one this before, I do have Karo and I have FF Turkey gravy lovers on hand and Temptations salmon flavor treats are they high enough in carbs?
 
DebG said:
I do have Karo and I have FF Turkey gravy lovers on hand and Temptations salmon flavor treats are they high enough in carbs?
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The gravy lovers (gravy only) and the karo are fine if the low carb looks like it isn't going to do the trick.

But don't give the Temptations as the carbs from those will probably stay in the system for longer and elevate the numbers unnecessarily later on...
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More info on the carbs in foods...
Karo/syrup raises the blood glucose really fast, but is also out of the system relatively quickly.
The gravy may take a tad longer to work but may stay in the system a bit longer.

If you need to raise blood glucose fast, then use karo.
If the numbers are very low then you can put karo directly onto the gums. If your kitty won't tolerate that then you can put the karo in a little gravy.

The low carb food raised the numbers earlier but it may not continue to do so as the effect of the insulin becomes stronger.
 
K I'll keep an eye on him. I just tested #95 +4.25 Thank you for being here to help me. I don't want to do the wrong thing. I have done a ton of reading on this forum. I actually absorb it all like a sponge.
I'll thro away the treats I only bought them as a back up in case I couldn't get him to eat any of the gravy if I over feed him early on the hypo. Great advice!!!;)
 
Deb, do you have the Hypo document printed out?
If not then you can read it here:
How to treat HYPOS - THEY CAN KILL! Print this Out!!

The info in this document is based on numbers from a human glucose meter. The Alphatrak usually reads a bit higher than human meters. So, you wouldn't wait until the numbers are as low as the numbers in the document before you take action. For the time being, it might be helpful to add 18 points (1mmol) to the numbers in the Hypo document (though this may not be accurate...).
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DebG said:
I'll thro away the treats
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Or you could put them in the freezer...
There have been instances when a cat was in low numbers but the caregiver wasn't going to be around to monitor/feed later on. In those instances it was helpful to be able to give the cat a longer-lasting source of carbs...
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Yes I have it in front of me. Thank you for reminding me. K I see were not out of danger yet, I get what you mentioned about the insulin peaking later 6-8 hours and he could still drop again.
This is a dance I really don't like, but I'm it till the last dance. I remember Sue saying 68 on the AlphaTrak 2 thats why I quickly reached out for help.
Thanks a bunch for all your help!!!!:bighug::cat:
 
Thank heavens I don't have to work out side the home. We have our own roofing business that I can go help out with. Since Fritz has been DX I have not left him alone except to sleep and he is in the next room (we live full time in our coach). He is #1 concern so I'm here 24 7.
I hope the LC continues to carry him through the day. Should I wait now and check him in an hour?
 
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I see were not out of danger yet, I get what you mentioned about the insulin peaking later 6-8 hours and he could still drop again.
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And the peak may be later if the dose is too high....

That 95 is very nice. And if he drops a smidge lower that's OK too. But we don't really want him dropping lower than that.

I'd suggest testing at half hour intervals at this point....
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Thanks For stopping in Bertie. I am on my way out and was looking for someone to tag

I believe that 60 was at +3.5. The nadir seems to be between +6-+8 best I can see.

Deb you are in good hands with Bertie
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Thank you Mary Ann little update Fritz #'s are rising....:cat:
 
Deb, I'm just going to tend to my kitties. Will be back soon to check on you. :bighug:

(And have posted link to this thread in the Prozinc forum to see if someone can help with dosing advice.)
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Glad you've got him steering in the right direction :) I've done this dance once, and know how scarey it is Deb, your in good hands with Elizabeth :bighug: I'm here for moral support, but dont have the experience to advise
 
Sarah thank you:) I feel so much better knowing his numbers are rising. Just tested him and he's 140 now I don't want them to rise too high. What a day
 
He may still come down a little, hes just now getting into the nadir timeframe, and looking at his SS it seems like he hits his low at +7. So he may not wind up with too bad numbers later :)
 
Deb, if Fritz has only had a bit of low carb food then it may well be that he's headed for a 'bounce' now (since there aren't other carbs in the system to account for the rising numbers).
But if you see a higher-than-expected number at the next preshot don't let that fool you into thinking that a dose reduction isn't necessary. The bounce (if it happens) will be temporary....
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I haven't given him any food since +3.75 it's now +5.5 he's meowing at me better check him
 
Ok he's coming back down he's at 105 down from 140 should I give him a teaspoon of LC?
 
My Fritz is always full of surprises:nailbiting::woot: yes +5.5 I gave him a teaspoon of LC he's sleeping now. Should I test again at +6 ? or +6.5?
Do you know if the U40 3/10cc 1/2" 29g are the same as the U40 1/2cc 1/2" 29g be the same? I switched to the 3/10cc this morning
 

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Wow! is this what you have to go thru to get them into remission? I am so proud of Fritz he is doing great sleeping now as I stay close to monitor.
I think I'll test him at +6 he's showing no signs to make me rush in and test. :)
 
DebG said:
+6 178 hopefully he won't bounce......
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He may do. That's a bit of a jump up. Let's wait and see....

Well done for today, Deb. Low numbers can be very scary. But you handled it so well. :bighug:

My own cat had low numbers this morning (I'd planned to go out for the day but Bertie decided otherwise... Drat!). And even after 9 years of this it can still get my adrenaline going if I catch him in low numbers... :rolleyes:

Eliz
 
Yikes! Thank you all couldn't have done it with out you!!!!:bighug::bighug::bighug: to you all.....
Hope your adorable kitty is rising just enough for safety. I appreciate you taking time to help me everyone of YOU!!!
 
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