3/5 gato , +11.5 218, AMPS 218 , +5 46 +6 31 +15 min 70 +1 AT 139, PMPS 358, +5 284

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She's over 150....go ahead and feed/shoot the 1U

She never went "too low" last night....she was never "not safe".....the point where we want to "take action" is when they drop below 50

Now I won't be here after this, but if you're concerned at any time, add the 911 prefix to your subject line and someone will help you as soon as possible
 
Chris & China said:
She's over 150....go ahead and feed/shoot the 1U

She never went "too low" last night....she was never "not safe".....the point where we want to "take action" is when they drop below 50

Now I won't be here after this, but if you're concerned at any time, add the 911 prefix to your subject line and someone will help you as soon as possible
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how do I write 30 min? + .30?
 
if she was 233 immediately before you fed/shot, that's her AMPS number

The Pre-shot number is always the number you actually shoot

If you tested 30 minutes before her "normal" time, that test is the PMPS +11.5
 
Hi Lisa I am popping in and out, having tech problems.

Last nights cycle was great. You did a great job and as Chris says she wasn't too low at any point, though I understand your nerves I freaked too when I saw my first blue after nearly a month of starting on insulin.
If you get a +1 or +2 it may help give you an idea what is going to happen in this cycle, get that number and post it when you get it, if I am not abou someone else will. If the +1 or +2 is flat or dropping it might suggest that Gato (love the name) is going to have an active cycle.
We usually don't need to feed High Carb unless we see numbers below 50 OK, but giving a little of gatos regular food can help slow gato down.
Equally don't be surprised if you see numbers go up he may react to ast night lovely run by bouncing for a bit.
:):):)
:cat::cat::cat:
Gill
 
Gill & George said:
Hi Lisa I am popping in and out, having tech problems.

Last nights cycle was great. You did a great job and as Chris says she wasn't too low at any point, though I understand your nerves I freaked too when I saw my first blue after nearly a month of starting on insulin.
If you get a +1 or +2 it may help give you an idea what is going to happen in this cycle, get that number and post it when you get it, if I am not abou someone else will. If the +1 or +2 is flat or dropping it might suggest that Gato (love the name) is going to have an active cycle.
We usually don't need to feed High Carb unless we see numbers below 50 OK, but giving a little of gatos regular food can help slow gato down.
Equally don't be surprised if you see numbers go up he may react to ast night lovely run by bouncing for a bit.
:):):)
:cat::cat::cat:
Gill
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ok thank you, her name is gato (spanish for cat) after a soccer player I liked, his nickname was el gato. I am going to do another test in like 2 hours chris was telling me I should do a midday test like a +5, I feed her like 4 times a day
 
Welcome! I don't think I've posted in your condo before.

To link your condos (aka threads):
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  • Open your new condo
  • Click on the button that looks like a paperclip/link at the top of the text box
  • This will open a dialogue box and paste the link in the box
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If you want to name the link (e.g., Yesterday's Condo or whatever you want to call it), type out the name, highlight it, then click on the icon for the link and follow the directions above. That will create a "clickable" link. (I usually bold the text as well so it's clearly visible.)

It looks like you had a busy night! You did great with steering Gato's numbers. You may want to take a look (and maybe print out) the information in the Shooting & Handling Low Numbers sticky.

You may also want to look over the stickies on the Tight Regulation Protocol and the Start Low Go Slow approach. These are the two methods for dosing that we use. It's also important to get some tests in addition to your pre-shot tests -- much like you did last night. Lantus dosing is based on the nadir (the lowest point in the cycle). Those spot checks are also important so you can determine when onset and nadir occur and how much duration your getting. While nadir "should" be mid-cycle, that's not always the case. My kitty's nadir was early -- usually at +3 or +4 -- so it's important to know what is typical for your cat.

 
any advice on my cats low number? she is acting fine, called the vet and they didn't seem worried as long as she is acting normal, in which she is.

I was wondering where the spreadsheets are located again, and I was wondering what is the difference in numbers between an alphatrak and a region
is the numbers different on the animal meter spread sheet?
 
Hi what food have you given her?
You should check again now, and you need to take action to stop her dropping lower.
Give her some high carb food, gravy lovers for example or give her her regular low carb food with a drop of karo/syrup if you haven't got any High Carb
 
If you're using an AT meter, there's a different spreadsheet template. The difference between the meters is that the AT is calibrated a bit differently (different technology for the strips). As a result, with an AT, a dose reduction is given when numbers drop below 68. On a human meter, below 50 is where a dose reduction is earned. Beyond that, the meters are pretty comparable.
 
Gill & George said:
Hi what food have you given her?
You should check again now, and you need to take action to stop her dropping lower.
Give her some high carb food, gravy lovers for example or give her her regular low carb food with a drop of karo/syrup if you haven't got any High Carb
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talked with the vet office and I fed her normal meal at this time, and then they called back and had me put a bit of honey on her gum, waiting for vet to call me back about 30 min, watching her, she seems fine, she is sleeping now
 
Sienne and Gabby (GA) said:
If you're using an AT meter, there's a different spreadsheet template. The difference between the meters is that the AT is calibrated a bit differently (different technology for the strips). As a result, with an AT, a dose reduction is given when numbers drop below 68. On a human meter, below 50 is where a dose reduction is earned. Beyond that, the meters are pretty comparable.
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where can I find the links to both the spreadsheets, I can't find them again

I am using the relion
 
Lisa and Gato said:
talked with the vet office and I fed her normal meal at this time, and then they called back and had me put a bit of honey on her gum, waiting for vet to call me back about 30 min, watching her, she seems fine, she is sleeping now
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please test her again now, to make sure she is coming up. you may need to prop her up with more honey. waiting 1 hour since the last meal is too long. We want to make sure she is safe.
Are you using the relion or the alphatrak at the moment
 
These are the recommendations from the TR protocol on how to keep your kitty safe if numbers drop below 50

If your cat is testing in low numbers and you are not getting a quick response to your post, there are several things you need to do. (Low numbers are under 50mg/dL or 2.8 mmol/L.)
  • Depending on how carbohydrate sensitive your cat is, feed approximately a teaspoon or less of gravy from high carb food or high carb food only. (If you have a cat with GI issues, using a couple of drops of syrup plus low carb food is an alternative.)
  • Test again in 15 – 20 min. Depending on the numbers, give more HC food.
  • Repeat the above steps every 15 – 20 min. until your cat tests in the 50 mg/dL (2.8 mmol/L) or above range for 2 consecutive tests. Continue to feed in small amounts to keep numbers in a safe range.
  • Test in 30 - 40 min. and repeat the test and feed process until there are 2 consecutive tests where numbers are stable or rising.
  • Test in an hour and follow the same steps.
 
give her some more honey or syrup , along with some food and test in 15 min, put a 911 on your thread title

How far is your vet?
 
Gill & George said:
These are the recommendations from the TR protocol on how to keep your kitty safe if numbers drop below 50

If your cat is testing in low numbers and you are not getting a quick response to your post, there are several things you need to do. (Low numbers are under 50mg/dL or 2.8 mmol/L.)
  • Depending on how carbohydrate sensitive your cat is, feed approximately a teaspoon or less of gravy from high carb food or high carb food only. (If you have a cat with GI issues, using a couple of drops of syrup plus low carb food is an alternative.)
  • Test again in 15 – 20 min. Depending on the numbers, give more HC food.
  • Repeat the above steps every 15 – 20 min. until your cat tests in the 50 mg/dL (2.8 mmol/L) or above range for 2 consecutive tests. Continue to feed in small amounts to keep numbers in a safe range.
  • Test in 30 - 40 min. and repeat the test and feed process until there are 2 consecutive tests where numbers are stable or rising.
  • Test in an hour and follow the same steps.
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if I gave her honey should I still wait or give her food with gravy now, she is sleeping, not acting funny but it is worrying me it isn't going up
 
Lisa and Gato said:
if I gave her honey should I still wait or give her food with gravy now, she is sleeping, not acting funny but it is worrying me it isn't going up
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give her some food with gravy too, is it the fancy feast gravy too the honey can in some cats wear off quite quick
 
give her the gravy and when she is finished you can go to the vets, if they are that close, if it's been more than 15 min since your last test test again to see if she is coming up and still dropping
 
When was the
Last time u tested, if it is !ore than 15 min, test again.
If she hasn't come up go to the vets

At this point until she is over 50 you need to be test ing and feeding every 15min until you see her numbers rise
 
should I test
Gill & George said:
These are the recommendations from the TR protocol on how to keep your kitty safe if numbers drop below 50

If your cat is testing in low numbers and you are not getting a quick response to your post, there are several things you need to do. (Low numbers are under 50mg/dL or 2.8 mmol/L.)
  • Depending on how carbohydrate sensitive your cat is, feed approximately a teaspoon or less of gravy from high carb food or high carb food only. (If you have a cat with GI issues, using a couple of drops of syrup plus low carb food is an alternative.)
  • Test again in 15 – 20 min. Depending on the numbers, give more HC food.
  • Repeat the above steps every 15 – 20 min. until your cat tests in the 50 mg/dL (2.8 mmol/L) or above range for 2 consecutive tests. Continue to feed in small amounts to keep numbers in a safe range.
  • Test in 30 - 40 min. and repeat the test and feed process until there are 2 consecutive tests where numbers are stable or rising.
  • Test in an hour and follow the same steps.
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should I test her 15 min after I give her the food or 15 after she finishes eating it?
 
Yes you should! Like I said in previous post
Testing every 15 min until her numbers are rising
If she's below 40 then feed gravy or syrup or both, at this point you need to get her numbers up.
 
You will need to test her again in 15 minutes to make sure that her numbers are staying up. They will go up rapidly because of the honey and gravy. You need to make sure they stay going up.
 
OK that's good:):) that's safe territory

Now don't feed her, then test again in 15 30min, sometimes they can drop again when the food wears off.

We cannot get complacent yet, we have to be sure that she is going to stay up of her own accord without food.
 
Gill & George said:
OK that's good:):) that's safe territory

Now don't feed her, then test again in 15 30min, sometimes they can drop again when the food wears off.

We cannot get complacent yet, we have to be sure that she is going to stay up of her own accord without food.
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ok I will test her again, still waiting on vet to call me
 
OK Lisa now that you have a moment, when you see a number below 50 like you did, its best to give some HC food there and then, or even just a couple of TSP of the hc gravy. At that point you need to stop them if possible sliding further, it can be harder tu pull their numbers up if they drop lower.

By the way gato has earned a reduction, so if you are thinking that you will follow the tight regulation protocol, you would drop her dose to 0.75.

Have you decided if you are going to follow TR?
 
Lisa, you can add multiple readings to the same cell on the spreadsheet, just separate them by a space or enter. For example, if you take multiple readings in the +4 hour, it would be 4.25 - 31, 4.50 - 70, etc.
 
Lisa, our primary focus is getting Gato's numbers up and keeping them up.
Spreadsheets, protocols, and all the other junk can wait. :)
 
Jill & Alex (GA) said:
Lisa, our primary focus is getting Gato's numbers up and keeping them up.
Spreadsheets, protocols, and all the other junk can wait. :)
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I just spoke with the vet, she doesn't trust these numbers because it is from the relion meter, I am going to bring her in just for a check
she also told me to not trust what I read on the internet
 
Lisa and Gato said:
I just spoke with the vet, she doesn't trust these numbers because it is from the relion meter, I am going to bring her in just for a check
she also told me to not trust what I read on the internet
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The numbers from a ReliOn meter (any human meter) will usually read lower than that of a pet meter or lab.
Bringing her in to have her checked won't hurt and will probably offer you some peace of mind.
 
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