is Fancy Feast truly OK?

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I was told at my vet that if I can't afford the Hills Prescription Diet w/d anymore (which I can't) that it would be ok to substitute with Fancy Feast as long as it's ONLY the 'Classic' cans.

is this true? i've had to go that route and I want to make sure. thankfully wilbur likes any flavor of it (though he's having an issue today). so keeping him on it, and his sister off has been working ok.

would just like some reassurance that it's ok

but more than that, does anyone else have the problem where the cat doesn't actually EAT the food? Wilbur just licks most of the juice off. he does eat some, but i'd say less than 10% which means he goes through a LOT of cans in one day
 
Many of us feed Fancy Feast Classics and it works well. In fact, it is better than many of the prescription diets.
It's actually a good choice for all cats, diabetic or not. I feed it to both my sugarcat and my non-diabetic.
You can read more about diets here http://www.catinfo.org/ if you're interested.

If Wilbur prefers the liquid, maybe try mixing water in to create more of a soup? Some cats prefer it that way.
Also, once you know how much he eats, just portion out that much. I never give more than 1/4 can at a time. The rest goes into the fridge until the next meal (usually about 6/day for us). Then a can will last much longer and you'll have less waste. You can put it in a plastic bag, or get one of the little plastic covers that fit right onto the can.
 
I don't have this issue but he might be one of those cats that you will need to warm it up if you take it leftover from the fridge.

Someone will have to double check but Nutro makes a food in small cans that is minced. I'm pretty sure it's low carb. It's a great food for the "lickers". I've used it on 2 of mine and works very well. I also sprinkle a little bit of freeze dried chicken on it.
 
ooh i didn't know they made covers for these tiny cans.

i have thought about mixing with water. actually considered blending it. to make it super soupy. these are fantastic ideas and you have really made me feel better about using this food.

I have to tell you, I'm almost in tears I'm so relieved to find this forum. i've been strugglign to find people that understand how much care this takes. i feel like I've found a great spot.
 
JenniferF said:
I don't have this issue but he might be one of those cats that you will need to warm it up if you take it leftover from the fridge.

Someone will have to double check but Nutro makes a food in small cans that is minced. I'm pretty sure it's low carb. It's a great food for the "lickers". I've used it on 2 of mine and works very well. I also sprinkle a little bit of freeze dried chicken on it.
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part of the problem with wilbur is access me thinks. His seizures got quite bad before we diagnosed them. the damned v et kept telling me it was from sugar and I kept tellilng her that's not right. i finally had to PROVE it to her. i knew it wasn't BSL because even after giving him insulin 3 hours later he had a seizure then 10 hours later another. that finally convinced her it was not diabetes. thank god he doesn't have them now. but point being, during two of his bad ones, be broke off both upper canines so he's not very good at getting food into his mouth

also, warming in the microwave might be a good idea
 
that is SO hilarious. in billions of websites on the web, i was reading that exact page when you linked it :) thank you SO much

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Welcome John and extra sweet Wilbur! We're all glad you found us too! Yep, everyone here 'gets it'....

This is going to sound wierd but there's a possibility that Wilbur doesn't know HOW to eat wet food. With dry food, they lick it - the roughness of their tongue flicks it into the middle to back of their mouth and they chew or swallow. When they lick the wet food, they just get mostly liquid and a few grains. After a while, they decide it's too much trouble, it must not really be 'food' and quit. Making soup will help him get more but he needs to learn to take actual bites. Try boiling some chicken and breaking it into small pieces. If possible, hand him pieces so he'll use his mouth to take them from you....if not, put it on a saucer in a pile. He'll likely still try to lick it but maybe, just maybe, he'll actually take a bite. When that happens, the look is priceless!!!

Again, WELCOME to the best place you never wanted to be....
 
Squeaky and KT said:
Welcome John and extra sweet Wilbur! We're all glad you found us too! Yep, everyone here 'gets it'....

This is going to sound wierd but there's a possibility that Wilbur doesn't know HOW to eat wet food. With dry food, they lick it - the roughness of their tongue flicks it into the middle to back of their mouth and they chew or swallow. When they lick the wet food, they just get mostly liquid and a few grains. After a while, they decide it's too much trouble, it must not really be 'food' and quit. Making soup will help him get more but he needs to learn to take actual bites. Try boiling some chicken and breaking it into small pieces. If possible, hand him pieces so he'll use his mouth to take them from you....if not, put it on a saucer in a pile. He'll likely still try to lick it but maybe, just maybe, he'll actually take a bite. When that happens, the look is priceless!!!

Again, WELCOME to the best place you never wanted to be....
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lol. that sounds cute.

he does actually take bites. but very few of them. i see him get chunks. but he mostly licks. I'm going to say 90% of his consumption is licked. now we know cats have very rough tongues with almost velcro on them. so it does pull some up, but he just won't eat the chunks. but i'm goignt o try mixing in water and making a soup. if it works great! Think I should use warm or cold water?
 
johnt said:
lol. that sounds cute.

he does actually take bites. but very few of them. i see him get chunks. but he mostly licks. I'm going to say 90% of his consumption is licked. now we know cats have very rough tongues with almost velcro on them. so it does pull some up, but he just won't eat the chunks. but i'm goignt o try mixing in water and making a soup. if it works great! Think I should use warm or cold water?
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Warm food seems to be the preferred choice for most of mine but I have a couple of them that wait for it to cool....all up to the individual cat. :) Great that he's already working on eating the wet food!
 
Food from Wervua might be a good option as well. The nine liver chicken looks more like it came out of a tuna can.
 
Oh that's interesting, maybe having a texture like that he'd eat more. i'll have to look it up
 
johnt said:
I'm almost in tears I'm so relieved to find this forum. i've been strugglign to find people that understand how much care this takes.
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We really do understand, John, and I'm very glad you found FDMB.

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johnt said:
I was told at my vet that if I can't afford the Hills Prescription Diet w/d anymore (which I can't) that it would be ok to substitute with Fancy Feast as long as it's ONLY the 'Classic' cans.
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Just picked up on this point, John, and it's very important.

Are you still feeding Wilbur some of the w/d food? If yes, then please continue to feed w/d for the time being until you can sort out testing Wilbur's blood glucose.

There is a HUGE difference between the amount of carbohydrates in w/d and Fancy Feast Classics. The w/d is very high in carbs and the FF is very low in carbs. There is a strong likelihood that Wilbur's insulin dose may need to be reduced as you switch from one to the other. Abruptly switching increases risk of hypo.

I'd suggest concentrating on desensitizing Wilbur to home testing (either on ears or paw pads). Once you get that sorted (and fingers & paws crossed that you will!) you would then be able to safely transition Wilbur to the lower carb FF Classics and you'll be able to adjust insulin dosage as needed through the transition. If you can't manage to home test him, then perhaps your vet might be able to suggest something about monitoring or dose adjustment to accommodate the transition.

Here are some links that might be helpful with the testing side of things:

Home testing tips and links

Testing and injecting tips (Very helpful ear diagram in this one.)

And here are some more :bighug::bighug::bighug:.


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Ferndoc said:
Food from Wervua might be a good option as well. The nine liver chicken looks more like it came out of a tuna can.
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My little guy is an undeniable meat junkie, but he prefers pates. He leaves any and all chunks in the dish as rejects. He really enjoys the rabbit flavor made by Wild Calling. It is a very nice pate with a smooth texture, says Radar. I've found that the Weruva flavors he really likes are Splash Dance and Fowl Ball. Over time he has adjusted to Paw Licken Chicken with a more shredded chicken type consistency. I add warm water to the food to make it more like a thick soup which makes it easy to eat or lick up as the case may be... :cat::) I really like the transparent information that Weruva provides about what is and is not in their food.

We are so glad you found us on FDMB. Breathe and know that we all remember how overwhelming FD can be at the beginning. We are ready to be helpful and encouraging as you move forward with taking care of your sugarcat. Please let us know what questions you have and we'll do our best to give you tips from our experience.
 
Critter Mom said:
We really do understand, John, and I'm very glad you found FDMB.

:bighug::bighug::bighug:


Just picked up on this point, John, and it's very important.

Are you still feeding Wilbur some of the w/d food? If yes, then please continue to feed w/d for the time being until you can sort out testing Wilbur's blood glucose.

There is a HUGE difference between the amount of carbohydrates in w/d and Fancy Feast Classics. The w/d is very high in carbs and the FF is very low in carbs. There is a strong likelihood that Wilbur's insulin dose may need to be reduced as you switch from one to the other. Abruptly switching increases risk of hypo.

I'd suggest concentrating on desensitizing Wilbur to home testing (either on ears or paw pads). Once you get that sorted (and fingers & paws crossed that you will!) you would then be able to safely transition Wilbur to the lower carb FF Classics and you'll be able to adjust insulin dosage as needed through the transition. If you can't manage to home test him, then perhaps your vet might be able to suggest something about monitoring or dose adjustment to accommodate the transition.

Here are some links that might be helpful with the testing side of things:

Home testing tips and links

Testing and injecting tips (Very helpful ear diagram in this one.)

And here are some more :bighug::bighug::bighug:.


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Hrm i didn't get a notice of reply.

No i changed him over to FF 5 months ago. i haven't made any changes since then. he did finally eat and got a shot, although i reduced it 1u because he's not eaating as normal. tonight i will hoppefully get another chance to give him his pm dose. but at 8am i will be dropping him off for a curve.

once i get him back i'll start trying to get him to test here. it's just not a smooth thing with him, he does NOT like feet or ears being touched, ever.
 
Jan Radar said:
My little guy is an undeniable meat junkie, but he prefers pates. He leaves any and all chunks in the dish as rejects. He really enjoys the rabbit flavor made by Wild Calling. It is a very nice pate with a smooth texture, says Radar. I've found that the Weruva flavors he really likes are Splash Dance and Fowl Ball. Over time he has adjusted to Paw Licken Chicken with a more shredded chicken type consistency. I add warm water to the food to make it more like a thick soup which makes it easy to eat or lick up as the case may be... :cat::) I really like the transparent information that Weruva provides about what is and is not in their food.

We are so glad you found us on FDMB. Breathe and know that we all remember how overwhelming FD can be at the beginning. We are ready to be helpful and encouraging as you move forward with taking care of your sugarcat. Please let us know what questions you have and we'll do our best to give you tips from our experience.
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yeah I'm glad i found 'here' too.

I tried the soupy FF but so far he doesn't care for it. he took one lick and moved over. i had two bowls out. one with his normal method and one with the soup. he didn't seem to like it. but maybe i'll try again. once i get him healthy again. i could easily be exagerating this. but wilbur is my clinger. i work from home and he's with me 24/7. he sleeps between my legs at night and I have a cat bed next to my monitor and i built a shelf on the other side in the window. so he's NEVER more than 4 feet from me.

Long story with him. Someday i'll post the heartwrenching story of Pickle. my stray. I do foster work and donate time to a local recue group here. I can't do the fostering at the moment until we move back to phx in april but i normally take in pregnant moms let them give birth, raise the babies includiong all shots for 10 weeks, then vet the new prospective owners and adopt them all out. it's INCREDIBLY rewarding. that's how i ended up with wilbur and tinker. Pickle was a stray i cared for and I'm amazed she's alive.

Tinker on her heated bed:
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Wilbur making sure I don't work too hard
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Wilbur and Tinker in 2008
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and here's Pickle in the heated enclosure i built here. Insulated witha remote thermometer and a wireless cam so i could keep an eye on her (she's our latest adoption)
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Brilliant photos, John! :)

johnt said:
No i changed him over to FF 5 months ago.
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Phew! That's good to know. :)

Hrm i didn't get a notice of reply.
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johnt said:
yeah I'm glad i found 'here' too.

I tried the soupy FF but so far he doesn't care for it. he took one lick and moved over. i had two bowls out. one with his normal method and one with the soup. he didn't seem to like it. but maybe i'll try again. once i get him healthy again. i could easily be exagerating this. but wilbur is my clinger. i work from home and he's with me 24/7. he sleeps between my legs at night and I have a cat bed next to my monitor and i built a shelf on the other side in the window. so he's NEVER more than 4 feet from me.

Long story with him. Someday i'll post the heartwrenching story of Pickle. my stray. I do foster work and donate time to a local recue group here. I can't do the fostering at the moment until we move back to phx in april but i normally take in pregnant moms let them give birth, raise the babies includiong all shots for 10 weeks, then vet the new prospective owners and adopt them all out. it's INCREDIBLY rewarding. that's how i ended up with wilbur and tinker. Pickle was a stray i cared for and I'm amazed she's alive.

Tinker on her heated bed:
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Wilbur making sure I don't work too hard
7aqU2bq.jpg


Wilbur and Tinker in 2008
KekVsE1.jpg


and here's Pickle in the heated enclosure i built here. Insulated witha remote thermometer and a wireless cam so i could keep an eye on her (she's our latest adoption)
qDAWL.jpg
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SOOOO cute!!
I have very fussy cats... sometimes they like it sometimes they don't !!
I have more food than a pet store and we often go thru several kinds before finding a food they like (and sometimes they just wait til I leave)
I just wanted to add my 2 cents as I was reading what you said regarding your vet.... I don't know if your still vaccinating but if you are please do some homework on over vaccinating especially when already having seizures. Some DVMs believe there is a direct link to vaccines and seizures or if they are pre disposed it can push them over to having them. Besides your cat should have a waiver due to the FD-as well as a seizure disorder.
my 2 cents... Welcome to the forum...:)
 
Critter Mom said:
Brilliant photos, John! :)


Phew! That's good to know. :)


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yep i'm very familiar with Xenforo, it's written by the authors of vBulletin. I use it on a very large mixed martial arts forum. but for some reason it stopped sending me notices.

one thing. if you get a single reply you get a notice. but if you get additional replies before coming back to visit the thread it wont send notices again. it's too keep from filling up with repeats and it works great. but i don't think that's whast happened.

no worries, I bookmarked the forum, i'll be visiting here a lot :) so helpful
 
jayla said:
SOOOO cute!!
I have very fussy cats... sometimes they like it sometimes they don't !!
I have more food than a pet store and we often go thru several kinds before finding a food they like (and sometimes they just wait til I leave)
I just wanted to add my 2 cents as I was reading what you said regarding your vet.... I don't know if your still vaccinating but if you are please do some homework on over vaccinating especially when already having seizures. Some DVMs believe there is a direct link to vaccines and seizures or if they are pre disposed it can push them over to having them. Besides your cat should have a waiver due to the FD-as well as a seizure disorder.
my 2 cents... Welcome to the forum...:)
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thank you. nope no new vaccinations. but i didn't know this so it's good info
 
jayla said:
SOOOO cute!!
I have very fussy cats... sometimes they like it sometimes they don't !!
I have more food than a pet store and we often go thru several kinds before finding a food they like (and sometimes they just wait til I leave)
I just wanted to add my 2 cents as I was reading what you said regarding your vet.... I don't know if your still vaccinating but if you are please do some homework on over vaccinating especially when already having seizures. Some DVMs believe there is a direct link to vaccines and seizures or if they are pre disposed it can push them over to having them. Besides your cat should have a waiver due to the FD-as well as a seizure disorder.
my 2 cents... Welcome to the forum...:)
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i have a question about this response.

what do you mean a waiver? for what? i'm not sure what that is
 
johnt said:
i have a question about this response.

what do you mean a waiver? for what? i'm not sure what that is
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a legal note from your vet that does not require you to get the rabies vaccine (or whatever your state requires by law, in Illinois it is just rabies)
a medical exemption ..it says right on the box "for healthy animals only" ...
If your vet doesn't bring the subject up I wouldn't either ;)
 
johnt said:
what do you mean a waiver? for what? i'm not sure what that is
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Many localities require pets (including cats) to show evidence of a rabies vaccine.
There is controversy over whether a diabetic cat should be getting a rabies vaccine - but many people do not think it's appropriate. Same with other illnesses. I believe the vaccine bottles are also marked "for healthy pets only" or something to that effect. So then you can get a waiver from the vaccine if your cat has been diagnosed with a health problem.
This could apply to other, non-rabies, vaccines as well, if required in your area.

If you don't have to show evidence of a vaccination, then it's strictly up to you to make the call whether to vaccinate or not. But depending on how knowledgeable your vet is, you might have to fight. So it's good to have information to support your side, and the information about waivers could provide that support.
 
ohhhh ok. yeah things are pretty lax around here. For instance. it's illegal to let your dog roam the neighborhood... but not your cat.

b ut all my cats are 100% inside cats, 2 of them have never been outside. the other i brought in as a stray.

I did get all vaccines a few years ago, but i haven't for a bit now
 
Well i have to change my stance. the soupy FF is working! I mix half a can of water into a can of food, and it soups it up just right. I can give him half and stick half away. THis is going to save me a fortune. even though this food is only 52 cents a can, he goes thorugh a ton because up till now he just licked it. but now he's eating the soup and he's getting a LOT more out of a can. I'm going to say it's increased intake 3 times out of a single can!

he's not used to having to wait for it, he starts getting antsy when i don't just plop it into the bowl. but maybe that's good it builds up anticipation;

I'm so thankful for your help here!
 
Wilbur's eating? YAY!:joyful: Excellent! And your kitty pics are STELLAR! I feed FF as well, and both my cats are anti-chunk/shred/slices.

Gizmo is my hard-head, he's holding out for at least some dry, still. I'm working on him, and he will eat about half his day's ration as wet food now. Dottie, my sugar-baby, lost all her teeth a few weeks ago, so she's got to be happy with catsoup, pureed wet food. When she tries to eat solid pate it just falls out of her mouth. There was more on the furniture and my shirt-front and her face, than went inside her. I add a wee bit of pumpkin to keep her regular.

We're very glad you are here, John. Everyone is so good at solving problems, and offering advice. I would have lost Dottie without their help.
 
Mixed with water is the only way my cats will even consider eating pate style food. They spent days turning their little noses up at it until someone suggested adding water. But for our lot, it has to be a LOT of water - we have no option but to turn the pate into a thick soup texture or it gets ignored. Even with the Max Cat flavors they get that are chunks in sauce, I have to add a load more water to make a really watery 'gravy' with the chunks. They lap up all the gravy, then come back later to eat the chunks of food. No, I've no idea why they need all that gravy when they're happy to eat the chunks later on, but I just go with whatever works. Though I've been told that when our housemate looks after them, they think he takes too long to add the right amount of water and they all sit and stare at him until he gets it just right for them! :rolleyes:
 
Here's how I found out he was going to like it.

I put a bowl of normal pate out. now, i always break them up into chunks with the can to make it easier to chomp. i put another bowl right next to it with soup. i put half a can of water in, smashed it up until it was all mixed.

He first sniffed it, then licked it, then moved over to the chunks. probably jsut because that's what he's used to. but then i went to sleep and left both out. when i woke up 2 hours later, the soup had been licked dry and there's was just a bit of hard stuff left on the bottom. so sometime he decided to try ti again and liked it.

now i do soup only and it's drastically reduced my output. i'm not kidding when i say 300% improvement. i was going through probably 6 cans per day becauase he would NOT eat, he'd only lick. now he's eating.

the good thing is, i always thought he only liked the blue cans. but it turns out he absolutely doesn't care. fish, meat, poultry, whatever, he'll eat all of it. which helps because the stores here always run out of the blue cans first. now i don't care, i buy the boxes of 30 at walmart for 15 dollars which means it's 50 cents per can, and i don't have to lug around tons of loose cans and feel bad going through the 2o or less isle, and now I don't have to avoid the self checkout because doing that with 30 cans takes forever since you can't do multiple counts without the clerk.

anyway, it's so much better. and now that i know this trick, i ended up having to add more water. he'll lick it till there's a little pile of dry stuff, so i soup it up again and it makes almost 3/4 of a bowl again. then he licks that all up.

i'm so happy about this. 90 bucks a month on fancy feast is insane
 
johnt said:
ooh i didn't know they made covers for these tiny cans.
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Chiming in a little late, here, as it looks like you've already ordered lids that will fit those little cans of kitty food. I've had good luck with these silicone covers by OrePet. So very glad Wilbur has decided he likes FF soup! I tried this with Hannah and her FF, but it didn't work. However, after hearing about your successful experience, I think I will try it again. By the way, great kitty pics! Best wishes.
 
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@Blamethecats and Hannah -

Those can covers are really clever, Carol! :cat:

BTW on the FF soup - sometimes if I add too much plain water to Saoirse's food I think the flavour may get too bland-tasting. I usually add some of the juice from a fresh pouch of her food to compensate and she eats it OK then. Alternatively, I sprinkle a crumbled up freeze-dried chicken treat on top. It might be worth experimenting with little Hannah's food to see whether flavoured water (e.g. the watery broth from poaching some chicken) might make it more palatable for her.


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Blamethecats and Hannah said:
Chiming in a little late, here, as it looks like you've already ordered lids that will fit those little cans of kitty food. I've had good luck with these silicone covers by OrePet. So very glad Wilbur has decided he likes FF soup! I tried this with Hannah and her FF, but it didn't work. However, after hearing about your successful experience, I think I will try it again. By the way, great kitty pics! Best wishes.
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I'm not above checking out both kinds, believe me. thank you!
 
Critter Mom said:
@Blamethecats and Hannah -

Those can covers are really clever, Carol! :cat:

BTW on the FF soup - sometimes if I add too much plain water to Saoirse's food I think the flavour may get too bland-tasting. I usually add some of the juice from a fresh pouch of her food to compensate and she eats it OK then. Alternatively, I sprinkle a crumbled up freeze-dried chicken treat on top. It might be worth experimenting with little Hannah's food to see whether flavoured water (e.g. the watery broth from poaching some chicken) might make it more palatable for her.


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yeah i worry about that too. so when i put it in the bowl i make sure to scrape all that gross congealed stuff out of the can too. lol. as long as he eats it I'm ok. i don't want to add extras unless I have to because then he'll expect it and it can get tedious to do
 
johnt said:
yeah i worry about that too. so when i put it in the bowl i make sure to scrape all that gross congealed stuff out of the can too. lol. as long as he eats it I'm ok. i don't want to add extras unless I have to because then he'll expect it and it can get tedious to do
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@johnt, I've had these thoughts, too. Since you've had such good luck with the way you're mixing the food, I'd say to stick with it. I just tried giving Hannah a little bit of FF beef soup. She lapped up most of the liquid, no problem! Now there's quite a bit of the thicker stuff left, so I'm hoping she'll go for that at some point this AM.

@Critter Mom, I've also had the thought about the soup mixture getting watered down and bland... tasteless. So perhaps I will have to consider some home-made chicken broth to help revive the flavor. It shouldn't be too much effort to poach a little chicken and freeze the broth in small containers to be thawed and used when needed. Thanks for the advice. As you already know, getting my little fusspot to eat has been a real challenge and continues to test my patience.
 
Your can go to cat info.org & print out the 32 page list to compare carb values. Mush was being fed 9 lives as well as friskies, & fancy feast classic. Thanks to this website
he went into remission after 4 months. You can purchase all 3 mentioned at bj's warehouse club. Just make sure to carry your food list with you. Good Luck & much
success, cats are very stubborn & they know how to push your buttons!!!
 
Critter Mom said:
@Blamethecats and Hannah - Be interested to hear how Hannah gets on with the broth. Fingers and paws crossed that she will like it. :bighug:


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Unfortunately, right now I don't have any fresh or even frozen chicken in the house. Will make sure it's on the shopping list the next time I head out to the grocery store. As for today's soup, she seemed to like it at first, then that was that, and she didn't touch it again. She's a challenge, that's for sure!
 
johnt said:
part of the problem with wilbur is access me thinks. His seizures got quite bad before we diagnosed them. the damned v et kept telling me it was from sugar and I kept tellilng her that's not right. i finally had to PROVE it to her. i knew it wasn't BSL because even after giving him insulin 3 hours later he had a seizure then 10 hours later another. that finally convinced her it was not diabetes. thank god he doesn't have them now. but point being, during two of his bad ones, be broke off both upper canines so he's not very good at getting food into his mouth

also, warming in the microwave might be a good idea
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Poor kitty. Interesting about the vet thinking seizures were related/caused by diabetes. In another facebook group I belong to there is a 5 month old kitten that TWO vets are saying is diabetic (though they didn't test the cats BG) due to having seizures. I know I don't know everything about feline diabetes, but if one of my cats was having seizures I'm not sure I would automatically think diabetes.
2 of my cats are missing the upper canines but thankfully has not slowed down there appetite.
 
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