Chico - 2yr Male Cat recently diagnosed with diabetes :(

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we have brands like almo nature, schesir, princess, applaws, sheba here in malta and others but still checking on carbs values.

what do you think of any of these?
 
Hi Tiziana ~ I was thinking, if you can't find any of the lower carb wet foods in Malta, you could try cooking for him. I have seen links to recipes for making your own cat food and maybe even on this site might be some. Or start a new thread and ask if anyone has recipes suitable for diabetic cats.
 
the brands i mentioned above seem to have some flavours with low carbs so should be good.
i am attaching a summary of foods i checked.
 

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the brands i mentioned above seem to have some flavours with low carbs so should be good.
i am attaching a summary of foods i checked.
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Yes, those look familiar from my list as well. Other than the Sheba Classics (which I'm using as Lily's morning meal since she seems to like them), they are all the same style of food - small scraps of either chicken or tuna in jelly. Fine if your cat likes them, but my two aren't crazy about them and I'd never get Lily to accept them. But give them a try - and the Sheba Classics too! Please note that all Sheba Classic flavors might not be suitable, so definitely match the flavors to the ones on the list.
 
Jeannette & Lily i created my list from your list translating flavours on google that is why they are familiar as those are brands that i can hopefully find locally.

Bobbie and Bubba yes i know about fish ... thankss

What do you think about friskies and eukanuba ?
 
just found this brand Thrive - what do you think of it ?? I'll have to buy it online though
 
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What do you mean when you say that Applaws is not a complete food ?
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In the U.S., a cat food must have certain necessary vitamins and amino acids added to the food to be considered a food that is "complete", meaning that you can feed it exclusively every day without it causing a vitamin deficiency. Applaws is not considered complete and is recommended for supplemental feeding only (in the U.S.). Some flavors are literally just chicken and water- they have no added taurine, Vit E, etc. So, it would sort of be the equivalent of feeding chicken that you cook at home, which is okay if you give the cat extra vitamin/amino acid supplements. If you want to go this route, or if you want to make homemade cat food, we can send you the link to Lisa Pierson's cat food recipe, which will tell you what vitamins/minerals you need to add so that your cat doesn't get sick from a deficiency.
 
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What do you think about friskies and eukanuba ?
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Many people on the forum feed certain flavors of Friskies that have lower carbs. Each flavor has a different amount of protein or carbs, which you need to consider before deciding which flavors to feed. I thought you had settled on the Nature's Menu food?
 
no chico didnt eat nature's menu food i went to change pouches today.

what do you think of Thrive Complete wet cat food ?? they told me it's perfect for cats with diabetes and is a complete food

i will see lisa Pierson's food recipe to see what i can add to his food applaws / almo nature
 
According to my calculations, the Thrive Complete food is very low in carbs, only 2.1%. If you try it out, please let me know if it's another food with small strips of white chicken meat (since Lily's not too thrilled with those). Thanks!
 
i had to buy them online as they are not available locally....i ordered 36 cans mixed chicken / chicken + turkey / ocean fish. they should be at me by next week and really hope chico will eat them as he is costing me soooo much but if it works out i'm happy for the money spent and that way i know i found food that he likes and is good for him.

fingers and paws crossed that it will be okay so i can stop buying the non complete food like almo / applaws

also what do you think of schesir and sheba ??

thankss
 
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i had to buy them online as they are not available locally....i ordered 36 cans mixed chicken / chicken + turkey / ocean fish. they should be at me by next week and really hope chico will eat them as he is costing me soooo much but if it works out i'm happy for the money spent and that way i know i found food that he likes and is good for him.

fingers and paws crossed that it will be okay so i can stop buying the non complete food like almo / applaws

also what do you think of schesir and sheba ??

thankss
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Schesir is another brand that seems quite similar to Almo/Applaws (and which my two aren't interested in). Sheba is a rather standard supermarket brand here, probably not the best quality (?) but I'm happy that they have quite a few varieties that are low-carb, because Lily eats it enthusiastically most of the time. (Except now she won't, because I said that!!)
 
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hahaha at the moment the foods i have at home are almo/applaws/schesir/sheba - i will give him these then when i get thrive complete will start those and if he eats them ill keep buying that brand for now till i find another complete food brand.
 
hi

i recently bought pouches in jelly for Purina Gourmet https://www.gourmet-cat.co.uk/Products/Details.aspx?BrandRangeId=23&ViewIds=23&CrsStartIdx=1

as per my calculations it is good to give to my cat as carbs are low. can anyone confirm this please ? and whether it is considered to be a complete meal ??

ANALYTICAL CONSTITUENTS ANALYSIS (%)
Moisture 80.0%
Protein 14.0%
Fat content 2.5%
Crude ash 2.2%
Crude fibres 0.5%

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It is on the German "not suitable" list because it has sugar in it!

Tizi_C said:
hi

i recently bought pouches in jelly for Purina Gourmet https://www.gourmet-cat.co.uk/Products/Details.aspx?BrandRangeId=23&ViewIds=23&CrsStartIdx=1

as per my calculations it is good to give to my cat as carbs are low. can anyone confirm this please ? and whether it is considered to be a complete meal ??

ANALYTICAL CONSTITUENTS ANALYSIS (%)
Moisture 80.0%
Protein 14.0%
Fat content 2.5%
Crude ash 2.2%
Crude fibres 0.5%
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so although low in carbs it is not good as high sugar?

how can i check for sugar in food ?
 
ok just seen and product info says various sugars :( so i bought wrong product....is ok to give to my other cat ?
 
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ok just seen and product info says various sugars :( so i bought wrong product....is ok to give to my other cat ?
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Hi Tiziana, that's your call as far as giving to the other non-diabetic cats. My only concern would be for my sugar cat to get into it.....if it were me, I take would send them back so I wouldn't have to worry about Bubba getting into it.
 
aaaa finally site is back, i was having difficulty to enter.

i tested chico's urine with test strips and below is the result:

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As you can see all seem okay within normal values. But 1st box which is for LEU resulted positive as it turned purple.

I originally tested his urine to check for glucose because of diabetes as when we took blood tests and urine tests it resulted he had high sugar.

Now from my tests at home glucose seems normal (can't understand how as when i took him to vet it was very high) so i came to a conclusion that maybe he was so stressed that his levels shot up when he was at vet.

Now from my tests LEU is positive and i have been told that this means he has an infection, so i took another sample and took it to the vet for testing. Unfortunately i couldn't take the sample on the same day so had to refrigerate it and take it the following day. I also tested this same sample at home as soon as i picked up pee and same result came out LEU positive.

My vet tested it with stick and machine and all results came out normal, so i am lost. How is it that the tests at home show LEU being positive?

Any feedback please ??
 
Is the correct time being used for each section of the strip. From what I remember reading about the 10 reagent strips. not every function uses the same time frame for results. Each brand of reagent strips is different so my thought is to check the instructions for timing. Just a thought.
 
Yes, the timing can make a big difference and you might have to read each one at a different time. Leukocytes in the absence of a UTI might be due to sterile interstitial cystitis (bladder inflammation without an infection). Also, they didn't see crystals in the pee, right?
 
Ok i will go through timing of each. Vet said all seemed ok with his urine results and didn't mention any crystals.

If it is as u said bladder inflammation do i need to give a course of antibiotics?

When I originally spoke to vet she told me if i wanted to be safe we could give him a course for 10 days
 
If a culture and sensitivity was run and was negative, then it could be inflammation, which would not improve with a course of antibiotics. If they ran a culture and got no/minimal bacterial growth, then watch out for UTI-like symptoms. Have you noticed any straining or smaller volumes of pee with increased litter box use?
 
It's a bit tricky because cats with diabetes are more prone to UTIs, but you really need to rule a UTI in or out with a culture and sensitivity to be sure.
 
What do u mean by culture and sensitivity?

No straining in litter use and he pees quite a normal volume a bit increased since he's on a wet food diet
 
A culture and sensitivity is when a urine sample is allowed to sit and grow any bacteria that may be present ( the culturing part). If any grow, then different antibiotics are tested to see which one(s) work (the sensitivity part).
 
okay so if vet said his urine tests are all okay and nothing results positive i am safe to depend on those ?

as my result for positive leukocyte most prob is a false reading ?

thanks
 
Tizi_C said:
okay so if vet said his urine tests are all okay and nothing results positive i am safe to depend on those ?

as my result for positive leukocyte most prob is a false reading ?

thanks
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I think you're probably okay if there's no UTI symptoms. But if you notice anything like that in the future, I would suggest asking the vet to run a culture & sensitivity specifically. You can't assume they did one along with the other urine tests. Sometimes they just look for bacteria under a microscope which doesn't give as much info.
 
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