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we moved temporarily back to my moms- he's been here before and has had no trouble adjusting. he's not acting stressed or scared- yes he will play still with his toys and the laser but I don't want to wear him out in this heat. I've chilled his distilled water but it doesn't stay cold for too long if he doesn't drink it right away
 
maybe freeze ziploc baggies and put in a large plastic tub (in case of leaks!) with a layer over it?
 
If the heat is what is causing the numbers to vary, and he isn't comfortable, he might lie on it.
If you palpate his abdomen/rub his tummy does he respond as if he is painful?
 
ok i'm getting really nervous because i'm leaving for vacation sept 16-21 and this is the first time i'll be far away enough where i can't jump in the car and be home in a couple hours. my boyfriend is in charge of scout and his meals/injections. he has no problem measuring and shooting scout, but he has trouble with taking a blood test... and it doesn't help that he's highly allergic. by looking at scout's numbers do you think he look stable enough to where he can get 2.5 units ever 12 hours without getting tested? he does know how to test him, but its just a matter of whether or not scout will cooperate for him.
 
Hmm ... Kristin, this is trickier to figure out because we don't have much in the way of mid-cycle numbers lately.

I'm concerned about keeping the dose at 2.5U while you're away without any pre-shot tests going on. Here's why: I'm beginning to wonder if maybe Scout's dose of insulin isn't actually a little too much. (I'm basing this on looking back at the pattern in his SS, where we can see some mid-cycle #s ...) As is possible that with too high a dose, his body can be compensating for it - and then you see consistently high AMPS/PMPS #s as a result. This can happen ... Just a thought. Input from some others, on this? Such as @Sue and Oliver (GA), @BJM , @Rachel - ???
 
At this point, I don't think it would hurt to try a reduction, as your recent higher doses sure don't seem to be doing much of anything ...
Can you can manage getting in a couple of mid-cycle tests tonight?
I like your idea of getting a curve during tomorrow's day cycle, btw; this will help give you a better idea of what's going on in general.:)
(How's your sneaky boy been doing on staying out of contraband food? Did you see the post about Samir, the beer-loving kitty, on another thread - this forum - yesterday? Pretty funny stuff!:D)
 
I think we can figure out what a safer dose would be after seeing your curve. If your BF isn't able to get preshots numbers, I would probably think about lowering the dose while you're gone...for safety's sake.

Does he have info on what to do if he suspects a hypo, what signs to look for, etc? Also, does he know your vet? You might want to make sure you leave instructions/permission for him to take Scout to the vet and do whatever needs to be done. Not saying he'll need it, but just in case.
 
Rachel said:
I think we can figure out what a safer dose would be after seeing your curve. If your BF isn't able to get preshots numbers, I would probably think about lowering the dose while you're gone...for safety's sake.
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@Rachel -I was thinking that maybe doing a slight redux tonight might give Kristin a head start on seeing how that scenario may roll out while she's away? @Kristin & Scout - Am I correct in assuming you're leaving Wednesday?
 
yes i am leaving early wednesday morning- about 2 hours before his AM shot. just took his +6 and he hasn't dropped much at all today. my bf is familiar with the vet and has come with me several times, but i will leave hypo signs for him just in case
 
I went on vacation for four days last month and then I am going again for a week in October. My brother handled all the animal chores. He tested at pre-shots but no nadir tests. I was also gone all in March and April of this year in which my husband took care of Merlin. Again, pre-shot tests but no nadir tests. I created a vacation dose which was anywhere from .2 to .4 lower than usual. I also indicated a "no shoot" under 220 instead of the 200 (even though I shoot at 180). It worked out really well and I felt better and I couldn't believe how well his numbers were while I was gone. You can see in my comment section my vacation dose (sliding scale). The green shade on my ss indicates vacation. I will probably use the same dose schedule again. Also I printed off the hypo document and made him read it before I left. I created five syringe samples with yellow dye in it and indicated by tape of how much it is and to use for what numbers. I also switched to the vacation dose about 3-4 days before I left, so I knew how Merlin would respond. When I was gone for March and April, my husband entered the numbers in the ss but for my brother, I drew a little graph for him to fill in i.e. date, dose, number and am or pm.
 
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@Rachel - Good reminder re: making arrangements re: vet/hypo before leaving town, btw. :)
(That's the sort of stuff I tend to remember right after I board a plane...:banghead: :rolleyes:)
 
Merlin said:
I created a vacation dose which was anywhere from .2 to .4 lower than usual. I also indicated a "no shoot" under 220 instead of the 200 (even though I shoot at 180). It worked out really well and I felt better and I couldn't believe how well his numbers were while I was gone.
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@Merlin - Wow, Cindi - that is too outstanding!:cool:

ETA: And have just pasted your entire post into my "advice" file.
 
do you guys think i need to lower his dose below 2units tonight? and is it more likely that he needs less insulin rather than his high numbers being from the heat? i've also noticed his voice has seemed a little raspy lately, but i'm not sure how much that has to do with any of this
 
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do you guys think i need to lower his dose below 2units tonight? and is it more likely that he needs less insulin rather than his high numbers being from the heat? i've also noticed his voice has seemed a little raspy lately, but i'm not sure how much that has to do with any of this
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Kristin, I'm not sure that I'd recommend you do more than a 0.5 unit reduction all at one time, as that might be too extreme a redux? Would love to get some additional input from - esp. from @BJM, @Sue and Oliver (GA) on this idea ... Let's see if they will jump in here with their take on it, as they may have a better idea than I do.

ETA: @Rachel - what's your take on this idea of Kristin's?
 
If he was mine, I'd just go down to 2 units tonight. Remember, part of the reason we are doing this is to see what a good vacation dose would be. Going down just by .5 will give us some info and even if that dose is too high for a vacation dose, we'll be able to see that and can take it from there. :)
 
Rachel said:
If he was mine, I'd just go down to 2 units tonight. Remember, part of the reason we are doing this is to see what a good vacation dose would be. Going down just by .5 will give us some info and even if that dose is too high for a vacation dose, we'll be able to see that and can take it from there. :)
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@Rachel - Thanks for joining in here. You explained the reasoning perfectly! :bighug:
 
I think 2 units is a good trial for a curve. If he is really high, then maybe 2.5 for a vacation dose,. Does your BF know how to do a ketone test?

I think, when you get home, if he is still high, I'd go up.
 
ok so i did scout's night curve (even though it has turned me into a zombie lol) and he did run a bit lower through the night, or maybe it was the dose reduction haha.

idk if my boyfriend will be around enough to catch scout in the litter box to check for ketones but i will put it on his list of instructions (aka demands ;))
 
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ok so i did scout's night curve (even though it has turned me into a zombie lol) and he did run a bit lower through the night, or maybe it was the dose reduction haha.

idk if my boyfriend will be around enough to catch scout in the litter box to check for ketones but i will put it on his list of instructions (aka demands ;))
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Good luck Kristin and have a nice time on vacation. When I went to MI in early August, I had instructions or "demand" like crazy for my husband. He would call me after each pre-shot test and I would guide him if the dose needed to be changed. Try and go and relax and not worry. (easier said than done)
 
It was a little lower last night. I'd say go ahead with 2 units while on your trip and feel that he will be safe. When you get back, we'll see where things stand.

Getting a ketone test would probably be a real test of his devotion. :kiss:
 
Hi, Kristin - Wasn't able to check in/ post earlier (just returned from taking Bat-Bat in for her first-ever dental :nailbiting:), but sure was heartened to see those yellows had appeared in Scout's mid-cycle last night. Re: Sue's sound advice (as usual!;)) on dosage while you're away - yep, I think that'll work well, so that you feel confident he's safe while your on vacation.

Loved your remark re: instructions (aka: demands) - you're a hoot!:D I really hope your time away is relaxing - try not to worry about Scout, as sounds like your boyfriend will do a very good job as stand-in caretaker. :)
 
Sue and Oliver (GA) said:
Getting a ketone test would probably be a real test of his devotion. :kiss:
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Sue, I can't stop laughing. I don't think my husband would do that.

Very nice numbers Scout...oh yeah...just when your mama is about to leave. That is what Merlin did when I went on vacation...his numbers improved. Guess I just have to stay away!
 
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Hi, Kristin - Wasn't able to check in/ post earlier (just returned from taking Bat-Bat in for her first-ever dental :nailbiting:), but sure was heartened to see those yellows had appeared in Scout's mid-cycle last night. Re: Sue's sound advice (as usual!;)) on dosage while you're away - yep, I think that'll work well, so that you feel confident he's safe while your on vacation.

Loved your remark re: instructions (aka: demands) - you're a hoot!:D I really hope your time away is relaxing - try not to worry about Scout, as sounds like your boyfriend will do a very good job as stand-in caretaker. :)
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Please give us an update when you get "Little Miss Sparkling Smile" safely back home.
 
thank you! i will definitely try to enjoy myself and not worry too much haha

I was just able to take a ketone test and it came back negative/trace

I'm mostly worried about scout getting stressed out from being lonely while I'm gone! he's gonna have a lot of free time on his hands while I'm sipping butterbeer in Orlando! haha

scouts arm still looks so funny from his dental where they had to shave it for the IV or whatever it was there. my little shaven freak cat!
 
Do you add water to your canned food? Also you might want to consider distilled water for his drinking. This was suggested to me because the more water he can get, it will help him flush out the traces of ketones. I use distilled / RO water in both his food and water dish.
 
Merlin said:
Do you add water to your canned food? Also you might want to consider distilled water for his drinking. This was suggested to me because the more water he can get, it will help him flush out the traces of ketones. I use distilled / RO water in both his food and water dish.
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Why distilled? Is refrigerator filtered okay?
 
Distilled or reverse osmosis removes quite a bit of the harsh minerals so the kidney, bladder, etc. doesn't have to work as hard trying to filter it. I don't think the refrigerator filter is as thorough.
 
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Distilled or reverse osmosis removes quite a bit of the harsh minerals so the kidney, bladder, etc. doesn't have to work as hard trying to filter it. I don't think the refrigerator filter is as thorough.
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Thanks for that info,I will go get some distilled water.
 
Any chance at all that he got into anything (food-wise) this afternoon he shouldn't have, Kristin? (I know how sneaky mine can be...)
 
It's possible he went down during the day and you're seeing a bounce. Also possible he got into some contraband like Robin said. I think what Sue said is spot on...when you come home, if he's high, it's time to raise that dose.

Have fun in Orlando!
 
:bighug:It is better that he is higher rather than lower while you were gone. Overnight, he had the first yellows he has seen in a while. Possibly he had yellows yesterday during the day and he is bouncing for preshots. Your boyfriend will take good care of him. Everyone deserves a break, Kristen.
 
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:bighug:It is better that he is higher rather than lower while you were gone. Overnight, he had the first yellows he has seen in a while. Possibly he had yellows yesterday during the day and he is bouncing for preshots. Your boyfriend will take good care of him. Everyone deserves a break, Kristen.
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Yep, that's right; please enjoy your time off in Orlando. (Don't worry; your honey will take good care of Scout.)
 
Please go and enjoy yourself. I look at it this way. How long was he diabetic before he was diagnosed? He probably was in those high numbers for a long time and you didn't even know it, so if he is higher than usual for one week, in the whole scheme of things, it is not going to make a big difference. Also he is getting insulin now, so he isn't going to be as bad as he was before he was diagnosed. That is my theory or analogy.
 
thanks everyone! I'm having a great vacation. I've been told that Scout has been peeing a lot so I'm worried that he's not getting enough insulin. my boyfriend has tried pricking the ear to test but I don't know what he's doing because he keeps poking himself and not able to draw blood or gets an error message so he's obviously doing something wrong for testing haha so I told him to stop wasting my test strips. otherwise everything else seems fine he said!
 
Kristin, has boyfriend watched any home test videos?
Just thinking that might help him.

Have a ball in Orlando!!

PS. Just don't spend all your $$, you know you're gonna need some strips! ;)
 
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