Is Methyl B 12 forever?

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dana moore

dana moore

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I'm getting ready to order another bottle of the methyl b12 and it's pretty pricey but not too bad $30 for 60 days supply but along with everything else it gets expensive with the forti flora and food ect...
I was wondering if this is something that my cat Riley has to be on forever because he no longer shows signs of neuropathy.
I'm wondering if the neuropathy will come back if I stop giving him the methyl b12?
 
You could try splitting the dose, Dana. Maybe half a tablet daily? (Tip: If you're using Zobaline split the tablet on a piece of paper. It's a bit crumbly so catching the powder on the paper saves waste. )
 
Dana,

If Riley's current numbers are anything like those lovely blues in his SS (up till July) then, IMHO, he shouldn't need the B12 at all....
Neuropathy usually happens in cats that have high blood glucose levels, and often those that have been in high numbers long term.
Because vitamin B is water-soluble cats that pee a lot can lose too much of this vitamin by peeing it out (they can become potassium deficient also).
Is Riley peeing normally? And not in copious amounts?

Vitamin B12 does have other benefits however, and some people do give it as a tonic. But the dose should be much lower than would be given for neuropathy.
Also, do be aware that vitamin B12 is not without it's risks. It helps with cell growth and replication, I think, and because of this should not normally be used in cats that may be at risk of having cancer....
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I can't access Riley's spreadsheet from work. However, if his glucose levels are under control and is having no more signs of neuropathy, then it would be safe to either reduce his dose or stop giving it to him. When I adopted Spot, she had severe neuropathy. After several months of the proper diet, insulin and methyl B12, you would never have recognized her. She was a completely different
 
I was going to ask this very question! Jenks has been on Zobaline for about a year and a half now. I credit it with single-handedly restoring his mobility, which is why I religiously give it to him every day still. But I've certainly been curious about how to determine when, and if, it no longer is necessary to continue.
 
Elizabeth and Bertie said:
Dana,

If Riley's current numbers are anything like those lovely blues in his SS (up till July) then, IMHO, he shouldn't need the B12 at all....
Neuropathy usually happens in cats that have high blood glucose levels, and often those that have been in high numbers long term.
Because vitamin B is water-soluble cats that pee a lot can lose too much of this vitamin by peeing it out (they can become potassium deficient also).
Is Riley peeing normally? And not in copious amounts?

Vitamin B12 does have other benefits however, and some people do give it as a tonic. But the dose should be much lower than would be given for neuropathy.
Also, do be aware that vitamin B12 is not without it's risks. It helps with cell growth and replication, I think, and because of this should not normally be used in cats that may be at risk of having cancer....
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Elizabeth and Bertie said:
Dana,

If Riley's current numbers are anything like those lovely blues in his SS (up till July) then, IMHO, he shouldn't need the B12 at all....
Neuropathy usually happens in cats that have high blood glucose levels, and often those that have been in high numbers long term.
Because vitamin B is water-soluble cats that pee a lot can lose too much of this vitamin by peeing it out (they can become potassium deficient also).
Is Riley peeing normally? And not in copious amounts?

Vitamin B12 does have other benefits however, and some people do give it as a tonic. But the dose should be much lower than would be given for neuropathy.
Also, do be aware that vitamin B12 is not without it's risks. It helps with cell growth and replication, I think, and because of this should not normally be used in cats that may be at risk of having cancer....
.
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Hey Elizabeth thanks for the advice I just had a question are you talking about methyl b12 or regular b12? I'm not sure if there's a big difference and how it reacts to the body I know in humans that you're not supposed to take b12 or any B vitamin unless there's a deficiency.
Riley could barely walk when he had his episode of diabetes his right leg was dragging behind him and the methyl b12 definitely helped. He no longer limps and he walks on the tippy toes of his feet like he's supposed to.
So you're saying once the symptoms disappear from the limping that he should no longer take it? He has had a recent infection and that foot from chewing at his toes. I wonder if he still has the feeling of neuropathy from the tingling because he keeps messing with those toes?
That's why I was wondering if I should keep giving him the methyl b12 or not. Yes his numbers are all good he hasn't had numbers higher than 117 in probably over a month.
Thank u for the response.
 
AZJenks said:
I was going to ask this very question! Jenks has been on Zobaline for about a year and a half now. I credit it with single-handedly restoring his mobility, which is why I religiously give it to him every day still. But I've certainly been curious about how to determine when, and if, it no longer is necessary to continue.
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Hey Lisa yeah I just wanted to tell you that Riley was limping and couldn't walk at all and I couldn't believe after I gave him the methyl b12 I noticed a difference right away I would say within two weeks he was no longer limping and he was walking normal it was almost a miracle. That's why I'm afraid to stop giving it to him.
 
I'd concur that once the BG numbers are under better control you could likely stop the methyl B12. Genghis couldn't walk 3 steps without sitting down, nor could she jump or even do those lovely cat stretches. I did get some and mixed it in her food for a bit (two weeks) but she threw it up twice (she never throws up!) so I assumed it was from the B12 and stopped it for a bit. She is walking almost normally and can also run and jump again all without B12 - so I attribute this more to her BG than the B12. I would think the B12 alone would not have much effect in the absence of better blood sugar control, but it can certainly enhance and speed up the repair of the nerves.
 
I purchased one bottle of Zobaline but felt it was too expensive so I went to the health store and bought the next best one for Snick. She was on Vetsulin and B-12 but her neuropathy didn't seem to be getting better. I ended up switching her to Lantus and her walk is almost normal now. I credit the insulin in her case and I have stopped the B-12.
 
I know that the metal b 12 help my cat because he was limping very badly even after I had gotten his glucose numbers under control and within 2 or 3 days of the methyl b12 I noticed a huge improvement and he's walking normal now so I know for a fact that it has helped Reilly. I stopped giving it to him so hopefully it won't come back.
 
Wow, Dana - Rileys numbers look great! Nice job!

Based on some documents I have read, the neuropathy (nerve damage) is caused by persistent high blood sugar and is reversible. It shouldn't come back if Riley stays regulated the way he is.

I found this vet "ish" article if you like and this wiki for your peace of mind.
 
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