Food Options- Dehydrated Raw/Canned- Low Carb/Phosphorus That My Cat Will Eat:)

[Asrael]

Hi,
I have a question about food for a diabetic cat. I have looked at Tanya's List already- so am aware of it.
Trouble has been doing great with a low carb diet since his diagnosis.

We started feeding him a mix of high end canned foods- wellness/weruva/evo but he was being very picky with them, and he finds the Weruva chunks to be to big- so we started feeding fancy feast classics- which of course he LOVES I then became aware of the importance of the amount of phosphorus in the food, which FF has high levels of. His recent full blood test was high normal in the kidney range- don't have the number here.. The vet basically said not to worry about it at this time, that he is normal and its something that is expected (?!?!?). The urine kidney values were fine.

That being said I do want to be careful and aware of the amount of phosphorus I give him on a daily basis. This week we started giving him more of the other canned foods, and also some Primal Raw Dehydrated food (hydrated with LOTS of water), then mixing in some fancy feast at the end- He has been really happy with that so far..

We have tried to feed him frozen raw in the past and he turns his nose up at it and won't eat it.

So my questions-
1. Does anyone know how high the phosphorus values are in Primal Raw Dehydrated or Stella and Chewy's? and is it ok to feed him that if we add lots of water?

2. How do you find the balance between the phosphorus/low carb in your cats diet- with food that he enjoys?
I do live in Canada so we don't always have the food options that are available in the states.

I guess that is it for now. Any thoughts appreciated

Thanks so much for your time!
Asrael

 

[SpecklesandMe]

It might be hard to get this info without emailing the company directly. For example, on Lisa Pierson's chart, she says about Stella and Chewy's:
"This company required that I sign a confidentiality agreement
before they would provide ‘typical nutrient analysis’ data for their
macronutrients (moisture, protein, fat, fber, ash). This would
obviously defeat the purpose of gathering data for this chart"
http://www.catinfo.org/docs/FoodChartPublic9-22-12.pdf

Just an idea about Weruva- you could blend in a food processor if chunks are too big. I don't blame you if you don't want to, but it's an option.

 

[Cat Ma]

Here's some info on phosphorus content for Stella & Chewy's: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/259516/stella-and-chewys-calcium-and-phosphorus

I have no idea what the carb content is. A lot of us feed our sugar cats S&C's.

Someone might be able to figure the carbs using this calculator: http://scheyderweb.com/cats/catfood.html

 

[billysmom (GA)]

primal gives phosphorous values on their website. Since it's freeze dried there is little or no moisture so the values for phosphorous is essentially the same as dry matter. The freeze dried turkey comes in under 1%.

 

[Asrael]

primal gives phosphorous values on their website. Since it's freeze dried there is little or no moisture so the values for phosphorous is essentially the same as dry matter. The freeze dried turkey comes in under 1%.

Great to know thanks @billysmom (GA) - He seems to like it so far- haven't tried the turkey, but will get that next time

 

[Asrael]

Here's some info on phosphorus content for Stella & Chewy's: http://www.thecatsite.com/t/259516/stella-and-chewys-calcium-and-phosphorus

I have no idea what the carb content is. A lot of us feed our sugar cats S&C's.

Someone might be able to figure the carbs using this calculator: http://scheyderweb.com/cats/catfood.html

Thanks for that @Cat Ma ! It does help to see and I will try to find carb content or will call the company.

 

[Asrael]

It might be hard to get this info without emailing the company directly. For example, on Lisa Pierson's chart, she says about Stella and Chewy's:
"This company required that I sign a confidentiality agreement
before they would provide ‘typical nutrient analysis’ data for their
macronutrients (moisture, protein, fat, fber, ash). This would
obviously defeat the purpose of gathering data for this chart"
http://www.catinfo.org/docs/FoodChartPublic9-22-12.pdf

Just an idea about Weruva- you could blend in a food processor if chunks are too big. I don't blame you if you don't want to, but it's an option.

Thanks @SpecklesandMe . That is interesting about having to sign a waiver- very strange.. But I will give them a call- He does seem to like the primal- just thought it may be nice to have more options. And yes- we have tried the blender and mincing- and we can definitely do that! Its funny we are vegetarians and its so weird handling so much meat right now- but anything for the babies.

 

[Anitafrnhamer]

Here is a food list from felinecrf.org :http://www.felinecrf.org/canned_food_usa.htm

It is a very long list (for the US) but you might give it a look over and find answers/options. Failing that you can always email/call the company.

 

[SpecklesandMe]

Its funny we are vegetarians and its so weird handling so much meat right now- but anything for the babies.

We are too! That is hilarious!