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Bobbie And Bubba

Bobbie And Bubba

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The nadir today was a bit more than 50% of preshot, so I upped the ante a bit. I will keep an eye on him through the night. He is eating now. He was sick of FF Turkey Feast, got new flavors and he is happy. I don't won't to lose the momentum with going into the normal ranges.
 
I think it looks good, Bobbie. I would plan to get a +2 to see how he is headed and a nadir if possible. You know how to steer low numbers with food?
 
Robin&BB said:
Don't have anything to add here, except to say ... Wow, Bubba sure is gorgeous! (And good luck tonight riding the red-eye BG train ...)
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Thanks Robin. I love black cats! One of my first ones was Sambo. I know, not politically correct today. He was the sweetest and most gentle cat souls...... Just tested at 2.25+ and he is 255. I will test again at 4+ and them set my alarm for 12ish AM EST which would be +6. Fingers crossed......
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Thanks Robin. I love black cats! One of my first ones was Sambo. I know, not politically correct today. He was the sweetest and most gentle cat souls...... Just tested at 2.25+ and he is 255. I will test again at 4+ and them set my alarm for 12ish AM EST which would be +6. Fingers crossed......
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PS @ Robin&BB, Bubba was a rescue from a feral mom cat on my friends farm. I saw where other's have diabetic rescues from feral colonies. Makes me wonder if these cats are MORE screwed when they get away from their diets of origins from mother's in the wild then fed these high carb crappy diets. Wonder if any statistic have been done feral rescues vs domestic breed. Just a thought.
 
Merlin said:
Looks like Bubba is going to have an awesome night to go along with his awesome day!
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Let's hope it is good numbers and not scary numbers! Don't know what made me decide to get aggressive, guess I am just tired of pussyfooting around with safe numbers. Couldn't help using the "pussyfooting" pun.
 
You've gotten a lot of tests and data. It's not a bad time to get brave, considering that. We tend to be more conservative when there's little data to go off, but you've been so committed to it (go you!) that I think it was a great decision. Since you know you can be around to monitor, this will help...it'll give you data on what this kind of dose might cause.

Remember, this forum is dead in the evenings (I'm going to bed in a bit myself so IF something should happen where you need help, cross post on health. I always post both places since some eyes don't check health as often (yep, I mean me). Looking forward to seeing where he goes tonight!
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
PS @ Robin&BB, Bubba was a rescue from a feral mom cat on my friends farm. I saw where other's have diabetic rescues from feral colonies. Makes me wonder if these cats are MORE screwed when they get away from their diets of origins from mother's in the wild then fed these high carb crappy diets. Wonder if any statistic have been done feral rescues vs domestic breed. Just a thought.
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Hmm, that's an intriguing thought ... I might research that one! I'm convinced that the crappy, corn-rich Science Diet "prescription" dry food the vet insisted I give her when she had had her first UTI, several years ago, played a major role in her developing diabetes. I simply didn't know any better back then.

Bat-Bat was starving from the minute I rescued her (abandoned by feral mother & trapped in a heater vent, no evidence of siblings) & has been a voracious eater ever since. The only reason I even kept her was that the vet in CO where I'd found her told me she was far too young to be vaccinated at 1 month. She said that if I took her to the local no-kill shelter (as I'd first planned, because DH is allergic to cats) she would likely pick up the "first thing going around" at the shelter & not survive.

We had just lost our beloved 13-yr-old dog to liver cancer. Already grieving, I just couldn't part with this helpless baby-cat (albeit a "spitfire," even at that tender age). Oddly, she is the only cat ever that didn't cause an allergic response in my husband! (Weird, huh?)

Fast-forward almost 11 years later: Bat-Bat is still hell-on-wheels and a one-person cat (that would be me), in spite of numerous attempts to socialize her w/frequent exposures to friends & family. "Love-bites" are her only way of showing me affection; will let me hold & pet her (and treat her diabetes, thank goodness!) - but only tolerates it for a few minutes before she jumps off my lap, to run to her scratch lounge and "shake off the people."

I'd grown up with kitties (Siamese) and have had others over the years on my own (always just one at a time), but have never experienced such a breathtakingly fractious cat in my life! And yet Bat-Bat has her sweet moments, too ... I under stand her (and somehow, I believe she understands me, too) ... and the simple truth is: I love her with all my heart. And I know that heart will break every bit as much as it would if she were the most gentle kitty in the world, when the day comes that she goes on ahead.
 
Rachel said:
Remember, this forum is dead in the evenings (I'm going to bed in a bit myself so IF something should happen where you need help, cross post on health. I always post both places since some eyes don't check health as often (yep, I mean me). Looking forward to seeing where he goes tonight!
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I'm probably around (sporadically) until 10:30-11:00 pm Pacific Time tonight, just so you know ... and I think, from the looks of Bubba's spreadsheet, that his #s are looking like the cat's meow. (Joining you in bad pun land.):woot:
 
So glad you're around at night Robin!! I agree, numbers are lovely!

Bobbie, I leave you in Robin's capable hands. :)
 
Robin&BB said:
Hmm, that's an intriguing thought ... I might research that one! I'm convinced that the crappy, corn-rich Science Diet "prescription" dry food the vet insisted I give her when she had had her first UTI, several years ago, played a major role in her developing diabetes. I simply didn't know any better back then.

Bat-Bat was starving from the minute I rescued her (abandoned by feral mother & trapped in a heater vent, no evidence of siblings) & has been a voracious eater ever since. The only reason I even kept her was that the vet in CO where I'd found her told me she was far too young to be vaccinated at 1 month. She said that if I took her to the local no-kill shelter (as I'd first planned, because DH is allergic to cats) she would likely pick up the "first thing going around" at the shelter & not survive.

We had just lost our beloved 13-yr-old dog to liver cancer. Already grieving, I just couldn't part with this helpless baby-cat (albeit a "spitfire," even at that tender age). Oddly, she is the only cat ever that didn't cause an allergic response in my husband! (Weird, huh?)

Fast-forward almost 11 years later: Bat-Bat is still hell-on-wheels and a one-person cat (that would be me), in spite of numerous attempts to socialize her w/frequent exposures to friends & family. "Love-bites" are her only way of showing me affection; will let me hold & pet her (and treat her diabetes, thank goodness!) - but only tolerates it for a few minutes before she jumps off my lap, to run to her scratch lounge and "shake off the people."

I'd grown up with kitties (Siamese) and have had others over the years on my own (always just one at a time), but have never experienced such a breathtakingly fractious cat in my life! And yet Bat-Bat has her sweet moments, too ... I under stand her (and somehow, I believe she understands me, too) ... and the simple truth is: I love her with all my heart. And I know that heart will break every bit as much as it would if she were the most gentle kitty in the world, when the day comes that she goes on ahead.
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I had a blue point Siamese, was the same way. Would rub up against you and you would love up on her then the little snit would bite you! She was 17 1/4 when I had to make the decision to let her go, all kinds of issue, kidneys, liver, and pancreas. She had a problem with a v shape colon and would get impaction and I would have to give her enemas ,often towards the end. One day she looked at me while I was trying to get her meds in her and I heard her say, "let me go" It was the hardest thing I ever had to do and I cried for 2 months straight and didn't think I would ever get over it. She was my little "*****-cat" That's love! When they aren't always lovable and we still love them lots. I can relate to yours and Bat-Bat's relationship.
 
Uneventful night. I tested at 5.5+ and he was 152 which made me comfortable through the night. It started storming here in PA around 2AM and I had a neurotic dog to deal with and regret that I did not get another test on Bubba. I did test at 11+ hours and he was 278. So between 5.5+ and 11+ I'm not sure how much he went down. I am suspecting that he bounced a lot from yesterday's low numbers. His AMPS was 291 and he was ready to eat. I think I am holding this dose today to give it a chance to settle in and I have to be away from home from 9am-5 pm. I have a pet sitter and Mom-sitter for a few hours in the middle of the day and she will give him another small meal. Unfortunatly, she isn't comfortable with testing him yet.
 
That sounds like a good idea, Bobbie. You want to hold a dose for three cycles - at a minimum - after you make a change. Sometimes the first cycle is a little wonky. It can be a drastic drop or it can be a little bit high and flat. I'd give him a couple days to see how the increase is working.
 
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Sue and Oliver (GA) said:
That sounds like a good idea, Bobbie. You want to hold a dose for three cycles - at a minimum - after you make a chance. Sometimes the first cycle is a little wonky. It can be a drastic drop or it can be a little bit high and flat. I'd give him a couple days to see how the increase is working.
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okay, will do.
 
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