Neck Meat and Bones in Raw Grind?

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I have not seen any information on whether to use the neck meat and bone when grinding raw food.
Anybody know if it should be avoided due to high mineral content or other reasons?

Thanks guys.
 
Did not see anything on it.

Of course with my severe case of refrigerator blindness... .
 
I use it when I make raw food. I use most of the bones - such as half the back, legs (except for the nubby parts - I chop that off and use in the broth).
 
Bones are going to be higher in phosphorous, but it might not be digestible. Its something to consider if there is a concern regarding crystals or kidney disease.
 
Meya14 said:
Bones are going to be higher in phosphorous, but it might not be digestible. Its something to consider if there is a concern regarding crystals or kidney disease.
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Well shadow has gotten crystals and 1 blockage in the past. His pH was 8.0 on the raw. Which I still have not figured out. So he was on the Hill c/d. However I switch to the Friskies special diet be the Hills DMA analysis had the carbs at around 33.
 
Agree it could be biofilm, also, when they do the culture and sensitivity on the urine, usually a result of >100,000 bacteria is "positive" and <100,000 are "negative" for most bacteria. Negative doesn't always mean no bacteria, just means usually not enough for a UTI. If any bacteria are present, but below the threshold, it can mean there is colonization in the bladder. It's not always a problem, but certain species of bacteria produce enzymes that raise the pH, breakdown wastes, and can precipitate out stones.

If struvite are a problem, and it keeps happening, sometimes it's worth treating without a positive UA to see if you have improvement. Being conservative tho helps prevent superbugs, so it should be only when other things are ruled out.
 
Meya14 said:
Agree it could be biofilm, also, when they do the culture and sensitivity on the urine, usually a result of >100,000 bacteria is "positive" and <100,000 are "negative" for most bacteria. Negative doesn't always mean no bacteria, just means usually not enough for a UTI. If any bacteria are present, but below the threshold, it can mean there is colonization in the bladder. It's not always a problem, but certain species of bacteria produce enzymes that raise the pH, breakdown wastes, and can precipitate out stones.

If struvite are a problem, and it keeps happening, sometimes it's worth treating without a positive UA to see if you have improvement. Being conservative tho helps prevent superbugs, so it should be only when other things are ruled out.
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Hmmmm. Food for thought.
They did put Shadow through 2 series of antibiotics since his blockage.
 
Is there a specific test that would identify a biofilm?
It would be nice to be able to get him off the Friskies special diet and go to all raw.
 
They'd likely need to scrape the lining of the bladder for that, so I doubt it.
 
Really the only way to test is to look if there is ANY bacteria on the UA, then have them do a culture and sensitivity even if initial UA is negative. ANYTHING that grows should be considered for treatment, not just above the threshold. If it is colonization or biofilm, it's likely to be resistant to antibiotics, so it's important that they select an antibiotic based on the Sensitivity report.
 
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