Darnell with Cat Sprocket

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Darnell & Sprocket (GA)

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Hi Everyone, New here, and never thought I would have this issue. My cat, Sprocket, was diagnosed in the beginning of March, or end of February. Not sure, it's a blur, as we almost lost him. Sprocket was losing weight but gradually, I never thought he had diabetes. I thought he had hyperthyroidism, like two cats I had previously. I feel horrible that I missed the signs, he was suffering and I didn't realize it. He got pickier to what he would eat, but then he would chow. Then suddenly he would not eat, and when he looked at you, he appeared to be ready to vomit. I tried giving him a famotidine but it did nothing.
By morning, he was worse. The vet, where we took him the day before, had taken blood tests, but wanted to send them out, so we had to wait till morning. Overnight, I left a message on their machine about him getting worse, and for someone to call me asap. No call, I waited till hour after they opened to call them again, and the vet techs would not give me the results, but they said he wasn't dehydrated. I told them he was worse, and they said the Doc would be in in an hour. I called back in an hour a half, and still no answer. The office person or whomever made me make an appt to bring him in, and when the doctor saw us, she said not to even take him out of the carrier, and showed me the test results. She told me to go to the 24 hour vet, that something was wrong.

We went, the ER vet said if we hadn't of gotten him there within a few hours he would of died. His body was already shutting down. After a couple of tests, they called us back in, before we left there, and told us he had diabetes ketosis, but it was treatable. Sprocket went through hell that week, but he felt better little by little. He came home 7 days later.

It was tough but we learned how to get him to take all his meds, plus how to give him his insulin shots. We are still learning how to take the glucose tests but we are not giving up.
Now, I am learning about feline diabetes, and how do I make him healthier, and help prevent other kitties from getting this disease.

Not sure if I was supposed to write my story but I did.
So I guess I am in need of advice on the food part. How do you know how much sugar there is in cat food? What's better, less fat? Less carbs? Less both?

Thanks alot,
Darnell and Sprocket.
 
Welcome to FDMB.
Most of us are using Cat Info as our guide on feline nutrition and are feeding a low carb, over the counter, canned or raw food.
With 16 cats in the house, I'm feeding Friskies pates to all of them.
Since your cat went into diabetic ketoacidosis, you'll want to get some KetoDiaStix to test the urine for ketones or a blood ketone meter (ex NovaMax or Precision Xtra). See my signature link Secondary Monitoring Tools for other assessments you may find helpful such as dehydration checks.
 
Hi Darnell,
Thanks for sharing Sprocket's story...very scarey, and I'm so glad he recovered!

I joined this forum Mar 9, and did my first home test on 3/16 - a week ago today. Hard to believe what I know now compared to a week ago - the learning curve is straight up, thanks to all the wonderful people here that support and inform you every step of the way.

Good luck with Sprocket!!
ps - be ready with lots of supplies when you do home testing. I went through 60 test strips in this one week! Who woulda thought?
 
Thanks Elizabeth, it's been a 3rd experience for me. 1st experience I learned about pancreatitis, kidney disease, and end stages. 2nd experience I learned about hyperthyroidism, and mouth cancers. A friend of mine said I already knew how to be a vet tech without the surgery stuff. And, now, here I am again. I used Tanyas CKD website and support group, also excellent!
So, 60 test strips!! Yikes. We have tried it about 7 times, only got 2 results. Lol. We can't seem to prick his ear correctly for blood drops to come out enough.
And what idiot put a timer on a diabetic animal glucose meter??!! :mad: Lol Really? Like it's not hard enough to ear prick an animal. People monitors don't have timers, why would animals?
And the test strips & lancets are $$, any way to get inexpensive ones?
Can we get a group rate? :smuggrin:
So how is your kitty doing now? How did u find out? Vet visit or signs?

Now, how do I do this signature thing? Lol
Hmmm

Darnell.
 
Hi Darnell,
I am Vicki and my cat is Elizabeth, but I answer to either name, and many more. ;) I am "Queenie" to my little grandson, and there is a cat named Queenie on here, so I keep going to her threads thinking they are mine. :)
First, what meter are you using? Sounds like it might be an AlphaTrak 2 since you said animal meter, which is what I have. let me know and then I will answer the other questions you have.
 
Hello and welcome. What a scary thing going through DKA, but I'm so glad you got Sprocket through all that. What insulin are you giving now?

As for glucometers, most of us here use the human glucometers. The dosing protocols and methods are written assuming people use human meters, and the test strips are a whole lot cheaper. The Relion Confirm and Mini are two popular models, because they also use a small blood drop like the AlphaTrak. The other thing about human meters is that if you run out of strips, you don't have to wait for the vet's office to open or the mail to be delivered to get more.

Are you warming Sprockets ear before poking it? That helps the blood come. Here is a link to a bunch of Tips on Hometesting.
 
So, 60 test strips!! Yikes. We have tried it about 7 times, only got 2 results. Lol. We can't seem to prick his ear correctly for blood drops to come out enough.
And what idiot put a timer on a diabetic animal glucose meter??!! :mad: Lol Really? Like it's not hard enough to ear prick an animal. People monitors don't have timers, why would animals?
And the test strips & lancets are $$, any way to get inexpensive ones?
Can we get a group rate? :smuggrin:
So how is your kitty doing now? How did u find out? Vet visit or signs?

Now, how do I do this signature thing? Lol

Darnell,
If you are using the AlphaTrak and having problems with the timer, you can put the strip in, but don't push it in all the way. Then get Sprocket's ear ready. You can read that link Wendy sent (so many helpful people and ideas here!).

I just hold Elizabeth's ear between my fingers for about 30 seconds (if that long), push the strip into the meter, which should stay on 2 minutes. Take a cotton ball and put on the back of her ear, and use the lancet, which if you have the one that came with AlphaTrak I love that one. I don't always get blood the first stick, and sometimes it takes a couple sticks (or 3 or 4 :stop:), but the more you do it, the better you get at it. Or, let's put it this way, it becomes less traumatic (for you - not the cat...my cat doesn't seem to care).

I initially followed suggestions of testing the cat in one spot that was comfortable for her and me, but that lasted about a day. I test her wherever she is. If she's napping, I test her there. Most of the time she doesn't even wake up! If she's wandering, I just pet her and get her still and test, sometimes distracting her with a toy. In between testing times I have been petting her more than usual and always rub her ears so she doesn't just associate that with the prick. She no doubt wonders what my obsession is with her ears!

Yes, AlphaTrak strips are so expensive. I was shocked at how many I needed. I wish we could get a group rate! No quantity seems to have a discount!
Everyone advised the human glucometer, due to cost of strips if nothing else, and I will probably be changing to that myself. I had to go with my comfort level to start, and that was AlphaTrak, and for no reason other than my vet uses it, and it's for animals. Many of the numbers used in articles in the forum are for human glucometers, so make those that help you aware that you are using AlphaTrak (they are all very savvy and will ask if it's not on your signature). Some of the articles have conversions to AlphaTrak, but not many.

To put information in the Signature (you do have some information there, but you asked...), just click on your name on the upper right hand side of the banner and a drop down menu will appear. Choose Signature, and insert information.

According to people here watching and helping me, my cat Liz is doing wonderfully. They think she might not be on insulin much longer, and I hope they are right! :D Last November Elizabeth was drinking more and peeing a lot. I took her to the vet and at that time her glucose was normal, but she had a bladder infection. They sent me home with liquid antibiotics, and although Liz will let me prick her ears 19 times a day, she's not taking medicine, no way, no how. So I always wondered if the infection was cured due to the miniscule amount of antibiotics that actually went into her mouth.

Fast forward to Feb and I was getting ready to go out of town and I noticed she was drinking more, and peeing more. Thinking the bladder infection had flared up, I took her to the vet and this time her glucose was in the 400's. I had to board her since I was going out of town, and I did that for 10 days. The vet started her shots but never got her regulated. I brought her home and was giving her 2U of Lantus 2x a day. I took her to the vet clinic 2 times over a 2 week period for glucose test. First time still in 400's, second time high 200's. He advised going to 3u in the morning, so that if she got into trouble I could bring her in. After reading a lot I wonder if the infection made her diabetic.

Once I started reading, I realized I needed to take her off the dry food, but not until I started home monitoring, and I not comfortable upping the dose to 3u until I had more information, so I never tried the 3u dose. I did start home monitoring a week ago today.

Good luck with getting some good tests! I believe you can also prick the foot pad, or that higher pad thingy on the front legs (whatever that's called), if the ears are a problem. There is information on that out there, or just ask and someone who knows will help you.

Sorry this is so long. When I first started I was anxious for feedback and replies to my messages, and I had some wonderful replies. I can't advise on anything important, but I can welcome you and share my personal experience and story since you asked.:bighug:
 
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