2/2 Rosa AMPS 143 +3 86 +4 88 +5 117 +6 149 +7.5 174 PMPS 286 +2 228 +5 48 +5.5 55 +6 45

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Really Rosa - no full on bounce this morning? I was expecting a much, much higher reading at this point. In that case, reduced dose immediately for you!! :D So, so nearly tested the wrong cat this morning - Regan was in Rosa's usual place and Rosa was sleeping on a different chair - that would have given my half-asleep self a heart attack first thing in the morning :P I'm sure they do it deliberately ;)

OK, btb for a couple of hours - looks like I'll have to be around for most of the day once she gets to about +3 or +4 in case she does it again so catching up while I can.
 
That's a great start to the day. When I first reduced my dose I remember being advised that

1) the higher dose will still be affecting this cycle and for the next few. So if she goes low tonight it doesn't necessarily mean she gets another reduction.
2) you want to keep her from dropping below 50 if possible by steering her numbers with food. Whilst it's great to see a cat reduce in dose you ideally don't want them having reductions in quick succession as you are aiming for a strong remission and for that you want their blood glucose to be in the greens for a while.

If I have this wrong someone please correct me :)
 
Thank you all :) Looks like she's on a mission - I'm not seeing any sign at all of a bounce and she's back down to 86 at +3. Going to check again in an hour so I have time to give her some extra carbs before her usual nadir if she needs them.
 
Testing every hour at the moment to try and catch her if she starts to drop much lower - I'd rather she doesn't go under 50 again just yet!! I think she's trying to kill me from exhaustion now as her little heart attack tactic by switching with Regan didn't quite work in the end this morning ;)
 
Rosa is doing great! :D And so did you last night.

I remember someone giving insulin to the wrong cat. It turned out OK but there was a lot of panic. Maybe a cute green collar for Rosa?
 
Thank you :D She's feeling very pleased with herself today :) Unfortunately, I don't think either of them would wear a collar - fortunately I can tell them apart once I look properly as Regan has a much skinnier tail and also has a little white patch on her chest - that's how she avoided being tested this morning...I saw the white as I was getting her settled for testing. Although they're twins, Regan has much tighter skin so I would know if I tried to give the insulin to the wrong cat at least. I do think Rosa would look good in a green collar but persuading her to wear one would be a different matter altogether! :P
 
Hmm - so I heard back from the vet just a few minutes ago. How strange - they want me to use a glucometer specifically for cats...which they can order for me ;) I told them they can get me a price and then I'll decide - taking the 'smile and nod' attitude at the moment. They weren't aware of the TR protocol at all - wanted to know if it was designed by professionals and where I was getting the information from. I'm not at all sure they were happy that I'm adjusting the dose myself, though as they'd have had her on 2 units from the start I'd have had a lot more problems with that than one episode of slightly low BG. Oh, and apparently she should have been showing very definite signs of hypo at 40 last night - well, she wasn't. I know because I was here! :P I have the feeling they're really not happy with what I'm doing but as it's working for Rosa I'm going to keep right on doing exactly what I'm doing because it's helping her.
 
Oh, and apparently I'm over-testing too...though they've seen the numbers and how they think it'd be safe for me to not test when I see her down into the 80's or lower I'm really not sure
 
Thank you - it's my favorite club to be in with just about anything when I know I've got better and more up to date information than the 'expert' who's trying to tell me I'm doing it wrong! ;)
 
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Well, I'll let her play on it for a bit - I could use a decent night's sleep. ;) No doubt she'll get back down into the better colors in the next day or so.
 
Sleep well tonight - save it for another day. ;) My vet uses the OneTouch Ultra in her office. Says it compares well with the lab results. A few weeks after I started testing (they told me to just get a meter that uses a small drop of blood), she asked me if I wanted to use the AlphaTrak. Umm really? I gave her the raised eyebrow. :p At least she was interested in where I managed to find cheaper strips.
 
Could be worse - she's not still going higher at +2. I'll check her one more time before bed just in case - as long as she's doing well then we can have a night off from testing I think :)

I was reading reviews on the various meters earlier on after the call with the vet. Most of them said that any meter is just fine as long as you know to adjust the numbers for a human meter, but that the animal only meters tend to break or be faulty more often. I'd rather use something reliable that I and everyone here understands the numbers on easily - the vet isn't the one here at 3am when I need to check what to do next!! I've let them go ahead and get a price - they're going to call me back at the end of the week - but there's no way I'm buying a meter from them when I've got a perfectly good one already that I can get strips for 5 minutes away if I run out.

I have sent them some links to the research on how well home testing and tight regulation works in cats so hopefully I might even help them learn for other kitties too. I think she realized in the end that she wasn't really getting anywhere - she'd asked me if I'd used syrup to bring Rosa's BG up last night and seemed shocked that I'd only used the gravy out of a can of hc food. Then she said I should only be doing paw pad testing as they think it's more accurate than ear testing (personally, I tried both at the same test once and got the same numbers) but I think that was more of a case of getting the last word in than anything else. ;)
 
Oops - glad I took that last reading before going to sleep...well, I was going to sleep until I tested her. :P Giving a little hc gravy...
 
Gave more gravy at +5.5. Takes her a while to eat it as she likes to lick it straight from the spoon a little at a time. Checking again in 30 minutes...hopefully she'll continue coming back up slowly now
 
how you going? You look like you're doing alright, if she doesn't start coming up over 50 at the next test add a couple of drops on honey to the gravy - that threat worked last night!
 
Exhausted, but hanging in there - I really hoped from her PMPS that she'd give us a night off from this tonight. Apparently she had way too much fun keeping us up last night!! I was thinking honey at the next test if she's not over 50 so thank you for confirming. She's still perfectly happy with herself...despite what the vet told me earlier today she really shows no sign at all of hypo in the 40's. Love the way they thought I was just missing her being disoriented and not recognizing the problem...I know straight away if she's not acting like herself!
 
Because Lantus is a depot insulin the dose reduction doesn't always take effect immediately - I think we can officially welcome you (and hubby) to the lantus land zombie club now!
 
Ok, she's up to 69 now. Going to wait and test again in half an hour and then offer her some lc to see if that'll keep her in good numbers until morning. Someone did mention this morning that it might take 3 days for the decrease to have full effect. I was kind of hoping for a bounce that lasted longer than 2 hours, but of course this is good for her so we'll deal with it. ;)

Thank you - we certainly feel like zombies right about now. Rosa doesn't care - she's loving the attention.
 
You are doing so well, she is looking so good:) of course if she drops under 50 again give the hc. With her being a free feeder you could just put her food down and see if she wants to help herself. She's probably passing nadir now anyway. Vyktor was always free fed - it was very handy sometimes when he'd go to his bowl and demolish what was in it I knew he needed a test!
 
The hc is still on the desk next to me in case she needs it again, but she's due her next test in a few minutes anyway. If she's still rising slowly, I'll give her the lc then to see if she'll eat some of that to keep her steady. I'm hoping she's past nadir at +7 even if only just.
 
And up to 85. Hopefully she's past the worst now (anti-jinx) ;) Giving her some lc and then I'll test her again before we call it a night
 
Oh, it is by far the best for her. The more healing she can do the better it's going to be for all of us in the end. :D Just good to see her come back up just a little into the darker greens now - a couple of hours all the way down in the 40's and 50's is enough at any one time I think.
 
It would, wouldn't it...but then that wouldn't be my Rosa at all - she does like to be difficult! ;)

Oh, I know. That would've killed me for sure. And Regan was going to let me do it too - she didn't even try to get away :P Though once Rosa's got past all these crazy hours she's making us keep, I might run a couple of tests on Regan too now and then just to make sure everything's working as it should with her. I've no reason to think it isn't, but then we had no idea there was anything wrong with Rosa until a few days before her diagnosis either.
 
Still hanging around in the green zone - she's at 82. Thinking of setting an alarm for an hour and taking a nap - I don't think she's going to drop again, but I'm not 100% sure of that either
 
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