1/29 Tabitha PMPS 137; +2 72; +4 77; +6 127 (newbie)

Status
Not open for further replies.
Sharon&Tabitha (TX)

Sharon&Tabitha (TX)

Member Since 2015
Please note SS; we are just getting started on this; she is @ 181 now and getting ready for her shot. I could not get a test first so Iduring right after eating, 1/2 can FF. Normally I test mid cycle (not wanting to stress either of us out more than I have to). When should I test during this cycle?
 
It's always a good idea to get at least a +2 test if you can so you can get an idea if Tabitha will go up or down during the cycle. If she's lower than AMPS, it could be an active cycle and you'd want to watch her and test more often if you are home.
 
I'm taking this day to day. I've already sent them a message to give work a heads up. I stayed home Monday &Tuesday; worked afternoon Wednesday. What day is today? Lol

Thanks
 
Welcome to FDMB! You've found the best place you never hoped you'd have to be.

You may need to change the settings on your spreadsheet; right now it's telling me I need permission to view it. And that spreadsheet is really important to anyone trying to see where Tabitha's been and where she might be going.

Have you read the protocols for either TR (tight regulation) or SLGS (start low go slow) methods. They're in the yellow-marked stickies at the top of the forum. Excellent starting place.

Testing. Well, minimally, pre shot, mid cycle (varying it around a bit from day to day). Perhaps a bit more in the beginning when you're trying to figure out what happens during Tabitha's cycle.

Others with more knowledge and experience will be around with their welcomes, too.

Marilyn and Polly
 
Well, each cat is different (ECID). Usually, food will impact BG's in 15-30 minutes and the impact will wane until about two hours post eating.

But since ECID, collecting data (testing BGs) is the best way to figure out how your kitty responds.

Marilyn and Polly
 
If my SS isn't working
1/27 amps 390 .25 units; +6 389 (must not have gotten anything)
pmps 400 .5 units; +6 326
1/28 amps 376 .5 units; +6 235
Pmps 516 .5 units; +6 213
1/29 amps 181 .5 units; +2.5 144 (could get am test until right after she ate 1.5 oz; ate another .3 about. 20 minutes before +2.5 test)
When should I test again?
Should I try to go to work or just get some sleep?
Breath
 
I think you need to set the access permission on your spreadsheet. On the top right, there's a blue box that's labeled "Share." If you click on that, it will give you the option to share your SS with anyone who has the link. In order for us to see your SS, the sharing option needs to be active.

Do you know when Tabitha's nadir typically occurs? (Keep in mind, it's not always at +6 for every cat.) If you've not been seeing lower numbers on a regular basis, I'd suggest testing at +4 or +5.

(BTW, on 1/27, I wouldn't assume that you didn't "get anything" because there wasn't variation in the numbers.)
 
I just checked +6 is at 58. What do I need to do? I've kept her bowl full with lc ff. She's. Ate a whole can already this morning. Do I need to give her ff gravy lovers? I have Karo on stand by. Right now she doesn't seem hungry.
 
Last edited:
I would check her again in about an hour and see where she is then. You want to keep her over 50, but don't need to intervene with karo just yet.
 
Has she eaten any low carb food lately? I'd give her a couple of tsps of her regular food and test again in 1/2 hour. Giving low carb at this point can encourage them to "surf" along these nice normal numbers. The longer she spends in normal numbers, the better for her pancreas. But you do want to test again to catch if she goes below 50. It's below 50 that we suggest the high carb food or karo.

The spreadsheet still needs permissions changed. Sienne gave you the instructions above.
 
She has had a whole can of ff this morning but she doesn't seem interested right now. Should I syringe feed the food the vet gave me this weekend?
 
Hi. I think this is my first time here. She is surfing, which is really good, as the numbers are essentially the same. There can be a 20% meter variance higher or lower.
 
When they "surf" they hang out around the same number (within variance) for a while. It usually means they aren't going to head down much, if any more.
 
Breath; the two of us are still trying to get a hang of the testing. When should I test again? What number should she be at for pmps to be safe?
 
Surfing is better than going in the deep end and needing water wings. :D

It's really help us help you when we can see that spreadsheet.
 
Hi

Just wanted to pop in am say you are doing really well.

I just had a peak at your spreadsheet and I must admit I am a little confused. I can see it okay but all of the blank squares are green. Hopefully someone can help you out with it. Don't forget to add in today's numbers.
 
If my SS isn't working
1/27 amps 390 .25 units; +6 389 (must not have gotten anything)
pmps 400 .5 units; +6 326
1/28 amps 376 .5 units; +6 235
Pmps 516 .5 units; +6 213
1/29 amps 181 .5 units; +2.5 144 (could get am test until right after she ate 1.5 oz; ate another .3 about. 20 minutes before +2.5 test)
+6 58; +7 60; +9 80

The vet didn't want me to shoot if amps was below 180 and pmps below 90. My guess is to not shoot this evening?
 
She may still be above 90 at PMPS time. It's hard to read your SS, but did you just start insulin two days ago? I don't see any of today's values in the spreadsheet either. Normally when we start Lantus, we stick with the starting dose for 5-7 days. From the protocol sticky:
"General" Guidelines:
Hold the initial starting dose for 5 - 7 days (10 - 14 consecutive cycles) unless the numbers tell you otherwise.
Click to expand...
Lantus is a depot insulin, so it takes time to build up that depot. I think maybe go back to .25 units and stay at that dose for the 5 days, unless she goes below 50.

Did you create the spreadsheet following the instructions here?
 
phlika29 said:
Hi

Just wanted to pop in am say you are doing really well.

I just had a peak at your spreadsheet and I must admit I am a little confused. I can see it okay but all of the blank squares are green. Hopefully someone can help you out with it. Don't forget to add in today's numbers.
Click to expand...

I was able to view it the normal way just by clicking the open in the middle of the window. It doesn't appear to be updated for 1/28 PM or anything for today.
 
@Sharon&Tabitha (TX)

I am no expert, and if you have ready Sami's condo you will know that I am on the edge of the ledge most of the time right now, but I am inclined to agree with Wendy on dropping to .25 and holding. But this is going to be a personal decision. If you look at Sami's spreadsheet you will see that twice in the last couple of years she needed insulin and both times within 2 shots of fresh insulin she naturally regulated and didn't need another shot. So you have to see how Tabitha is doing and make the best decision for you and Tabitha.

As other experts have probably, or will probably mention, it is important to support the pancreas with insulin as long as you can to give it time to heal from whatever caused it to stop functioning. If you look back at 2010 for Sami you will see that we held at a very small .1 unit for a couple of days before finally doing the OTJ trial. Sami and I owe her successful trip to the Falls to everyone that helps on this board, and I am hoping to get her back to the Falls very soon.

Surfing is good when it is in the green! As you will also be told the sooner you can get her to surf in the green the better probability that she will make it to the Falls and OTJ.
 
I did update it and when I click onto the link in my signature it has today's numbers. The only thing I can think of is to try to attach the URL link again but I'm not sure about doing it on the tablet. I need to get something for my headache.
 
I was a little concern with the .25; being new; I just didn't think I had the skills to properly load the syringe even with the region half unit markings. I'm already having to use my reading glasses. How in the world do you do .10? I wouldn't mind going back to .25. Are there any tips on filling syringe?
 
The vet said test again @ +11 and if it is below the last reading (+9 80) then don't give the pm injection but if it is above the 80 to inject .25 units. Sounds reasonable to me but I'm just a newbie:banghead:
 
Are you going to be able to test her during the evening cycle? I would definitely drop back to the .25 units if you give the shot tonight.
 
On the top right, there's a blue box that's labeled "Share." If you click on that, it will give you the option to share your SS with anyone who has the link. In order for us to see your SS, the sharing option needs to be active.
Click to expand...

These are not the correct instructions because we don't "share" the SS for other members to look at; we publish it and they are two different processes with different results. Please refer to the post on How to Create a SS and Link it to your Signature.

In the meantime, I'm trying to help Sharon get the SS fixed.
 
Ok....all fixed!!! :):):):)

Good job today with those numbers. See where she is at PMPS...she's coming up but could get a second dip on lantus and come back down a little bit. However, she shouldn't come down lower than her nadir of 58. If she's back down a bit, you might want to stall without feeding and post right away to discuss whether to shoot or skip, as Wendy suggested.
 
Tabitha had been laying on me grooming her which was nice to see. Took her +2 test. (72) which I hope the SS reflects. Thanks @Marje and Gracie and everyone else. I couldn't have done it with out you.

I shot .25 units (boy that's tough making sure I filled it accurately). She is sleeping know. Being 72 when should I test next?
 
You're doing great, Sharon. I know you feel overwhelmed right now. When I first started, everyone told me that in a month, I'd have a much better understand of things and feel more confident. They were right. The experienced people on here will steer you the right way.
 
Tabitha is @ 77 +4

When should I test again? I hate to keep asking but I just haven't been at this, three days, long enough and I want to be safe.
 
Looks like a green surf so far, but If it were me I would get a +5 and repost current numbers in your subject line to draw some attention just in case. Your subject line right now is only updated to amps+11 and it is now pmps+4. And dont worry about posting.. thats what the board is for. It can be worrisome when your starting out.
 
Nice surf you got going there!!

If she'll eat a little, you could give her another snack of her regular low carb food and get a test at +6...if she's still surfing you'd probably be good for some sleep!
 
Boy I'm tired; Tabitha wasn't cooperating on this last test but patients and determination prevailed. She only ate a little this last time around. She's eating now. We are done for the night? Will do a .25 dose in the am.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top