New Diagnosis, I'm massacring my kitty's ears and need bg curve advice

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89 at +6.5 3:20am

AlphaTrak numbers so far:
PMPS of 63 at 9 pm (roughly 41 on a human meter)
+3 of 59 at 12 midnight (roughly 38 on a human meter) - too low.
+4 of 86 at 1am (roughly 55 on a human meter)
+4.5 of 72 at 1:30 am (about 47 on a human meter)
+5 of 70 at 2:00 am (about 45.5 on a human meter)
+5.5 of 95 at 2:30 am (about 62 on a human meter) - could be the Karo somewhat
81 at + 6.5 (3:40am)
 
bettyandhank said:
Do you have ice cream? I didn't realize 2 hrs ago.... Yes, try some licks of ice cream....would she go for that?
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Oh thank you thank you so much. She seems fine still, I really don't want people to have to stay up with me. She just doesn't want to eat- she gets like this, she's never been a gobbler. I have a small and large feeding syringe for worst case scenario, am ready to go to ER, but I hope I've passed the nadir.

I actually don't have any dairy products Im lactose intolerant. If she won't lick the tuna juice, I don't think I can get her to eat anything. She might eat dry with tuna juice over it. After each test, she goes into the bedroom and jumps on the bed where she seems fine.
 
We need to get her to eat a little more....did you see my suggestion for ice cream? Is dry something she will eat no matter what? If you can try ice cream, or similar. If she won't eat her canned, then may have to give a bit of dry. Will likely make her numbers high tomorrow but that's OK.
I have no idea when her nadir is, it very well may have past but not enough data to know for sure
 
bettyandhank said:
How long ago was last test?
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89 at +6.5 3:20am
AlphaTrak numbers so far:
PMPS of 63 at 9 pm (roughly 41 on a human meter)
+3 of 59 at 12 midnight (roughly 38 on a human meter) - too low.
+4 of 86 at 1am (roughly 55 on a human meter)
+4.5 of 72 at 1:30 am (about 47 on a human meter)
+5 of 70 at 2:00 am (about 45.5 on a human meter)
+5.5 of 95 at 2:30 am (about 62 on a human meter) - could be the Karo somewhat
81 at + 6.5 (3:40am)
Elizabeth and Bertie said:
Good morning from the UK.
Another pair of eyes here if necessary. (Just going to read back through the thread)

Eliz
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Thank you
 
Oh ....where is the love button? Thank you Elizabeth!!! Big problem now is we don't know when she nadirs, not enough data... And she won't eat, has had very little since 1.5 hours BEFORE her shot.
I was so worried cause I was fading so glad you are here
 
Martha, most kitties are ravenous when they get in real low numbers...they can get overfull when having to continue being fed over a long period, but very unusual that Martha had almost no appetite at all through this.
We need to get some High carb fancy feast in gravy for your hypo kit for future.
 
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AlphaTrak numbers so far:
PMPS of 63 at 9 pm (roughly 41 on a human meter)
+3 of 59 at 12 midnight (roughly 38 on a human meter) - too low.
+4 of 86 at 1am (roughly 55 on a human meter)
+4.5 of 72 at 1:30 am (about 47 on a human meter)
+5 of 70 at 2:00 am (about 45.5 on a human meter)
+5.5 of 95 at 2:30 am (about 62 on a human meter)
+6.5 of 81 at 3:20 am (about 53 on a human meter)

(sorry; fell asleep despite Bruce Willis movie on TV!!!)

Glad you're with us Elizabeth.
 
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Maybe you fell asleep BECAUSE of the Bruce Willis movie. Lol! (and the fact it is 4AM). This kitty is just surfing these numbers for hours.
 
From the 70 @ +5 to the 89 @ + 6.5 is just over a 20% increase (meter error variance), so I think she's coming up now.

Scratch that; mistyped - it was 81 (or 53 on a human meter)
 
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Yes Karo, but over 1.5 hours. Got to keep going a bit longer.
Mis-typed number, sorry.


Having some chocolate hazelnut decaf tea, plus peppermint; I was starting to get cold which makes me sleepy!
 
Folks I am crashing... Eliz you are here even if BJ falls asleep, right? It's a saner hour in UK, yes.
If nothing else and kitty still won't eat then maybe leave some dry out as safety net?....what do you think...still necessary even?

Martha what a great job!!! You're in great hands. Hugs to you and Lolly:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
I think its one of the Die Hard movies, about the hacker attacks.

Good thing tomorrow today is a holiday for me.
 
AlphaTrak numbers so far:
PMPS of 63 at 9 pm (roughly 41 on a human meter)
+3 of 59 at 12 midnight (roughly 38 on a human meter) - too low.
+4 of 86 at 1am (roughly 55 on a human meter)
+4.5 of 72 at 1:30 am (about 47 on a human meter)
+5 of 70 at 2:00 am (about 45.5 on a human meter)
+5.5 of 95 at 2:30 am (about 62 on a human meter) - could be the Karo somewhat
89 at +6.5 3:20am
81 at + 6.5 (3:40am)

I just checked the glucometer with the control solution - it's fine. Doing another bg now.
 
What's the latest? I can stay now until whatever time. Are we up to around +6.5 with the last karo (tsp) at +5 and due for another test?
 
She's getting another test now.
AlphaTrak numbers so far:
PMPS of 63 at 9 pm (roughly 41 on a human meter)
+3 of 59 at 12 midnight (roughly 38 on a human meter) - too low.
+4 of 86 at 1am (roughly 55 on a human meter)
+4.5 of 72 at 1:30 am (about 47 on a human meter)
+5 of 70 at 2:00 am (about 45.5 on a human meter)
+5.5 of 95 at 2:30 am (about 62 on a human meter)
+6.5 of 89 at 3:20 am (about 58 on a human meter)
+6.6 of 81 at 3:40 am (about 53 on a human meter)
+7.5 of ___ at 4:40 am (about ___ on a human meter)
 
bettyandhank said:
Folks I am crashing... Eliz you are here even if BJ falls asleep, right? It's a saner hour in UK, yes.
If nothing else and kitty still won't eat then maybe leave some dry out as safety net?....what do you think...still necessary even?
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Betty, I'm fine to stay around. (9.30am here and I'm at home today).
Get some sleepzzzzzzzzz........

And YES it is still important to keep an eye on Lolly. As Marje said earlier Lantus can drop kitties' BG quite late on into the cycle. So, ideally, we want to see three rising numbers.

Regarding dry food, yes it can be helpful sometimes. In fact there is the option of getting longer-acting carbs into the cat and just 'aborting the cycle'; especially if someone is new to dealing with diabetes.
 
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AlphaTrak numbers so far:
PMPS of 63 at 9 pm (roughly 41 on a human meter)
+3 of 59 at 12 midnight (roughly 38 on a human meter) - too low.
+4 of 86 at 1am (roughly 55 on a human meter)
+4.5 of 72 at 1:30 am (about 47 on a human meter)
+5 of 70 at 2:00 am (about 45.5 on a human meter)
+5.5 of 95 at 2:30 am (about 62 on a human meter)
+6.5 of 89 at 3:20 am (about 58 on a human meter)
+6.6 of 81 at 3:40 am (about 53 on a human meter)
+7.5 51 at 4:40 am (about 33 on a human meter) dropping - more Karo
 
Have you got an oral syringe?
Ok, good.

Make a bit of a slurry and add a small amount of low carb to the Karo. This will start getting some protein in which breaks down in a more sustained fashion.
 
Is there any other source of carbs in the house that she might eat? Doesn't matter what it is if she will eat it.

You may need to take her to ER vet. If it were my kitty I'd be seriously considering that now.
If you go, then take some karo with you. And try to phone ahead or get someone to do that for you.
 
I am still here. I'd re-test that for accuracy...that's a 30 pt drop in hour. Unlikley except maybe due to so little food. I'd pull the dry out and pour tuna juice on it....
 
Kitty was at 55 yesterday cycle. But still would re-check this number. Martha said earlier one thing Lolly will always eat is dry with tuna juice. I say put the bowl out for her. She will be high tomorrow but who cares now
 
Please tell us the retest number.

And how much Karo you got into her? (And time)

And how much food, if any?

If you retested, how long after the Karo and or food?
 
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