Alska survived catsitter no-show

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I left early Christmas morning and returned midday the next day to find the cans of unopened food, instructions, money and pre-filled syringes untouched. Alska's bg was at 338 and rapidly returned to the blues after restarting insulin. He missed 3 meals and 2 shots. My civvies are still stressed and insecure. They freak when I go near the front door.

After finding out that the catsitter was alive and well I broke down in sobs because after all the preparation and confirming with sitter on Christmas Eve, I still let them down.

I am a little dismayed about the consolidation of groups here. If the only responses I get are to get mid-cycle tests then this group won't work for me as the relaxed group did but I will continue to read and comment on Health. I most likely will no longer post condos.

My efforts with Alska are for regulation and comfort instead of OTJ. He went untreated for a long time before being rescued and fostered. He only allows one part of one ear for testing and we occasionally get mid-cycle tests only on weekends if he is not bouncing.
 
you're the second person I've heard of recently who had a petsitter not show up despite having confirmed. That's so upsetting and I'm glad your kitties are ok.

This forum is for people using any kind of regulation or routine for Lantus and Levemir. I don't think everyone has gotten used to that idea yet. It is perfectly fine to remind people that you're here to share, but are not looking for advice at this time. Once everyone knows each other, I don't think you'll have to say it anymore.
 
Hopefully over the next couple of days the civvies will start to feel more secure. For all of the preparation you did, it heartbreaking to see that you were let down like this.

The new board and the consolidation of groups is taking a bit of getting used to. I think one of the challenges is that the old TR group had a lot more posts then the RL group and as such people are making the presumption that everyone posting here is following TR when they may not be. I don't know what the solution is, maybe adding the protocol everyone is following to their signature?

Also, I did look at Alska's spreadsheet. Google docs is giving me a warning telling me that the document is in the owner's trash. You may want to look at moving it out of the trash in Google Drive so it doesn't accidently get deleted and you loose all of your data.
 
How horrifying, cruel, and unethical that your cat sitter did not show up. I am so sorry you and your kitties had to go through that...honestly, I am shocked that someone could do such a thing.

The consolidation of the forums really is beneficial to all of us. We all share the same insulin, the same concerns, and can face the same issues. Should anyone find themselves in an emergency situation, since the forums are now combined, there are going to be a lot more eyes readily available to help. In addition to that, by posting in the same forum, we're more familiar with each other's histories and goals, not to mention we can all learn a lot from each other.

While mid-cycle tests are an important part of TR, they really are an important part of any diabetic kitty's routine. For TR, we use those tests to determine dose adjustments. But any kitty on insulin, whether following TR or not, is "at risk" for a hypo event. We have seen kitties drop from the 400s to the 40s in just a few hours, so anything is possible and no two kitties are alike in how they respond to insulin. So when folks ask for more mid-cycle tests, it is truly out of a safety concern above all else. And, without mid-cycle tests, it really is impossible to offer any sort of advice, because doing so could put a kitty's safety at risk. So we may seem like we are nagging or trying to force people into the TR routine, but that really isn't the case. (We've always had quite a few SLGS kitties in the TR forum before the consolidation.) We can't help it...we worry about each other's kitties!
 
Robin

So sorry that you and the kitties went through that and on Christmas to boot. I'm with you however about the consolidation of the two groups and why I'm also leaving the ISGs if not the board entirely. I've tried over the 5 years that I have been on this board to be comfortable over here and it hasn't happened yet. Autumn is never going into remission so I don't even try for holding her tightly in low numbers. She's 18 and been through Hell and back before becoming a pampered house cat. So she will not have a condo here ever. I will miss many of my friends on this board but this is no longer a place that I feel comfortable posting a daily condo for my girl.

Mel and The Fur Gang
 
Is there somewhere you can report that pet sitter to? Better Business Bureau, FB, something? Your poor babies! If this person is a professional pet sitter, they need to be put out of business!

I'm finding the combined forums a little confusing too. Adding the protocol to everyone's signature is a great idea. I find myself wondering why people did things at certain BG readings, then I realize that that was the correct move for the protocol they are following. I'm a relative newbie, so it's hard for me to figure out what protocol someone's using from their spreadsheet. I've found myself many times wondering if I've messed up, the realizing that I'm just confusing protocols.
 
morning! too am so sorry you had that happen. How incredible that the pet sitter did not show, Just depressing all around. I believe in time your kitties will understand what did happen,and can feel more secure. Lots of love for them!

I do hope you'll stick around. The new FDMB takes some adjusting for all of us. I'd just remind folks what your goals are, I believe that folks here will respect that. Bottom line is that you have to do what is right for you. best wishes to you and Alska .
 
My oh my, do we have some 'splaining to do. I am so sorry to read about your pet sitter not showing up. I am sure your kitties will forgive you quickly, they know how much you love them. But for the pet sitter, no excuses! The new board will take adjustment from us all. We don't post a condo anymore, since our beloved Zener crossed the bridge in October, but we still visit almost everyday. We knew our guy was never going OTJ and he was never very regulated, along with FD he had IBD and CKD and was born with cerebellar hypoplasia, but we found the insulin support group for TR the lantus choice when we joined FDMB. We always felt welcome and our choices for our guy were well respected. We hope if you find the information here helpful for your cat, you will stay too.

Anne
 
That's an awful experience. So glad you weren't gone longer.... poor kitties....
"mom, where's the can opener?"
When we used to leave, it was for a week, I can't imagine having a no show. I get annoyed at mine who doesn't change the water on the day I'm coming home.
It has been hard to adjust with this new board.
I used to always click on view your own posts so I can see who I responded to and whether or not they had come back.... can't figure that out now.
I sure hope all of you who are unhappy will stay with us.
 
((((Robin))))
What a horrifying experience. Thank goodness you were not gone for overly long. Frankly, not having my cat sitter show up is something that terrifies me. However you found this person, I know if I made the referral, I'd appreciate the feedback. Tell your vet. Post on Yelp. Whatever it takes to let others know that this person is irresponsible sounds well deserved.

Like the others, I do hope you'll hang around. As others noted, because the greater number of people are using TR it's an assumption that TR is what most people are following. It's very helpful and something we have encouraged, to ask people to add that they are following SLGS to their signature. It's an extremely helpful reminder -- just like having people note if they are using an AlphaTrack meter or if they have a crazy work schedule and can't get mid-cycle tests on work days.

Like Amy noted, the request for a spot check is more an issue of using Lantus or Lev than only the requirements of the TR protocol. Dosing with the longer acting types of insulin is based on the BG reading at the lowest point in the cycle. If you are not looking for dosing input, that's fine (and that could be an addition to your sig line). Again, it's a presumption that most people want feedback about dosing and not solely support. The bottom line, however, is that we're here for you and Alska. You just need to let us know (and at least in my case, a gentle reminder doesn't hurt) of what your needs are.
 
I'd be inclined to sue that pet sitter and report her to everyone I could so she couldn't work that type of job any more!
 
Robin

So sorry that you and the kitties went through that and on Christmas to boot. I'm with you however about the consolidation of the two groups and why I'm also leaving the ISGs if not the board entirely. I've tried over the 5 years that I have been on this board to be comfortable over here and it hasn't happened yet. Autumn is never going into remission so I don't even try for holding her tightly in low numbers. She's 18 and been through Hell and back before becoming a pampered house cat. So she will not have a condo here ever. I will miss many of my friends on this board but this is no longer a place that I feel comfortable posting a daily condo for my girl.

Mel and The Fur Gang

Yup I agree too which is why I am really glad Silver is OTJ in time before this change. Its too confusing and we have to wade through all the TR condos to find our Relaxed peeps. Hope you had a good Christmas Mel and a Happy New Year to you.
Juliet and Silver - who is doing very well - his legs are getting stronger every day.
 
Robin

I'm so very sorry about the petsitter situation. You did everything you could. I'm just glad your baby is safe.

Those of us in TR totally understand that the vibe was different in Relaxed and that you all are also a very close-knit group. We don't want to change that; we'd love for you to become part of our family here. The people here are very sweet and caring; if you don't want input, we will respect that. If you just need the support, just tell us but it would be helpful if there was something in your signature block whether it be "SLGS" or "Relaxed" or whatever just so we remember to respect your wishes. I hope you and Mel and all the others will stay.....
 
That's my number one fear with pet sitters... that they won't show up! Yikes.
I'm glad your kitties are ok!


Regarding this forum...
I just posted this reminder in the New Group ~ New Friends ~ New Year ~ Happy Holidays! thread and I'm copying it here because it's important for all to understand:


"Bumping this post to remind members this is a NEW forum... we have not added forums to the TR forum.

This is the new home of everyone using Lantus or Levemir... no matter which method of achieving regulation fits your needs. You're all new to this forum!

I've seen several members suggest adding "SLGS" to your signature if you're following the Start Low, Go Slow Approach for regulating your kitty. By the same token, it would be helpful if those practicing a Tight Regulation Protocol add TR to your signature. Insulin used helps, too. Speaking of signatures... Robert has set the signature limit to 3 lines. Please make necessary adjustments.

Thanks for your patience. There's always a learning curve when doing something new. Trust me, we're all feeling it!"
:D



I hope you'll welcome each other and become friends. I hope each and every one of you will stick around. Each of you adds something special to the group!
 
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((((Robin))))
Hi
so good to see you !!! that is terrible about the petsitter. what a horrible thing for them to do. have u talked to them? did the person get sick or something. no excuse tho. thank god u weren't away longer. i know the people on the TR board are awesome people but yes it is a little difficult as it feels like we have joined the TR board and can't find the relaxed members anymore. great idea to post the protocol we follow. i hope all the relaxed people don't just leave. maybe we can put slgs in our condo heading or something but it is true that there are lots more posts now. it is nice to see new people tho but a bit sad because we don't know everyone so well. i was thinking the other day, is there some way to.post a mini history of everyone so we can all catch up on beans & their kitties... maybe that will help to get to know everyone? just a thought. we'll figure it all out but i just hope relaxed people don't stop posting but i totally understand if you do. if you click watch thread, then you get alerts for condos you want to follow. maybe that would help.
have a great day everybody. old & new friends.
 
i was thinking the other day, is there some way to.post a mini history of everyone so we can all catch up on beans & their kitties... maybe that will help to get to know everyone? just a thought.

This is a great idea....I'm going to start an "Introductions" condo right now!
 
I, too, am appalled that a cat sitter would abandon innocent and helpless cats! I find this incredible! I'm so glad your kitties are OK, Robin!
I think we can all take to heart Jill's message about this Lantus & Levemir group being for all of us who use Lantus or Levemir. We are all new members of the new support group. We are here to support each other. Before there was a Relaxed Lantus group (not very long ago) Lantus users (and many Lev. users) shared a single Lantus group. I don't remember that we pigeonholed anything or anyone. If someone needed help, or just wanted a sympathetic ear, they (hopefully) got it. I really hope we can all be one big L&L family as we go forward with the new software. We will figure it out together!
If all it takes is a small addition to our signatures to help us find our old friends and to help us find new friends, I'm for it!
HAPPY NEW YEAR to us ALL!
Ella & Rusty
 
That's an awful experience. So glad you weren't gone longer.... poor kitties....
"mom, where's the can opener?"
When we used to leave, it was for a week, I can't imagine having a no show. I get annoyed at mine who doesn't change the water on the day I'm coming home.
It has been hard to adjust with this new board.
I used to always click on view your own posts so I can see who I responded to and whether or not they had come back.... can't figure that out now.
I sure hope all of you who are unhappy will stay with us.

Hi Rhiannon. I experienced the same issue after the switch. You have click the "watch thread" at the top of every one of your posts. Any replies will appear under "watched threads" and an alert will also be created at the top right under "alerts".

The downside is that you must remember to click on watch thread whenever you post. It would be nice if there was a preference in where by default the threads that you create are automatically "watched".
 
Hi Rhiannon. I experienced the same issue after the switch. You have click the "watch thread" at the top of every one of your posts. Any replies will appear under "watched threads" and an alert will also be created at the top right under "alerts".

The downside is that you must remember to click on watch thread whenever you post. It would be nice if there was a preference in where by default the threads that you create are automatically "watched".
Mike -
That option IS available. Go to your user name at the top right of the screen and hover over it. One of the options is "preferences". Click on that. The top check box

Automatically watch threads that you create or when you reply...
  • and receive email notifications of replies
 
Hopefully over the next couple of days the civvies will start to feel more secure. For all of the preparation you did, it heartbreaking to see that you were let down like this.

The new board and the consolidation of groups is taking a bit of getting used to. I think one of the challenges is that the old TR group had a lot more posts then the RL group and as such people are making the presumption that everyone posting here is following TR when they may not be. I don't know what the solution is, maybe adding the protocol everyone is following to their signature?

Also, I did look at Alska's spreadsheet. Google docs is giving me a warning telling me that the document is in the owner's trash. You may want to look at moving it out of the trash in Google Drive so it doesn't accidently get deleted and you loose all of your data.
I have tried all google suggestions to move it from trash with no success so there it stays.
 
Mike -
That option IS available. Go to your user name at the top right of the screen and hover over it. One of the options is "preferences". Click on that. The top check box

Automatically watch threads that you create or when you reply...
  • and receive email notifications of replies
Nice. Thank you for pointing this out!
 
No problem Mike. All of us are learning as we go with the new setup. I've only been using the software for about 24 hours longer than most members, and I find out something new every time I log in. :D
 
Robin:

Can you open your Trash folder? If so, you could copy and paste the document into a new document. I'd just give the new document a different name.
 
Mike -
That option IS available. Go to your user name at the top right of the screen and hover over it. One of the options is "preferences". Click on that. The top check box

Automatically watch threads that you create or when you reply...
  • and receive email notifications of replies
thanks Carl. that makes it so much easier
 
That must have been terrifying to walk in and realize they hadn't been fed or meds given!

I hope you will continue to post condos at lease once in a while. It will take a bit for everyone to get used to the consolidated group, but in the long run I think it will be good to stop the tug of war that had started on new members in Health. It was getting pretty confusing for a new mem I think to all of a sudden see a spat break out in their post over what protocol they should follow when they were still trying to just learn how to test and shoot! We need everyone of different experiences with Lantus here to offer support for everyone else. You never know when your experiences might help another member who has found themselves in the same shoes. Many time condos have nothing to do with offering advice, but to just have a place to say "this is my day", and have someone who understands the sugar dance acknowledge it and maybe chat a while.
 
Thank you all for your kind and calming words. This is the second catsitter in two years to FORGET even after they have confirmed. I could never forget because I have so many electronic reminders that I constantly check. Apparently not only did she forget to care for my kitties, but she also forgot to set up any reminders. At least this time I did not find out until I got home. Last time I found out as I was getting in my car to return. I don't know how I survived that raging three hour drive while sobbing!!
 
"Bumping this post to remind members this is a NEW forum... we have not added forums to the TR forum.

This is the new home of everyone using Lantus or Levemir... no matter which method of achieving regulation fits your needs. You're all new to this forum!

But, the Relaxed Moderator is not a Moderator on this forum so how is it any different from TR if it's all the same people?
 
Robin, Google lets you download the file, even from the trash. You can download it to your computer and save it in Excel or whatever SS program you have. If you don't have a SS program you can download it as a PDF to save the information. You can up load it back to Google w/ a different name. At least this happened at the very end of the year and you can start a new SS for 2015 a few days early.

I was able to down load Alska's SS both as a SS and as a PDF. (;) I won't keep them.)

Got to File > Download As > choose your format
 
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There are no moderators on any of the forums. The people you see with the green banners under their names (The Green Beans!) are moderators for the whole board, not any specific forum. Prozinc didn't have a moderator, and neither did the TR forum on the old board.
 
That's my number one fear with pet sitters... that they won't show up! Yikes.
I'm glad your kitties are ok!


Regarding this forum...
I just posted this reminder in the New Group ~ New Friends ~ New Year ~ Happy Holidays! thread and I'm copying it here because it's important for all to understand:


"Bumping this post to remind members this is a NEW forum... we have not added forums to the TR forum.

This is the new home of everyone using Lantus or Levemir... no matter which method of achieving regulation fits your needs. You're all new to this forum!

I've seen several members suggest adding "SLGS" to your signature if you're following the Start Low, Go Slow Approach for regulating your kitty. By the same token, it would be helpful if those practicing a Tight Regulation Protocol add TR to your signature. Insulin used helps, too. Speaking of signatures... Robert has set the signature limit to 3 lines. Please make necessary adjustments.

Thanks for your patience. There's always a learning curve when doing something new. Trust me, we're all feeling it!"
:D



I hope you'll welcome each other and become friends. I hope each and every one of you will stick around. Each of you adds something special to the group!

Mea Culpa. I also hope we all come together in this new board and be there to support each other regardless from where we came, what insulin we use, or what approach or protocol we follow (or don't).
 
But, the Relaxed Moderator is not a Moderator on this forum so how is it any different from TR if it's all the same people?
There are no forum moderators in any of the forums at this time.
And it's not all the same people... we have have a much larger group of members in this new forum... more members to share knowledge and experience as well as a renewed opportunity to learn from each other. :D
 
Robin, Google lets you download the file, even from the trash. You can download it to your computer and save it in Excel or whatever SS program you have. If you don't have a SS program you can download it as a PDF to save the information. You can up load it back to Google w/ a different name. At least this happened at the very end of the year and you can start a new SS for 2015 a few days early.

I was able to down load Alska's SS both as a SS and as a PDF. (;) I won't keep them.)

Got to File > Download As > choose your format
Ann. I have downloaded and copied it the problem is how do I make it the one that is shared by google. Therein lies my problem.
 
After you download it to your PC, you upload it back into Google Drive and convert it to their format.
Then you click the sharing button on the upper right. You'll get a shareable link you can use.
For good measure, also click File, Publish and copy that link to go in your signature.
 
What an absolutely horrible thing to come home to- I am so sorry for what happened with your petsitter(s) Please don't beat yourself up over it, there are some things we simply cannot control in life- we all do the best we can! hugs to you and your fur crew!
 
I can't think of anything worse than what you just had happen, robin. How terrible! I'm just glad that Alska survived! I wonder if that petsitter had any idea of the implications of her flakiness and the potential for him to have a serious crisis because she was irresponsible.

It's an adjustment for everyone, but I think it's going to be fine once the bumps get worked out. When I started there was just one Insulin Support Group for each type of insulin and I've thought many times how easy that was for me to just go straight from Main Health to learn from the people who understood Lantus when I didn't have any idea what I was doing.

If you've got a system that works for you, I'm certain no one is going to try to talk you into doing something else. Just keep on with what works for you! :bighug:
 
If you've got a system that works for you, I'm certain no one is going to try to talk you into doing something else. Just keep on with what works for you! :bighug:

While I know and appreciate all the advice from the TR group, my experience there was that there were times when it was suggested that I wasn't doing enough for my sugar. The Relaxed group was a good fit because it was just that - relaxed. It was a good place for people who may be more sensitive to the overwhelming advice - even as well-meaning as it was. I have respect for all the experience on this board but not everybody can test all day and night on a non-emergency basis. I worry about those people getting lost in the combined combo world. And now that we can follow posts and get email notifications again, the Relaxed group would have worked even better. We always knew that if we needed immediate eyes on a post, we should go to Health or TR. I just don't understand the rationale of combining the groups. I think we will lose the people who were comfortable on Relaxed.

So my response is that I do have a system that works but it is not a system that follows TR and therefore some may not agree and try to talk me into doing something else.

I must say though, that the new forum interface is really nice. It was a much needed upgrade and it definately makes it smart phone friendly. Robert and Rebecca did a great job!! We will figure it all out with time and patience.
 
Robin --

No one will try to twist your arm. I know that I will try to make sure that if someone is doing something I don't understand, I will try to ask questions and present what is the "conventional" wisdom -- especially if I don't know the caregiver or the kitty. There are also times (and I'm not saying this is true with your and Alska) that someone is engaging in a practice that I consider dangerous. It's rare that I will jump up and down -- but it's happened -- in an effort to get through to the person. (We've been very lucky on the Lantus boards that no one has had a kitty die from hypo or the caregiver not testing. It's happened a few times on the Facebook group and it's a chilling reminder of just how dangerous insulin can be.) In addition, written communication leaves a great deal open for interpretation. Because you care about your kitty, it's easy to view a comment as critical when that's not the intent. Having been here for 5.5 yrs, it's rare to have a member who is mean spirited. Rather, information may be put forward in an effort to make sure that your cat is safe.

The biggest issue for me is that I'm not as active on this board as I once was and I don't have the details of everyone's cat in the forefront of my memory. As I said earlier, gentle reminders or notes in your signature line will help enormously.
 
..and I would like to know exactly what DIDN'T work in the Relaxed forum as it has been claimed by Carl. It seemed to work for those using it and being helped by it so I respectfully disagree with this opinion.
 
...not everybody can test all day and night on a non-emergency basis.

As Sienne said, everyone has to make their own decisions based on what works for them and their kitty - no one is going to try to convince anyone otherwise. I did, however, want to comment about this one statement, as it is one of the biggest misconceptions about TR. This is not an effort to convince anyone who doesn't want to do TR to switch to; it's just a clarification about the testing involved in TR.

TR is NOT about testing all day and night on a non-emergency basis. Not at all. In fact, to do TR, you can often get by with just 4 tests a day - your two pre-shots, and one mid-cycle test per cycle. If you are in a emergency situation, then of course that is a different story with regards to how often you test - but that would be true whether or not you do TR. Now what you see about TR folks is that a lot of us LIKE to test more than those 4 tests - but it absolutely is NOT a requirement of TR.

Again - the above is just a clarification about the testing requirements for TR!!

As I said earlier, the only reason you often see "requests" for mid-cycle tests is for safety. ANY cat can take a dive into dangerous waters, no matter what their starting point is; no matter what their protocol is; no matter what their insulin is. And the only way to know if that has happened is to do a quick little test. Like Sienne said, I have yet to see anyone be mean-spirited by saying something like"You have to do TR or you are harming your cat!!"; what I see is concern about cats possibly dropping too low and the caregiver not knowing if that is happening or not.

Personally, I do feel that the merger of the boards is a good thing for everyone, whether they are TR or Relaxed. It was very difficult to jump over to Relaxed and get up to speed on what was going on with one specific cat when emergencies did arise. With everyone posting in the same forum, we have each other's histories right in front of us at all times. And, whether you practice TR or Relaxed, there is a LOT we can learn from each other.

Of course it is everyone's decision as to whether or not they want to stay. Personally, I think this place is a gold mine...if it weren't for FDMB, I am positive my Trixie would not be here today.
 
As I said earlier, the only reason you often see "requests" for mid-cycle tests is for safety. ANY cat can take a dive into dangerous waters, no matter what their starting point is; no matter what their protocol is; no matter what their insulin is. And the only way to know if that has happened is to do a quick little test. Like Sienne said, I have yet to see anyone be mean-spirited by saying something like"You have to do TR or you are harming your cat!!"; what I see is concern about cats possibly dropping too low and the caregiver not knowing if that is happening or not.

And I just want to point out the biggest difference between TR and Relaxed is that the majority of diabetic cat owners don't even bother to test. The people who arrive at FDMB are at least willing to go a little extra and look up diet and home-testing and switching insulin. It does not mean that everyone will agree with, or even have the ability for, testing and dosing per TR. In Relaxed, sure, we'd like to see more tests. But if the person is testing at all, that was still considered better than none. If the person is feeding half dry/half wet, that's still better than 100% dry. If the person has switched from glipizide, that's still better. Relaxed gave a non-judgmental home to all those who were unable to comply will all the TR rules for one reason or another. I hope LL can do the same.
 
Amy - thanks for clarifying. I didn't mean to imply... but there are some like me who can only get pre-shot tests and therefore didn't fit in the TR protocol. Please know that I value all of the TR experienced advisors wholeheartedly. I just wonder how we are going to differentiate who is following what protocol. I guess it will be through getting to know each other. I know it's about keeping kitties safe and applaud all the successes. But how will you know that I only test 2x a day, shoot low pre-shots and chase cycle lows with food, and that Alska has always had flat cycles. Well I guess I just told you.
 
I have fixed Alska's spreadsheet thanks to BJ. Please let me know if it is not working properly. Also, if anybody has any direction on how to replace the entire URL with "Alska's SS" in my signature, I would be grateful for the direction.
 
I have fixed Alska's spreadsheet thanks to BJ. Please let me know if it is not working properly. Also, if anybody has any direction on how to replace the entire URL with "Alska's SS" in my signature, I would be grateful for the direction.
hi Robin
i have the same question about renaming the spreadsheet. thanks :)
 
..and I would like to know exactly what DIDN'T work in the Relaxed forum as it has been claimed by Carl. It seemed to work for those using it and being helped by it so I respectfully disagree with this opinion.
I agree. But best not disagree with Carl or Robert as it seems they will close any thread where they are disagreed with.
 
What seems to be forgotten is that the TR forum no longer exists, either. We ALL have to learn new ways of thinking and approaching each other. THIS is our new home, and it is up to US to make it a wonderful place for everyone who is using one of the L insulins. Everyone has to make the effort - not just the Relaxed People, not just the TR people - EVERYONE. This has the potential be amazing FOR OUR CATS, so let's work together and make it happen (and not assume that it will be a dismal failure)!

Robin- I started an "Introduce yourself" thread yesterday, where you can tell us about yourself, your cat, and your objectives for your cat. Of course it will take time to get to know each other, and people will need reminders about what you are trying to achieve. As Sienne said earlier, a lot is lost with the written word since there is no vocal inflection, so patience will be necessary as we navigate through all of this.
 
..and I would like to know exactly what DIDN'T work in the Relaxed forum as it has been claimed by Carl. It seemed to work for those using it and being helped by it so I respectfully disagree with this opinion.

You can read what Libby and Lucy say the reasons were. What it boils down to is that the Moderators wanted to get rid of the Relaxed forum so they did. You can either get over it or move on.
 
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