12/2 Weezer AMPS 367, + 8.5 372

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Linda for Weezer

Linda for Weezer

Member Since 2011
All is well in Weezer World.

Prayers for any of friends in need of healing, strength and comfort today.

Yesterday’s Condo

Recap of yesterday
AMPS 343
+4 380
+6.75 379
PMPS 380
+3 360
+5.5 330
+9.75 311

We have a vet appointment Monday morning to address Weezer’s lack of response to insulin. She seems to feel as well as she has in months, but no matter how much insulin she gets, those numbers just don’t change. The only thing that reduces her numbers is a change of meters! :roll: I would appreciate any thoughts on how I should discuss this with the vet. What are the important things to remember to tell her, besides the obvious lack of response? What are the questions I should ask?

Wishing a kitty day for all, plenty of purrs, play, sunny spots and lots of love.
 
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Is Weezer acro or IAA positive. I don't see a note about that. 7u is getting up there. maybe he needs a bit more. Hope he comes down soon.

Pattie
 
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no advice here but lots of luck. I'll be keeping you and Weezer in my thoughts for a solution and better numbers
 
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You may want to edit your subject line to draw attention to your questions about Monday's vetty visit. I know there are a few folks here who are well versed, so I'm sure you'll get some wonderful insight.

In the meantime, Weezer, work that juice for MamaBean!!! I alway happy to see she's feeling well...despite the amount of insulin you're shooting, a kitty that's feeling good is very important.

Have a great day!!

Amy
 
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No advice here. Hope you get a long list of questions and that it is a productive visit! Have a wonderful day!!
 
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No advice Linda but I really hope this dose gives you a break thru. I like hearing you think she is feeling better. Is she holding her weight well ? There is a lot of experience on this board so I am sure you will get some good comments on what to discuss with vet. Fingers crossed and prayers being said for a breakthru before Monday on this dose.
 
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I'll be wishing all sorts of good luck for Weezer's vetty visit on Monday and hopefully nothing is wrong with her.....maybe she's just extra sweet!! :-D
 
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Hi guys .. no vet advice from me .. I wish you lots of luck in figuring out exactly what weezer needs so she can get off these higher levels! Have a great weekend!
 
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I am sure by Monday you will receive many suggestions which you should gather & bring to the vet..
He is feeling better and That Is Important!!--Hugs & Love from us! Have a good day!
 
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Linda, definitely change your subject to show you are needing help with vet questions so the expert eyes will see it. I wish I knew the answer to Weezer not budging on the numbers, but at least she is feeling like usual. That is always a good sign. Whatever you say to the vet, I'm sure the vet will be impressed with all that you are doing for Weezer. You are such a good bean!
 
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And when they tried to show Weezer what she looked like in pink...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

images
 
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Hi Linda- no answers, just well wishes! Maybe PM Julie and Punkin and Sandy and Black Kitty, since they both have experience in this arena.
 
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Hi Linda, good luck with your vet visit. I know this is not something you wanted to have to do :sad: no advice here, I am sure someone who has been through this will be along shortly. I hope you and Weezer have a good day and a great weekend!

Celi, how do you do it?! That pic is hilarious!
 
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I am glad you are going to the vet and hope you can find the reason for the lack of response. No matter what, you will get the info you need to proceed with Weezer's treatment. I have no advice about what to ask the vet but I am sure someone will help with that. I would only be sure that you have some good data and info on the possible issues to show your vet. My experience is that many people here know much more about cats and FD than their vets. Your experience may be different and hopefully it is but the lack of info out there means we have to educate ourselves and often provide it to our vets. Good luck and paws crossed that Weezer surprises you with a break through.
 
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I will bet that your vet will suggest that you change insulin when you bring up the issue on Weezer's limited response to Lantus. What I would encourage you to do is let the vet know that you'd like to investigate whether there's an underlying cause, such as insulin autoantibodies or acromegaly. If you simply switch insulin and one of these conditions is present, you will have lost considerable time in figuring out what's going on. If the results of the tests are negative, then changing insulin may be a viable suggestion. I don't think it makes sense to approach this from the other way around. If the vet tells you about how rare these conditions are (and they are far less "rare" than once thought -- roughly 10% of cats have elevated IGF-1 levels), you're knee jerk response should be, "Humor me. It's my money."

There could be other things that may contribute to limited response. From what you've said, it doesn't sound like Weezer has any illness or inflammation. You could ask the vet about Weezer's teeth. Needing a dental can mess with numbers.
 
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Sienne and Gabby said:
What I would encourage you to do is let the vet know that you'd like to investigate whether there's an underlying cause, such as insulin autoantibodies or acromegaly. If the vet tells you about how rare these conditions are (and they are far less "rare" than once thought -- roughly 10% of cats have elevated IGF-1 levels), you're knee jerk response should be, "Humor me. It's my money."
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So true Sienne. Harley was on 10u of Lantus before I found out about IAA. The vet tech told me "no" to the test, saying it was not necessary. I informed them that if they did not want to do it, I would find a vet clinic that would. Test results - Harley was positive 66%.

It was so worth the test Linda. At least you know what you would be dealing with.

Pattie
 
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Just want to offer support from us I even tested Do Lou this morning when he was red with FSL and of course he was blue :twisted: but cannot believe that meter thats for sure cat(2)_steam anyway as to tesitng for acro and IAA it is just going to give you more info on Weezer as to the whys..... its why I tested Do Lou my vet thought I was being silly..... to me having IAA is really not much diff IMO then FD , acro of course is totally another story.. anyhooo Do Lou and I are thinking of you both (((hugs)))))
 
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Hi Linda, lots of good Vetty vines and prayers for Monday's Vet visit. There has to be some underlying cause for the numbers remaining high. You've gotten some good feedback from Sienne. Hoping this Vet visit will lead to a breakthru for you and Weezer. Hugs.
 
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I appreciate everyone's support and suggestions.

I have emailed the vet and requested that these tests (IGF-1 and IAA) be done. I included links to the MSU testing catalog so there will be no mistaking my intentions. The vet has been very receptive and cooperative so far, and I don't anticipate any problems with her now.

Celi, How did you get Weezer's picture? She must have a modeling job on the side! :lol:
 
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I think testing for acro and IAA is a must at this point. I would think getting no response at 7u definitely requires a look into underlying causes. Only positive things can come from any answer you get....a positive diagnosis, you'll know what you're dealing with; a negative diagnosis, you know it may be time to try another insulin. It's a win-win situation. And I agree with Sienne about how to deal with the vet. It is your decision so just ask them to humor you if they balk at doing the tests. Just make sure they know how to ship the blood for the acro test. Julie (and others, but her name comes to mind) has all the details about this.
 
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Hi Linda,
You've been getting excellent feedback and I agree that the best thing to do is to have those tests done so that you will know what you are dealing with. Your vet sounds reasonable and I don't see how she can object to the tests.
Good luck on Monday, and good luck with your reading in preparation for Monday! Besides Julie and Punkin, others in LL that you might want to contact (who I can think of offhand) are Susan and Lanky, and Bev and Gus.
I think that you are very smart to be doing this now instead of waiting longer. Gayle (Shadoe; and Oliver) is also a gold mine of information on acro.

Ella & Rusty
 
I agree with the others - the biggest challenge can be the vet!
I too had to wrestle both BKs (3rd) vet and his internist about changing to PZI. . .
it was almost to the point where they were not going to refill BKs Lantus prescription.
Of course, we were in the neighborhood of ~38u daily combined lantus and R by the time we got around to testing (had soooo many other more immediate issues to sort out, starting with getting neutered).
I think showing them my ss may have been a mistake - they freaked out at the doses andn the numbers- qa 60 to them was a hypo emergency. However they could not deny that I was closely monitoring.
I think that's what won them, reluctantly, over. That and the fact that the IAA broke not long after the test results, and he flew down the dosing ladder.
And now they just shake/scratch their heads. :-D

Sounds like your vet may not give you a struggle. . .paws crossed.
 
Hi Lida - I can't give any mote info than what you've already received. I concur with all that the others have written. Good luck with your vet appt - I hope that they are open minded.

And Weezer - time to exit the pink floor!
 
Linda,

Good luck with the vet, I hope you don't have to convince your vet to do the testing....but it would not surprise me if you did. I don't think many vets know much about IAA & acro, and they do seem to think it is rare. I have never seen anyone say that they were sorry that they got the testing done, regardless of the outcome....knowledge is power!
 
if you gave them the links to the testing at MSU, that's probably all you need. i just posted in elaine/pinky's condo about shipping to MSU - use Fed Ex, not USPS.

you'll be happy to know the cause of the need for more insulin. i wouldn't switch either - not unless you get back negatives on both acro/iaa. once the decision is made to do it, i'd get it done asap. you'll feel better if you know what's going on.

hugs!
 
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