Yoshi 10/4 am 434 +3 326 +6 312 +7 367 pmps 455 +3 392
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Olive & Paula
Member Since 2015
Hang in the new dose is still building up.
AmandaE
Member Since 2019
Here is your condo from last night
It’s just my interpretation and I could completely be wrong. I’m also basing my interpretation of bounces off of how Mowgli reacts to insulin and of course, every cat is different. . I think there is definitely a possibility that Yoshi could be bouncing from the yellows, bounces can last a few Days. It’s Yoshis secret what he has going on.
For my interpretation of Yoshi’s data I think of it in terms of the overall picture. He’s just not seeing many lower numbers. I think right now these pinks and reds are his normal state.
I can understand why you’re frustrated. It’s so frustrating in the beginning you’re working hard and doing your best for Yoshi, but just not seeing the results you hoped for... trust me, been there. I know it’s so repetitive but patience is a must here. You will get to a dose that is good for Yoshi. It’s just that SLGS takes longer to get there. I do wonder if he has glucose toxicity (GT). My understanding of GT is that when kitty spends a certain amount of time in high numbers they grow resistant to insulin and you end up having g to increase their dose quite a bit until you can break through.
I am by no means experienced in this, but sometimes when GT is suspected and other symptoms such as ketones have been present I’ve read that a larger increases have been given. It’s an option I’ve read but I’m not sure if Yoshi would qualify since he did have those yellows the other day. Also I’m not sure if it’s an option for SLGS
@Marje and Gracie @Wendy&Neko @Sienne and Gabby (GA)
I was wondering if since Yoshi had trace ketones last night and has been in high numbers for quite some time if he would qualify for a larger increase as I wrote about in the paragraph above?
Don’t get discouraged, you really are doing a great job for Yoshi, don’t compare him with other kitties around here and have faith that you will find your ideal dose! Maybe not by your birthday but eventually.
Stressedcatmom
Member Since 2017
Thank you! I just tested for keytones and they are negative.
His +3 was 326. I will get a +6. I’m off today. His dental is 10/16. He has gingivitis and will need some extractions, so that could be why he’s not responding as much as I’d like. The vet said he had an exposed root so there is that too.
His +3 was 326. I will get a +6. I’m off today. His dental is 10/16. He has gingivitis and will need some extractions, so that could be why he’s not responding as much as I’d like. The vet said he had an exposed root so there is that too.
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Figaro's Liz
Member Since 2019
FWIW you are not alone. I'm going through a similar thing with Figaro right now too--just increasing and only getting high numbers. I totally understand the disappointment of getting that pink or red reading, hoping a bounce is about to break, and then they stay high test after test. Yuck! We had blues and greens for a while, but now he needs more insulin, so up we go.
One thread that helped me a lot was this one. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/tight-regulation-slgs-myths-debunked.111088/ Specifically post #17:
In other words... I try not to get hung up on whether bouncing is happening unless I have good reason to suspect Figaro has dipped into low blues or greens. And lately I haven't seen that with him unfortunately (I want those greens!!). A nadir in the yellow is still high, so even if yellows are causing Yoshi to bounce, there is a lot more room for those nadirs to come down with more insulin.
I'm a newbie so just my 2 cents... to you.
One thread that helped me a lot was this one. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/tight-regulation-slgs-myths-debunked.111088/ Specifically post #17:
In other words... I try not to get hung up on whether bouncing is happening unless I have good reason to suspect Figaro has dipped into low blues or greens. And lately I haven't seen that with him unfortunately (I want those greens!!). A nadir in the yellow is still high, so even if yellows are causing Yoshi to bounce, there is a lot more room for those nadirs to come down with more insulin.
I'm a newbie so just my 2 cents...
to you.
AmandaE
Member Since 2019
Something like an exposed root and gingivitis could definitely drive his numbers up. 10/16 isn’t too far away! Hopefully after the dental we will see a major improvement
Looking forward to the +6
Sue and Luci
Member Since 2017
I hope the dental will help him too! Need so much to see some better numbers soon
Stressedcatmom
Member Since 2017
FWIW you are not alone. I'm going through a similar thing with Figaro right now too--just increasing and only getting high numbers. I totally understand the disappointment of getting that pink or red reading, hoping a bounce is about to break, and then they stay high test after test. Yuck! We had blues and greens for a while, but now he needs more insulin, so up we go.
Thank you. This helps a lot! I hope Figaro shows better numbers soon!
One thread that helped me a lot was this one. http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/tight-regulation-slgs-myths-debunked.111088/ Specifically post #17:
In other words... I try not to get hung up on whether bouncing is happening unless I have good reason to suspect Figaro has dipped into low blues or greens. And lately I haven't seen that with him unfortunately (I want those greens!!). A nadir in the yellow is still high, so even if yellows are causing Yoshi to bounce, there is a lot more room for those nadirs to come down with more insulin.
I'm a newbie so just my 2 cents...
More than that, from the data present, his nadirs on 3.75u so far, have been above 300 which would indicate the need for a 0.5u dose under TR. My only concern is that we typically want to have enough data to know how low the dose is taking him before the dose is increased. There were no nighttime tests last night but my gut tells me he probably looked like he has the last few nights. He also does not look to me like he’s bouncing from yellows.
He’s had six cycle at this dose with the nadirs above 300. If he were mine, I’d increase him to 4.25u tonight.
Stressedcatmom
Member Since 2017
I am eyeballing the 3.75 so it could not be precise. Maybe I will increase to 4 to be safe
I agree with a Marje. A larger increase is needed to move him. The reason I have been harping on night time tests is to figure out how low he is going, but also to give us enough data to increase him sooner, but safer. Yoshi will get there, sooner the better, but it must be safe. Thank goodness it’s the weekend so you can monitor the 0.5 unit increase more closely.
Note high numbers are not always bounces. A lot of members throw the term around, when sometimes it is just high numbers from not enough insulin, skipped shots etc,
Note high numbers are not always bounces. A lot of members throw the term around, when sometimes it is just high numbers from not enough insulin, skipped shots etc,
Stressedcatmom
Member Since 2017
I must say that I have been getting a lot better at testing at night. I didn’t last night because I shut off my alarm at 130am (his +6). I don’t even remember doing it. I was exhausted
Stressedcatmom
Member Since 2017
Even nadir at 300 on a per meter is high, correct? I am still using the alpha track until his dental.
Absolutely. With the TR protocol, it doesn’t matter if you are using a human or pet meter. Except the reduction point based on BG being 68 for a pet meter vs 50 for a human meter, the other parameters are the same.