Urinating outside box

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nyare

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Hello. I’m new to the forum, & I joined because i’m at my absolute wits end with trying to manage my cat & his habit of urinating outside the box...

Some history: My kitty used to be a very fat cat, I believe due to overfeeding, and also possibly his diabetes. I’ve had him for 5 years, though for 1 of that he was living with my parents while I was out of state. My parents gave him access to outside, where he got used to eliminating, and also left food out for him. I have always fed him on a set schedule and kept him indoors. I believe the switch back to indoors started his litter avoided issues, which started with defecating outside the box. Around a year ago & a half ago, he started peeing outside his box, around the same time he started losing a LOT of weight, and eventually became unhealthily skinny. At that time, I didn’t have the money to afford a vet, so we could not confirm diabetes.

Fast forward, we finally got him to a vet last December, and got his diagnosis. After starting insulin, his weight went back up, as did his energy levels, and the volume of his urine went down a little. He still pees multiple times a day, and drinks more water than I’ve seen any cat drink. He is much healthier and the vet says his blood sugar is stable. But he still goes outside the box all the time!

We have tried spraying him with water, we have tried enzymatic cleaners, we have tried using vinegar on the carpets, we treat him after he uses the box. We have given him multiple litter boxes to use, and placed those near where he pees, we’ve changed litters, used litter attract. I’m not sure what else to do.
I will be trying this week to get a crate to keep him in, so we can deep clean a few times over and let the carpets dry without him around them, but I’m not sure it will help. The only other recommendations I can find are to switch to wet food, which I want to do but haven’t tried since I don’t think I can afford a blood sugar tester, or to put foil/tape down, but if we covered all his pee spots it would block access to his litter boxes.

He’s a very sweet kitty, I think around 14 years old, and he has separation anxiety from being abandoned so many times, so I feel awful about considering surrender. But I can’t manage this. The bedroom where he pees smells so awful even after cleaning the carpets that I have to sleep in the living room regularly. I desperately want to find a solution to this problem, but it has been ongoing for so long that I’m starting to feel hopeless.
 
Hi and welcome to you and your kitty. He looks a very sweet boy.
I’m sorry you are having the problem of urinating outside the little box. Have you had his urine tested for an infection? I’m sure others will offer advice as it is not a a really uncommon problem.

Can you tell us what type of insulin and the dose you are giving please.?
It sounds as if you are feeding a dry food diet. Is it a prescription diet or ordinary dry food?
If you are going to swap over to a low carb wet diet, which would be much better for him, you would need to be testing the blood sugars as it can drop the BG by up to 100 points.
I’m not sure where you live but a human glucose meter is not expensive, and if you can get the test strips on eBay they are much cheaper. If you live in the US the meters and strips at Walmart are very cheap.
Home testing is cheaper than going to the vet to get the testing done.
I think it would be worth your while to think about home testing and swapping to a low carb wet diet. It can get him better regulated and the peeing will be greatly reduced.

Have you looked at putting him on medication for the separation anxiety? The peeing outside the LB could be part of it all and may help the situation.
Hang in there, hopefully we can help you find a solution.
Bron
 
Hi and welcome!

Pee pads! It saved my life when Minnie had neuropathy and couldn’t go in and out of the litter box. Can you place pee pads on the spots he’s urinating on? That should help while you’re trying to figure out the cause. Since I mentioned neuropathy, is he suffering from it? It’s a common side effect is diabetes where the nerves in the back legs get damaged by the accumulation of the excess glucose. If he’s having issues walking he may also have issues going in and out of the litter box and it’s therefor urinating wherever is more comfortable for him.

also I’m not sure if it works on carpet but for my hardwood floors I used vinegar and backing soda to get the smell off. You can probably search YouTube for tips on removing the cat urine smell from carpet
 
Hi and welcome!

Pee pads! It saved my life when Minnie had neuropathy and couldn’t go in and out of the litter box. Can you place pee pads on the spots he’s urinating on? That should help while you’re trying to figure out the cause. Since I mentioned neuropathy, is he suffering from it? It’s a common side effect is diabetes where the nerves in the back legs get damaged by the accumulation of the excess glucose. If he’s having issues walking he may also have issues going in and out of the litter box and it’s therefor urinating wherever is more comfortable for him.

also I’m not sure if it works on carpet but for my hardwood floors I used vinegar and backing soda to get the smell off. You can probably search YouTube for tips on removing the cat urine smell from carpet

May I know what pee pads you use? Is it like the dog pee training pads?

Thanks.
 
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