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Patty & Tiger

Patty & Tiger

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I have posted new numbers on Tiger's spreadsheet. The Am this morning was the highest he has been. Do you think I need to start giving .60 now or do I need to go up on the dose. He is getting .80 now. His numbers seem to be all over the place.
 
I don't know a lot about prozinc but I hope this will get someone else's eyes on this.) but it sounds like he is eating well now, and no dry food. I think he may be coming down from a bounce from the green the other day, so I would wait another day to see how he does and if anything you would want to increase. I did read that the nadir moves around quite a bit on the first 45 days on prozinc so maybe that has something to do with it too?.
 
I agree that the 500+ may have been a bounce from the green the night before. The numbers that evening were confusing - the green came early in the cycle. Did you do anything unusual after the green - like a little high carb food to bring it up? The numbers from the last two cycles are looking pretty normal - 300s to 200s - but generally a little high.

I'd say you have two choices, depending on whether you will be around to monitor. You can stick with the .8 and see what the next few cycles look like. It would be helpful to figure out why he goes lower at night. Is it because he eats less (does he graze or is he asleep at night?) or is it because he is more active at night (or less?) If you can figure out that, it may help bring down the numbers during the day if you can replicate it.

If you will be around to monitor, you could increase to one unit and see where it takes him. But with the unexpected greens, I would want to be there to intervene with food if necessary. (If he got down in the 40s, you would try some regular food and test again in 20 minutes. If he'd continue to drop, then try some gravy off higher carb food and come on for advice.)

What is the feeding schedule? Does he generally graze with the wet food - during the day and at night?

Although his numbers present a challenging picture, don't lose sight of the fact that he is getting good numbers and is not even on one unit of insulin. And as you say, he is feeling and acting good. You both are doing great - just keep remembering that "it's a marathon, not a sprint" thing.
 
He plays a little at night, but mostly lays beside me. Right now his paws are on my hands trying to help me type this. I am not sure what he does during the day since no one is here then. My husband comes in at lunch and feeds him. He gets fed at 5:30 am and at lunch and supper. He gets a late night snack of boiled chicken about 9:00 pm. He has been eating some of the other cats food which is Friskies Pate. That is ok, isn't it, because that is on the list of foods diabetic cats can eat. That is all he gets to eat. I put chicken broth over his food instead of water, but it is just broth from the chicken I boil for him, nothing in it. I am confused about his numbers because they are so random. :?
 
The food varieties and snacks sound fine. I continue to wonder why he is lower at night. Maybe just because he's a cat. :mrgreen: He eats at 5:30 am? How long do you wait to test him after that meal?

I understand the typing help. When we got Niko from the Humane Society, his personality was listed as "personal assistant". He likes to be on the keyboard and the newspaper. I always picture him saying, "Can I help you with that? I'm sure I could help you with that..."

What are you thinking about the dose?
 
I check the BG first, then feed and then shoot. I am not sure about the dose, because he is not regular enough to change it. If I go to 1unit I am afraid he will go to low at night. If I go to .60 I think he will be to high in the morning. I don't know what to do.....
 
Then I'd stick with your .8 awhile, getting midcycle numbers whenever possible. (wondering if he got a lower number yesterday midcycle to make a bounce to that pmps.). The more data you have, the better you can understand how the insulin is working. Be patient and be encouraged that he seems to be feeling well, eating well, etc.
 
I only shot a .60 this morning because I was afraid to do the .80 with it being so close to the 200 and knowing how he sometimes just falls quickly. When I checked at the +3 he had gone up slightly. That is what I don't understand, shouldn't it have gone down after the shot. I will get a +5.5 and see what it is then. I won't be able to get the +6 because I have to leave and help take down Christmas lights at my moms house. :smile:
 
I think giving a little less this morning was a good choice. As far as the increase in numbers at +3, it looks like he does that once in a while, but not often. That might just be a "late onset" of the insulin, for some unknown reason. Someone mentioned that sometimes the nadir timing can be earlier or later than normal? That might be due to the onset not happening at the typical time. Maybe this cycle you'll see a "later" nadir? If you aren't going to be home at +6, just test him when you do get home and see what you get.
Carl
 
Anywhere around that +5 - +6 is fine. Often their numbers go up in the beginning of the cycle, sometimes because the food makes the number rise. It varies with the cat, but after charting a few cycles, you may see that a rise in that first couple of hours is sometimes what he does, but not always. Maybe keep track of the food and see if there is any correlation there. What's important is to see that he goes down after the initial rise, which he seems to.
 
Just put new numbers up for Tiger. He stayed in the 200's all day until I checked at time to feed and give the next shot. He jumped up to 426. I went back to the .80 for the shot. I just don't know.....
 
Maybe the .6 didn't last that last final few hours. Remember, you're gathering data. It'll help you see the big picture. Let's see what the .8 does tonight.

He had a good day in the 200s. That's good news!
 
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