syringe for Lantus

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I am using a syringe to get Lantus out of the cartridge. I am out of syringes, and want to know what kind is best to get. I found that the ones I was using were two different types, both for U-100 insulin. They are different gauge and different length needle. Does the needle need to be a certain length to best get the Lantus out of the Cartridge? Is a longer or shorter needle better for getting the right depth in my cat's skin? Please advise me what to buy.
 
I buy the Reli On Insulin Syringes U100 3/10cc 29 gauge with 1/2 inch needles and 1/2 units markings from Wal Mart.
I used to get the same as above only 30 gauge with 5/16th needles, but switched to the 1/2 inch needles because J.D. is a big boy and his skin layers are thick.
I think most people here use the shorter 5/16th inch needle.
 
We use the 3/10 ml cc, 5/16", 31 gauge, half unit marking syringes-- They are the shorter needles for use with U100 insulin--Most of us on lantus use this syringe. As cats usually need smaller doses on lantus, the half unit markings are essential.
Some do use the 1/2" syringes, but I felt that my cat was more comfortable with the shorter needles--Either way, try practicing on an orange to get the feel of injecting..
 
seamist said:
I am using a syringe to get Lantus out of the cartridge. I am out of syringes, and want to know what kind is best to get. I found that the ones I was using were two different types, both for U-100 insulin. They are different gauge and different length needle. Does the needle need to be a certain length to best get the Lantus out of the Cartridge? Is a longer or shorter needle better for getting the right depth in my cat's skin? Please advise me what to buy.

Hi Sheryl,

can u tell which syringes u are currently using?

as an example, I use brand "BD" 3/10cc's with 1/2 unit markings, 31 gauge, short needles. I'm in Canada, and don't need a prescription for them, others can verify for the U.S where to buy them without any hassles.

I believe most use short, others will chime in with feedback.

By the way, I know you began lantus a few days ago, have you had a chance to set up a spreadsheet? Instructions can be found in the TECH forum and then testing ur SS in the EVERYTHING forum.
 
Hi Sheryl,
For purposes of convenience and potentially long term cost you will probably want to consider the Walmart Relion syringes. You would want the U100, 3/10mL. The cost should be just under $12/100. You can get them at any walmart or Sam's club. There are a few of those not too far from you.

The Gauge = size of needle. The larger the gauge number, the thinner the needle. I prefer to use 31, but will use a 30 if need be, only because latte gets a zillion injections.

Length of needle (short or long) is probably more of a preference. I prefer a short because I know I can get it in Latte and she gets so many injections. It just feels right for us. Some prefer a long, possibly to make sure its really in and cant slip out as easily. What have you found the best for you and Sasha? Any preferences yet, since you have tried both.

You will want to make sure they have 1/2 unit markings...so make sure to ask.

While you are there, you can pick up relion lancets - a couple hundred for under $10 will last you a very long time. They will fit most (including contour) meters. I think a 30/31 gauge might be good.

in my opinion, I think it is ideal to stick to the same brand.

How is the testing going? Ive been meaning to tell you that using the contour lancet device will probably be easier to get blood than the one we left you with. So if you are not using that, try switching. Its just a lot stronger with a bit more umphf. :mrgreen:

Also, we would all love to hear daily updates on Sasha. You might find the daily support helpful, as well. What you want to do is start a new post (like you did for this one), in the Subject line write: Date, Sasha AMPS- (then her number). If you do not have an amps then you could put none. Then, if you have any questions through out the day, you would just post it within that thread (or condo as they are called). If you do this everyday, people can give you valuable input and support as you get into a good routine.

I hope we can connect over the phone at the very least today. If you have a DMV, and petsmart near you I could even run out that way and see how things are going today. Let me know.
 
Ronnie & Luna said:
I'm in Canada, and don't need a prescription for them, others can verify for the U.S where to buy them without any hassles.

Good point. You will need a script. So you can call the clinic this a.m. and ask for one to be called in. If it gets to be crunch time you should be able to go to any walgreens and get a pack of 10 to get you through the weekend. They will not have 1/2 unit markings, but should work fine if you are still giving the 2 units.
 
I need to get more syringes today. Do I need a prescription for them? I want to try to get the 5/16 31 gauge with half cc markings. Do I go to Walmart to get those? Do I have to call the vet first and ask him to call a prescription to Walmart? Carolyn, if you are reading this, please call me at my home number.
 
Most places in the U.S. require a prescription for syringes unless you purchase them on-line. I buy mine from Hocks -- there are links all over the Board -- because FDMB gets a commission, their GNP brand is inexpensive (less than $15 for 100, I think), and they ship quickly.

Like Carolyn, I use a 31 gauge needle. As far as needle length, this is a matter of preference. I use shorter needles. I've read that several of the people here who have long hair cats often prefer the longer needles.

I would definitely suggest getting needles with half unit increments. It will make your life far easier since dose changes can be in 0.25 amounts and it's much easier to be consistent with these syringes.
 
Sienne and Gabby said:
It will make your life far easier since dose changes can be in 0.25 amounts and it's much easier to be consistent with these syringes.

I am wondering how you change dose by .25 units if there are half and full unit marks?
 
Sienne and Gabby said:
Most places in the U.S. require a prescription for syringes unless you purchase them on-line.

States that require a rx for insulin syringes are in the minority. I think about only ten states may require prescription for insulin syringes. See http://www.isletsofhope.com/diabetes/st ... -laws.html This chart isn't updated though, b/c PA changed its laws and started allowing sale of insulin syringes (maybe all syringes, I forget) w/o rx toward the end of last year.

Your best bet would be to call the pharmacy you plan to walk in to, and ask them. And if they say you need a rx but the chart says you don't, try calling another pharmacy.
 
WCF and Meowzi said:
Sienne and Gabby said:
Most places in the U.S. require a prescription for syringes unless you purchase them on-line.

States that require a rx for insulin syringes are in the minority.


MA requires a prescription for insulin syringes :roll: That's why I always bought insulin syringes online from Hocks, and later, AmericanDiabetesWholesale.com

seamist said:
I found that the ones I was using were two different types, both for U-100 insulin. They are different gauge and different length needle. Does the needle need to be a certain length to best get the Lantus out of the Cartridge? Is a longer or shorter needle better for getting the right depth in my cat's skin? Please advise me what to buy.

The needle length and gauge doesn't affect how you get the insulin out. As long as the insulin syringes are U100, you're fine :smile:

Needle length and gauge is the bean's preference.

A thread with members' preferred brands of U100 insulin syringes with half unit markings is here --> http://www.felinediabetes.com/phorum5/r ... 22,1959486
 
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