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HyperJMA

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Hey everyone!
I pretty much use the Advocate Pet Meter, even though it's been more expensive. However, this morning I tested my three test strip containers and they all measured too high, out of the range of control solution.
Long story short - I'm discussing this with the seller and will resolve it with them
But in the mean time -- I have an off-brand meter for humans. Can I use that to test tonight? The name is Nova Max Plus. Is there a conversion chart?
Typically he runs in the low 200's around breakfast time and in the high 100's around dinner time. I know it's weird.
Opinions? Help?
Jess
 
I just tested him with the human meter and it was 140. We are about 1 -1.5 hours from when I planned to feed him. The reason I checked so early was because he started meowing like he might be hungry. (Which is silly anyways because he has wet food to nibble on if he's "starving". Such a drama queen!)
At least now I have a measurement at 6:30 pm and then I can take a measurement again at 7:30 to decide if he is in an up-trend or down-trend.
 
there is no conversion chart between human and pet meters - it's a real problem
the higher the number, the higher the divergence - if you click on Murphy's spreadsheet, I have a tab where I did some pet meter/human meter comparisons -- in the 200/300 ranges, the divergence I saw was up to 100 points!!
human meters run lower than pet meters, so if you are getting a 140 with a human meter - it is probably around 180- 200 (give or take) on your pet meter
 
Carol & Murphy said:
there is no conversion chart between human and pet meters - it's a real problem
the higher the number, the higher the divergence - if you click on Murphy's spreadsheet, I have a tab where I did some pet meter/human meter comparisons -- in the 200/300 ranges, the divergence I saw was up to 100 points!!
human meters run lower than pet meters, so if you are getting a 140 with a human meter - it is probably around 180- 200 (give or take) on your pet meter
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So, basically with a human meter you would look for "trends" instead of actual numbers? Like "ranges"?
 
HyperJMA said:
Such a drama queen!)
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Shouldn't that be "king"!?:woot:

On a more serious note, generally a reading of 150 or below on a human meter is when one has to decide whether to give insulin at all, give the full dose or give a reduced dose. Caregiver comfort and ability to test during the cycle are also factors to consider as well as past data. You have given 2.5u at a reading of 163 on the pet meter (which reads higher than a human meter) so from my personal comparison testing of a different pet meter to a human one, I wouldn't shoot a full dose at a reading under 120 on the human meter. You could give a reduced dose if he were that low but in either case I'd only shoot if I could test at least 3 or 4 hours into the evening cycle and was able to steer Mister Mistopheles if the need should arise.

Assuming he should be rising this late in the cycle, chances are Mister Mistopheles (I love that name!) will be high enough that you won't need to worry about deciding on dose.
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Shouldn't that be "king"!?:woot:

On a more serious note, generally a reading of 150 or below on a human meter is when one has to decide whether to give insulin at all, give the full dose or give a reduced dose. Caregiver comfort and ability to test during the cycle are also factors to consider as well as past data. You have given 2.5u at a reading of 163 on the pet meter (which reads higher than a human meter) so from my personal comparison testing of a different pet meter to a human one, I wouldn't shoot a full dose at a reading under 120 on the human meter. You could give a reduced dose if he were that low but in either case I'd only shoot if I could test at least 3 or 4 hours into the evening cycle and was able to steer Mister Mistopheles if the need should arise.

Assuming he should be rising this late in the cycle, chances are Mister Mistopheles (I love that name!) will be high enough that you won't need to worry about deciding on dose.
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Thanks! I know that once we moved Mister to 3u his BG readings started going crazy. So far 2.5u and 2u with a reduced half-dose of 1.5u seems to work pretty well. I am going to test again in 10 minutes to see if he is on a trend up or down. I say that it could be down possibly, because sometimes we were getting the "mountain" curve instead of the "happy face" curve when we did the BG curve. Still not sure what that is about, but since we basically travelled the last two weeks we couldn't investigate it.

J
 
Sometimes "mountain curves" instead of "happy faces" are indicative of too much insulin but I see Mister Mistopheles is still eating kibble so that too could be playing a role in that upside down trend as it take longer for dry food than wet food to elevate BG but BG also stays up longer from it.
 
If you are consistently seeing pmps numbers too low to safely shoot, it is often indicative of too much insulin. It might also be that he drops low overnight and bounces for amps. I think I'd try a little lower dose and see if you get more of a smile shaped curve and two preshots that are shootable.
 
Check my signature link on Human Glucometer and Veterinary lab reference numbers.
 
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