Question re Neosporin?

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BaileyUK

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Hi,Could you please give me some info regarding Neosporin,I am in the UK and we don't appear to have an equivalent product in this country,the one I bought here that looked similar gave me problems with testing Baileys blood,when I poked the blood didn't bead,it smeared and made it impossible for the test strip to grab the blood, consequently I had to keep poking,and now his ears are sore!
I can buy Neosporin on the Internet,with the postage it will be about 35 dollars,I am willing to do that,but just wanted to make sure I buy the right one,and that it will not do what the UK equivalent did,and that it will nor effect the beading of the blood,which one is the best to buy,ointment or cream? with or without pain relief? Many thanks,any feedback much appreciated.Diane & Bailey
 
Neosporin is either a cream or vaseline (petroleum jelly) with an antibiotic added. You may have in teh UK what is called triple antibiotic ointment. You can just use vaseline like I do.
 
Hi Larry & Wendy,thanks for your reply,It was Savlon I used,I think because it was a cream it smeared his fur back and when I pricked his ear the blood which normally beads just ran into the cream and fur,making it not possible to suck up the blood.
I wanted something soothing in case his ears are feeling sore,and noticed you all seem to be using Neosporin,I am not needing to use anything to bead the blood,just thought his ears might be sore. Does the Neosporin bead the blood? If so which one,I don't mind paying the high import price if it is going to work for him.
 
Petroleum jelly and neosporin are two different products that serve two different purposes


Petroleum jelly - if you are looking for the blood to bead up - use this - Vaseline is one name brand of this product.

Neosporin is the brand name for any topical antibiotic ointment that you would put on yourself to help clean a cut for example. This product is used to help the bruising that you may see when poking the ears.

Make better sense now?
 
I use Neosporin + pain relilef ointment. It has a bit of a numbing agent and helps with the bruising. I use it after the poke for healing as opposed to before the poke for beading. I hope you can find the equivalent over there - good luck!!
 
Before testing I put very little on my thumb and then rub between my thumb and finger the area of the ear where I am going to prick, then prick to get the blood. Just make sure that y do not get the "stuff" on either end of the strip. I can cays problems with reading the blood sample.
 
Hi Diane,

(And thanks, Wendy, for drawing my attention to this post.).

Diane, as far as I am aware there is no definitive alternative to neosporin in the UK (but someone please correct me if I am wrong...?)

In terms of 'getting the blood to bead up and not disappear into the fur' a small smear of simple Vaseline works really well. I did this for many months before Bert's ears 'learned to bleed'.

In terms of a 'painkilling gel/cream' (numbing gel/cream) in the UK -frankly, I do not know of one.... And believe me, I have looked....

But there are certainly anti-bacterial creams/gels available, and I'm pretty sure I have one somewhere in a drawer...(but it will take me a wee while to look for it to find out the name...because although I bought it, I don't think I ever actually used it....)

What I'm wondering is, why are Bailey's ear's getting sore? The reason 'why' will indicate the solution to the problem... For example, my Bert has had sore/bruised ears from time to time (in his 7 years of being diabetic and and his having 8 - 9 (or more) blood tests a day) and the usual cause - in Bert's case - is that I have not pressed on the test site sufficiently (after testing) to prevent bruising. Sometimes I seem to get a little lax about that bit.... :roll: But once I've realised this then a couple of days of remedying the problem (ie, being really careful to press on the test site with cotton wool or tissue, firmly, for a few seconds immediately after getting the blood sample) sorts things out.

Diane, may I ask you, are you having any particular problems with testing Bailey? If so, do please spell them out because maybe someone here has resolved a similar problem and may be able to help you. :-)

Edited to add: Ooooh, another thing I just thought of is - be sure to use a sharp lancet for testing. Are you changing the lancet for each test? That could make quite a difference.....

Eliz
 
Look for topical anesthetics for sunburn or cold sores, or something like Boil Ease (a topical drying and pain relieving ointment).
 
In Canada the equivalent is called Polysporin with 3 antibiotics and pain relief, heal fast formula. Maybe the UK has the same thing with yet another brand name on it.
 
Wendy&Tiggy said:
Does savlon have an ointment version?
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Savlon (in the UK at least) has an ingredient in it that is toxic for cats if they ingest it. It begins with 'C' but I can't recall the name of it at the moment...
 
The antiseptic cream (for cats) that I have stashed in a drawer is Betadine ointment; but this is now discontinued in the UK...

However, the following product available from Vet UK might be worth considering, especially since the description says that it has soothing as well as healing properties:
http://www.vetuk.co.uk/veterinary-suppl ... 0ml-p-7773

Vet UK are very knowledgable and helpful (in my experience) and it could be worth your dropping them an email and asking what they suggest....?

Eliz
 
Hello Elizabeth,
Many thanks for your detailed reply.I have not been applying anything to Baileys ear when I do his bg testing,this concerns me incase they get infected,his right ear is the one I test most of the time (easier to get blood from this ear) When I first started to test I applied a little Savlon,but this caused the problem of the blood smearing and not beading,I presume this is because it is a cream,and not ointment,I would only be applying as a precaution against infection.I use a new lancet every time I test,and I put pressure on puncture site afterwards.
I find it very stressful poking his ears,I feel sick in the stomach every time I test.He had such a distressing start to his life before he came to me ,for the past 11years I have done everything possible to make his life happy,and now this!
Thank you BJM and Wendy,for your input,I will see what the pharmacy here has to offer,you are all so very generous with your time and support,it is very much appreciated.Hope you all have a peaceful day Diane & Bailey
 
Hi Elizabeth,
Just seen your replies,thank you so much,his ears are not infected,but like you just wanted to have something in the draw incase it was needed.As you are also in the UK,can I ask you a question regarding food,I am concerned that feeding such high protein food might be putting a strain on Baileys kidneys(not a problem as yet,but want to avoid further complications) he is fed Lilys Kitchen,Natures Menu & GranataPet,as far as I can see the phosphorus levels are on the high side,am finding it difficult to find any alternative that fits the bill,have you found anything that is more suitable?
Am now going to contact Vetuk ,many thanks Elizabeth for taking the time to reply.
By the way Bertie looks handsome,what a beautiful boy he is. X
 
Dr Pierson of Cat Info states you may add 20-25% cooked plain meat of poultry to canned food which may reduce fat, and depending on the phosphorus levels of it, may also reduce the concentration of phosphorus.

I won't swear to it, but I think at least part of the phosphorus content is from the ground up bone meal in cat food and baby food doesn't tend to include that.
 
Thanks BJM
You mentioned this on one of your previous posts,and I have taken your good advise and have been roasting a chicken for Bailey once a week,and with the carcass I have been making him stock,when chilled it turns into jelly,I skim the fat off and warm some up each day to pour over his food,he loves it,very good thought on your part,Bailey says thank you? X
 
That's a great idea making stock out of the carcass.

FYI -- you can freeze it and thaw as needed. I do that when I make the homemade raw chicken and want to add liquid.
 
Hello Hillary,
Yes I put the stock in ice cube trays,freeze then put in freezer bags,My version of Jewish penicillin for Bailey! His coat has improved,and I feel because it goes to solid jelly it must be full of nutrients for him.
 
hi bailey, and baileys mom :) he sure is beautiful! i agree with what every1 said. b4 i got the neosporin pain relief ointment,i thot to use vaseline one day. it makes this ears look wet so u can see the vein better! plus the beading of blood. then i accidentally got the pain relief cream,not ointment, so i had to use both.haha
hope u find something similar in the UK. :)
and to LarryAndKitties....hi, my boy is larry :) :) haha
good luck to all.
 
also, check near the bottom of this thread. the person says their chemist ordered Brulidine for them to buy over the counter. they say its UK version of neosporin. i cant vouch for any of this. just stumbled on it :mrgreen:

http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=24175.0

also, u reminded me how i used to boil the bones and fat from chicken for my sweet ole dog, who is GA. when she stopped eating, she would drink that, and loved it! :)
 
BaileyUK said:
Hi Elizabeth,
...As you are also in the UK,can I ask you a question regarding food,I am concerned that feeding such high protein food might be putting a strain on Baileys kidneys(not a problem as yet,but want to avoid further complications) he is fed Lilys Kitchen,Natures Menu & GranataPet,as far as I can see the phosphorus levels are on the high side,am finding it difficult to find any alternative that fits the bill,have you found anything that is more suitable?
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Diane - huge apologies for not responding sooner to this question, but have been caught up with 'stuff'.

Oooh, yes, the 'phosphorous issue'.... It can be a bit of a conundrum... :?

But of course Bailey may never develop kidney issues. We just don't know what the future holds.

The foods that you are feeding Bailey are brilliant high quality foods.
But I do understand that with older cats there is always the question of whether they will develop kidney issues and hence need to be fed differently (ie lower phosphorous foods).

All my cats are old (15 - 17) and currently don't have kidney problems (touch wood, anti-jinx!). But I am very aware that they may develop kidney problems. I've thought a lot about this and my current stance on the situation is this; that I try to include some lower phosphorous foods in their normal food rotation. I don't mean low phosphorous foods (ie prescription foods), but just some normal foods that happen to be lower in phosphorous than others. The reason I do this is twofold: Firstly because I don't really want to feed them more phosphorous than I have to; and secondly because if they DO develop kidney disease then I'll already know of some lower phosphorous foods that they are happy to eat, and that will give me a 'starting point'...

Two favourite foods that my cats absolutely love are Lily's kitchen fish dinner (in little foil trays), and Grau kitten food (turkey with carrots). According to the UK food list on the 'Tanya' feline CRF website both of these foods are pretty good in the phosphorous ratings. And both seem fine with my diabetic boy too (even though the Grau kitten contains carrots....). So, my cats get these foods every week.

If my cats DO develop kidney problems I will try to find sufficiently low phosphorous foods that are palatable to them and that they can eat all the time. But I'm also aware that some of the really low phosphorous foods seem not to be palatable to cats long term. So, if that was the case, I'd opt to use a phosphorous binder with the foods that they did find palatable. (I know too that some folks add chopped cooked egg white to normal cat food, because this is a protein source that is very low in phosphorous.)

This is just my '10 cents' on the issue.... I'm sure others may have very different views....

Eliz
 
hello to u both, forgot ur names now. r protein and phosphorous something we r supposed to be watching also? i am in USA but have only looked at carbs.
i dont know a lot on the subject but i thot it was the magnesium thats bad for the cats kidneys??
just wondering. thanks. :)
 
When a cat has any level of renal failure, phosphorus tends to build up in the blood, rather than being excreted. This gives the kidneys even harder work to do and may hasten their failure. It can help to reduce phosphorus intake for cats in any stage of renal failure.
 
Good morning Elizabeth,
Thank you for getting back to me yesterday,it's interesting to hear your views,I think that is a very good idea of yours to incorporate a little low phosphorus food into the daily diet,and reassuring that you think the food Bailey is getting is good.
I have found dealing with FD quite daunting,the vets I have been using know very little about FD, and absolutely nothing about Lantus,I am very much on my own dealing with this,it would have been impossible without the knowledge and help I have received from you amazing people on this forum.
Let hope Elizabeth that we both don't ever have to deal with renal problems! many thanks for sharing your views,I hope all your brood are well and that you all have a peaceful weekend. Many thanks Diane
 
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