possible lower dosage of Prozinc need to know by 640pm calif time +11 basically PMPS

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Logan & Sandy

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HI, I plan to test my cat logan about 15 mins from right now... last nite he went hypo... testing at 39 then one minute later at 42 ( i wasn't sure if i did it wrong..). his dosage is by vet 2.0 prozinc.. i lowered it to 1.5 prozinc for this AM shot.. did a test at+6 and he was 186. i plan to do another test shortly.. please advise if i would need to change dosage if he is low again.. i will update after i do test in this msg.. thanks a lot!! LOGAN IS 124 again.. what shall i do//? vet said if he's acting normal.. just feed him and keep him at the 1.5units.. need to feed logan then. give insulin,,
 
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Chris & China (GA) said:
There's really no way to answer your question until you get the PMPS test.

Just remember, if he does happen to be under 200, stall, DON'T feed and test again in 20-30 minutes
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HIS NUMBER WAS 124 AGAIN.. VET just called and said not to worry about the numbers and that if his behavior is different then i would need to be concerned and if i am more comfortable with giving him 1.5 then do so but she would reccomend the 2.0u of prozinc,,
so now what shall i feed him..? usually he's fed NOW and then prozinc at 740PM
 
what does stalling do? it just holds off his numbers.. which will probably go down more since he hasn't eaten or gotten insulin..
 
Stalling will tell you if the BG is going up on its own without food influence. If it's steady or continues to drop you want to skip.

I would not go back to 2u at all, he earned a reduction down to 1.75 units since he dropped below 90 last night. Any time they drop below that they earn a 0.25 unit reduction.
I'd be tempted to skip tonight depending on the stalling number ... as long as you didn't already feed.
 
You Test/Feed/Shoot.....all in about 5-10 minutes.....there's no reason you have to wait 30 minutes to shoot IF he's high enough for insulin. Most of us test, feed, and as soon as we know they're willing to eat, shoot...usually with their head in the bowl

If you don't want to shoot until 7:40, then test at 7:35.....if he's over 200, feed and shoot the 1.5

If you fed now, you'd be shooting into a number that's food-influenced (which is what we don't want to do).....by testing right before feeding/shooting, if he's too low you can stall...which let's us know if the last shot is starting to wear off.

We understand that if you stall too long, the number may drop more because he hasn't been fed, but waiting 20-30 minutes to see for sure is the safest way to go
 
Logan owner is Sandy L. said:
VET just called and said not to worry about the numbers and that if his behavior is different then i would need to be concerned
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Have to disagree - if we didn't need to worry about numbers we wouldn't be testing. The change in behavior your vet mentions would be a symptomatic hypo, which is potentially fatal. And many, many times cats are dangerously low and never show symptoms. Don't base dosage on behavior.
 
Panic said:
Have to disagree - if we didn't need to worry about numbers we wouldn't be testing. The change in behavior your vet mentions would be a symptomatic hypo, which is potentially fatal. And many, many times cats are dangerously low and never show symptoms. Don't base dosage on behavior.
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iAGREE WITH YOU.. I PERSONALLY THINK ITS CRAZY NOT TO WORRY ABOUT THE NUMBERS!!!
 
Chris & China (GA) said:
You Test/Feed/Shoot.....all in about 5-10 minutes.....there's no reason you have to wait 30 minutes to shoot IF he's high enough for insulin. Most of us test, feed, and as soon as we know they're willing to eat, shoot...usually with their head in the bowl

If you don't want to shoot until 7:40, then test at 7:35.....if he's over 200, feed and shoot the 1.5

If you fed now, you'd be shooting into a number that's food-influenced (which is what we don't want to do).....by testing right before feeding/shooting, if he's too low you can stall...which let's us know if the last shot is starting to wear off.

We understand that if you stall too long, the number may drop more because he hasn't been fed, but waiting 20-30 minutes to see for sure is the safest way to go
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*** well he's been fed.. and got his shot about 20-30 mins later lower dose 1.5 units.. vet was telling me that 1.5 units isn't that much..
not sure what to believe.
 
the other thing is that i try to feed him about 645-705pm as it takes him 20mins to eat. then i wait abit b4 giving him insulin. which is what i did tonite.
 
Panic said:
Stalling will tell you if the BG is going up on its own without food influence. If it's steady or continues to drop you want to skip.

I would not go back to 2u at all, he earned a reduction down to 1.75 units since he dropped below 90 last night. Any time they drop below that they earn a 0.25 unit reduction.
I'd be tempted to skip tonight depending on the stalling number ... as long as you didn't already feed.
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****generally he does not have food in his tummy for several hours before i do the test as i did tonite and got the bg124
 
Logan owner is Sandy L. said:
*** well he's been fed.. and got his shot about 20-30 mins later lower dose 1.5 units.. vet was telling me that 1.5 units isn't that much..
not sure what to believe.
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The thing is, for some cats 1.5 doesn't do much, but for others it does a lot, and for some it's just right. What may hardly move one cats numbers could totally tank another cat. That's why there's no set chart of "if it's at this level, give this". We have a person on here now that give 0.25 and it sends her cat from the 300's to double digits. He's just really sensitive to it. It's only through testing that you would know how they react, one size does not fit all.
 
Logan owner is Sandy L. said:
*** well he's been fed.. and got his shot about 20-30 mins later lower dose 1.5 units.. vet was telling me that 1.5 units isn't that much..
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A dose of 1.5IU insulin may be a small amount of fluid but it contains a very powerful hormone.

Each cat needs the insulin dose it needs and even a tiny drop more might be enough to drop the cat into dangerous numbers.

A dose of 1.5IU isn't that much, perhaps, for a cat who in actuality needs, say, 10IU. However, if a cat's actual need is, say, 0.25IU of insulin, then 1.5 units would be SIX TIMES TOO MUCH and potentially lethal.

not sure what to believe.
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Believe Logan's numbers.


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Logan owner is Sandy L. said:
but what i wonder is that he looks and acts fine..
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From the FDMB Guide to Treating Hypos:

With very low numbers and NO SYMPTOMS, a cat can be fine one moment and seizing the next.​

[Emphasis mine]​

Please be mindful that normal behaviour is no guarantee that a cat is safe and will stay safe. Depend on the BG readings, as BG level is the sole guide to whether or not Logan is safe.


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