Our Veterinarian Interested in TR?

[max&emmasmommie]

We saw a different vet for Max on 8/30/12 because I wanted to get in at noon instead of waiting until 5:30 for my regular vet. This vet was very surprised to find out that I had Max down to 0.25u. I asked her to help me get syringes with 0.1 unit markings, and she said she'd look into it.

She called me later that day. She said my regular vet had never heard of these rat syringes. She asked me to give her more information about the Roomp/Rand protocol I had mentioned to her when we were talking about how low Max's dose is now. I gave her the names of the doctors/scientists Roomp and Rand the web site addresses to the German study and the Queensland U. information. She said thank you. I hope she's genuinely interested.

 

[Dyana]

That's cool that this vet seems interested. I hope she does the extra work to study the protocol we follow.

I didn't know that syringes with 0.1 unit markings existed. Do they?

 

[Sienne and Gabby (GA)]

I don't think there are syringes in 0.1u increments. If there were, they'd be more readily available for diabetic children.

You may want to send this paper to the vet. It's the article on the Roomp & Rand protocol that was published in a vet journal.

 

[rhiannon and shadow (GA)]

Here's a past post on those rat syringes.

I hunted when I first got here and got the information for the lab rat syringes.
The problems with them: They are expensive (like $35 for one) , glass so you have to sterilize them each use, I don't know how much the needles cost ( i think it was $35 as well, but I don't know if you got more than one for that price or if it was a box) and then the reviews say "they have a large dead space at the tip"
so they sound rather problematic for microdosing.
I guess they aren't microdosing with as much accuracy as we want on the rats. ?
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=38803

I've been begging for some barbie syringes. If only they would do it right, I'd be contacting Mattel.

 

[MJ+Donovan]

I'm pretty sure at least one person here tried using glass syringes, but gave up for various reasons.
I think this may be what you're referring to:
http://www.hamiltoncompany.com/item/view/c/800/p/1506/
It's a glass 10 uL syringe with luer tip, so it will accept whatever needles you choose.

This is a photo of a 25 uL syringe (10 uL = 1U insulin):

I can't speak to the "dead volume" issue. All of the glass microliter-volume syringes I have used at work have a permanently cemented needle on the end, and I don't know what changing the needle to a luer-lock type would do to the accuracy of the measurement.

MJ