Opie, B.O.S, and the Smile Curve

A good example of what you were talking about would be June 23 where he appears to have been breaking a bounce and he did drift (safely) down after +6 (actually was pretty flat-ish when considering meter variance) on that day. And today he also seems to have broken a bounce so he may do the same thing. With you monitoring him, though, I am not worried for his safety.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
And I wouldn’t stress too much about the +6 feeding. If you find that is about when he nadirs (and I think he usually does) go ahead with an LC snack at +6. Really it’s still not too late to do an LC snack since, unless I am miscalculating, his +6 was only 25 minutes ago. So you aren’t going to ruin anything. A little LC when they’re in green can help them surf. And the suggestion is not to feed much after nadir so that’s approximately after +6. So it’s a guideline/suggestion and not a hard and fast rule where if you give him a little LC at a little past +6 the whole cycle would be spoiled. You would not spoil anything.
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So let me get this straight. . . it is still ok to give him a little LC food right at the nadir +6 after testing?
 
LovingOpie said:
So let me get this straight. . . it is still ok to give him a little LC food right at the nadir +6 after testing?
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Yes. The goal is to just give him a little LC food so you can try and keep him level in those greens. This is a good test because if he shoots up, we will know that might not be the best strategy but we won’t know without trying. Even if it is well past that point now, I’d test and if he’s not flat or headed back up a bit, give him a small amount of LC.

edited to add: just looking at his SS, I see he’s up to 124. Did you feed him after the 70? The Remarks. Column is a great place to list his feeding which helps us immensely. If you look at Gracie’s SS, you’ll see how how kept track of her feeding which is really important for managing the curve with food.

Great job getting that +1.5 test.

Also…..for those reading and following along, when I suggested Julie only reduce him if he drops below 40 once or between 40-50 on a few consecutive days. This was recommended because Opie is a long-term diabetic and it’s in accordance with suggestions in the MPM which Julie is following.
 
LovingOpie said:
So let me get this straight. . . it is still ok to give him a little LC food right at the nadir +6 after testing?
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I would say so, yes. Don’t we say not to feed AFTER nadir? Not at nadir? I would of course keep it to a teaspoon or two of LC. Unless you have a cat who jumps up really high from LC. Some cats do — so every cat is different. We soon would be able to tell if a tsp. Of LC at +6 caused Opie to jump up. Today, where you didn’t feed anything at +6 and then he went to blue at +7 we know it wasn’t the food. You didn’t cause the rise to blue with food. I guess I am just saying that if you feel he needs an LC spoon at +6 then it’s fine to give it. If you feel he doesn’t need it, that’s fine too. Of course if he’s low enough that there’s a need to feed him to bring his BG up, then it doesn’t matter what hour it is - just do it (I am writing that more for anyone reading and not for you because you already know this.)
 
So I fed up to the +6 test and right at the test time but not after. Decided to wait for one hour and retested at the +7 to find that he already went up quite a bit. It appears that he is again bouncing because he is pink at +9 and probably still going. . . .
 
LovingOpie said:
So I fed up to the +6 test and right at the test time but not after. Decided to wait for one hour and retested at the +7 to find that he already went up quite a bit. It appears that he is again bouncing because he is pink at +9 and probably still going. . . .
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So that is loss of duration primarily, in a huge way. He might also bounce but to go up that fast is definitely loss of duration. It’s possible (likely) the food clipped his duration which means he “might” be carb sensitive. Please be sure you record this so you can see exactly what you fed at what time and the results.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
So that is loss of duration primarily, in a huge way. He might also bounce but to go up that fast is definitely loss of duration. It’s possible (likely) the food clipped his duration which means he “might” be carb sensitive. Please be sure you record this so you can see exactly what you fed at what time and the results.
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I always feel that he is very sensitive to carbs, that is why I only feed him 3% or less. I do keep record of feeding but on paper and not on the SS. I also don't record what type meaning shrimp or chicken etc. and it is loosely done meaning approximate per half hour etc. He eats a lot of times in those hours I have allotted and it is difficult to keep exact track of it all because I don't always have the time to go and write it down. I guess I will have to try harder and do better. Should I try zero carb? and is zero carb something I can give him even after nadir?

another thing. . . could it be the amount of food per time? would that matter? 1/2 can, whole can?
 
LovingOpie said:
I always feel that he is very sensitive to carbs, that is why I only feed him 3% or less. I do keep record of feeding but on paper and not on the SS. I also don't record what type meaning shrimp or chicken etc. and it is loosely done meaning approximate per half hour etc. He eats a lot of times in those hours I have allotted and it is difficult to keep exact track of it all because I don't always have the time to go and write it down. I guess I will have to try harder and do better. Should I try zero carb? and is zero carb something I can give him even after nadir?

another thing. . . could it be the amount of food per time? would that matter? 1/2 can, whole can?
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It doesn’t matter what type, really. Just the % carbs, how much, & at what + time. I wouldn’t suggest trying 0% carbs but I would try to frontload the cycle so if you need anything at all at nadir or after to bring him up, it’s just a tsp.
 
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