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gosh a newbie kit arrives in 3 days..shoulda been there saturday. now for sure tomorow.
it will be a good back up. plus your rice sock will come in handy along with the paperwork for great links.
i believe you are recieveing a contour with 30 strips.
use them ok.
 
Getting ready for my first home test. Have not let cat eat this morn and have question. In the videos I saw online with examples of pricking ear- I think all of them a person used the lancets without using the lancing device- the just used it to prick the ear. Anybody with insight on this. I plan on doing test by 10:30 am this morn CST.
 
Some just free hand it using just the lancet itself, I never got the hang of it that way, so I use a slightly modified version, I take the cap off the lancing device and then use it that way so I have better aim, but use the spring loaded action of the device to make the poke quick. That way I can see where I'm aiming but not chicken out and pull the poke itself.

Now Max has really fluffy ears so I use a little neosporin for pain on his ears to help the blood bead up and not disappear in the fur. It also helps in the ear healing process. You may have to try several different approaches until you come up with what works best for you and Doctor.

Other things that help is either warming the ear by rubbing or the use of a rice sock. With Max I can usually just warm his ears by rubbing but now that the weather is colder and the house is chillier I have been using the rice sock to help warm his ears. (thinnish sock filled about 2/3 full of plain white rice and then microwaved for a few seconds to make it very warm but not hot). I check it against my own ear or neck to check temperture before touching his ear. I also try to warm up my hands as well as Max tends to jump if my hands are too cold as well. I just run them under warm water for a few minutes then off to test.

Don't get to frustrated if you don't get blood on the first few tries, it gets easier and you will develop a routine that works for you both. If you have problems come back and post and we will try to help, lots of folks have figured out lots of ways to do it, so someone will have a trick that works.

Mel
 
i personally always found it easier to just use the lancet alone. i use a cotton ball on the inside of the ear to avoid poking my finger if i poke all the way thru the ear (pierce) and then use the cotton ball to pat ear dry.
 
oh yeah, reward and love on the kitty weather or not you are successful, he should think of it as a lovey dovey rewArding thing.
 
After trying with and without lance device I used just the lance and went thru his ear and into my finger. I bleed but he did not. Am I actually trying to lance the vein itself or the sweet yellow spot between the vein and the edge of ear. I had him in sunlight and massaged hisear for a good five minutes.
 
Just the sweet spot between the vein and the edge of the ear. With Max I tend to aim for the spot just above the little flap near the bottom edge of his ear. He also has one ear that bleeds better than the other one, so for the most part we only use the right ear. Doctor may have one that works better than the other one. And over time their ears do learn to bleed. I had a bear of a time getting blood those first few days with Max, now I barely touch him and I get blood every time.

Mel
 
Well i didn't do something right - pricked his ear all the way thru about four times and not enough blood to register - I'm sure I've wasted the strip trying to rub some blood on it to no avail. Strip may be no good anyway because I have had it out of its box for almost an hour. Gonna postpone for now and feed and then give insulin. Shxx!!
 
Okay, time for tips. I don't think we have ever done a survey, but I would guess only 1% of the newbies get it on the first try. We struggled for an entire weekend, poking him constantly. He was so sweet and patient.....

Do you have something behind the ear to poke against? We used a small makeup sponge; lots of people use a folded kleenix.

In the beginning, it does seem that some kitties require a very warm ear. (The rice sack) Massaging is not always enough.

Are you sure aiming in the right place? http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m267 ... etspot.jpg where to poke Sometimes after you find the right spot, if you put a little smear of vaseline there, it helps you know where to poke and it helps the blood bead up.

Keep trying and always give treats, successful or not.
 
Other tips...

I actually poke the other side of the ear, about 1/3 of the way up from the base of the ear and I never look for a vein or anything else. I use the softclix lancet device and I love it. I would use a thin sheen of vaseline to help the blood bead up, and I would keep the rice sock behind the ear for support when poking.

Jen
 
Well knowing others have struggled makes me feel a little better and that sweet spot photo very helpful. I fed him and gave him daily insulin. Will try 3-4 hour from now to get another sample.
 
I just successfully did my first home test at 11:15 CST today and it went very smooth, changed ears and had no problem.
I did not let him eat for the last two hours, and his last insulin shot was 11 hour and 30 minutes ago. His bs count on the meter read 110 and I'm guessing that is good- he is now eating his wet dm food. And Lori what was in the smaller little sack- the bigger black one was rice, the smaller one I used as a cushion and after I took his blood he had a blast playing with the little sack. Thanks- I also used your lancets which worked perfectly- what gauge were they? Any how what a difference 24 hours makes- doctor is now playing in spot where I gave him his test so I believe I have reinforced a test site with him. Thanks

Back to larger issue- if he test at 110 after nearly 12 hours after last insulin, but before he eats- I'm guessing no insulin shot. He is very playful now and I was not thrilled with the way he acted the 3-4 hours after the last ouple shots- slept a lot, no real bad symptons but seems very alert now.
 
Woo woo! Congrats!

Definitely no shot now. I would suggest no shot until next shot time, IF he's over 200. And if he's over 200, give maybe just 0.5 units and see what happens. Meanwhile, if you get a chance, test once or twice to see how quickly he goes up from 110.

And nothing is needed on the ear, just pressure for a few seconds

Jen
 
My vet has him (Doctor the Cat) on only a once per day shot since friday. so his next shot is due today at noon cst, which I will skip and then I will test him a couple or few times today and tonite, what time frame should my second test come at- because he is a grazer more than a set time eater. And also I take him to the vet tomm morn at 10:30 so I think I should test him before I go to vet and then the vet will test him there so I could see how the trip effects the cat. It is about a 6-8 mile trip so he has time to get out of whack sometimes.
 
I'm not experienced enough to give 'advice', but if my cat were in the same situation, I would test at 1 hour and 2 hours. If little change, test in 2 hour intervals for a few times. I feel that it owuld give me sufficient data to know how his body was reacting.
 
Well I screwed up a bit in all my excitement. Doctor tested at 110 this morning (2 hours ago) he then ate and I just tested him again and he is at 92. My mistake was when I said earlier that his last insulin shot was almost 12 hours before first test- It was 24 HOURS AGO, vet has had me giving one shot per day, noon yesterday was last insulin- then I tested today and got 110 and gave no insulin. (Sorry if I confused anyone I was so excited to finally complete my first test.)
So in a nutshell he got insulin yesterday, I tested today 24 hours later got a 110, fed him and 2 hours after that he comes in at 92. Anyone have a take on that. Thanks
 
Whoo Hoo Welcome to the Vampire Club! :RAHCAT :RAHCAT :RAHCAT Secret handshake coming later in the mail......

I would test a couple times today, just because you can :mrgreen: and to see what happens. It is interesting to test before feeding and then about 45 minutes later. Edited: You have already seen that as he has come down after a meal. If his numbers come down, you have pancreatic action. Then you can help feed the numbers by dividing up the food into several small meals and feeding during the day and night.

This is good news!
 
Ok, well, this is even better. I was going to write that it is a very rare cat who can go with one shot a day, but it appears your cat may not even need that. Honestly, I would test once or twice in the next 12 hours and see where he's at and how quickly he rises. It may be that by this evening he may need a token (ie small) shot. Stick to a 12/12 ish schedule for potential shots for consistency and see where things go.
 
It is now 1:30 (cst) and I go to work at 3ish, i'll try and test again and then again tonite when I get home at 11pm, usually I leave a tad bit of food out for him to graze (I hear this avoids spiking). Now for 4 days he had only one shot of 1 unit, and today no shot. In fact the vet said give him one unit but I only gave him like 3/4's a unit last couple days. Didn't like way he acted 3-4 hours after shot. I thought his eyes were a tad bit dilated compared to his brother, which was a handy comparison tool. If he is under 200 tonite I'll give no shot. (Previously to last four days it was a shot every 12 hours so if i need to give him a shot tonite at least it'll be on that 12/12 schedule.
And thanks to sue for the cheerleading, pom-pom pussycats, very cool, and lori thanks for the kit. God bless y'all.
 
Just got home from work (live by myself) and not sure how much grazing doc has done, there is another cat- his brother - did a bs test and it came to 123 so I gave him a wet meal, will check him again in 45 mins to a couple hours. It has now been 36 hours since last insulin. Any suggestions on next check. I take him to vet in 10 and a half hours - will check him before I take him tom morn so I can see what the stress of the vet trip does because they will check him also. Not planning an insulin shot for him.
 
i don't think you'll be shooting tonight paul. count your blessings.
 
It has been nearly 48 hours since insulin, and his am pre food test today at 9:30 am cst was 148. He had thrown up water only this morn but I think he had tried to go to bathroom which he did (he pooped and it was a clogged side by side turds) so I think he threw up after trying to go first time. started testing yesterday and it goes like this
Mon noon- last insulin shot
Tues 11:15 am tested at 110 then ate
1:15 pm tested at 92
11:48 pm tested at 123
Wed 9:26 am tested at 148 am going to vet now will be interested to see his numbers there
 
Don't be surprised if they are higher at the vet.

if he was stressed about a bm this morning, that can raise bg levels ( :mrgreen: Can't everything...)
 
Went to vet and his bs test there was 148 also- I think he was stressed at my place because he had thrown up a hour or so before. Vet said to take him off insulin- which I had already done two days ago with the help of all the fine folks at this site. Vet wants to see him again next week and if all is still well again in a month for a fractolose one-month averaging test. Wants me to get him eating more dry dm food, I think so cat can graze it. Do have to say vet has been pretty cool in that he has only charged me for office visits about half the time. Today he spent a full 45 minutes with me and only charged $30 for the test - no office visit.
 
Well that is a reasonable visit :)

Couple of things tho...

1. do NOT give DM dry! or you risk raising those bgs up
2. a fructosamine test is like a two week average, not a one month. It is a reasonable thing to do if you cannot test at home but if you are testing at home then it is a cost you do not need to incur.

Jen
 
NO DRY>>>>>you'll be right back in the game if you do...trust us on this one.
 
Not sure if we have told you that he can graze on wet. You can freeze it and let him eat it as it thaws. If you use an automatic feeder, you can feed him every few hours. And that is best, because the food in several small meals a day will help support his awakening pancreas.
 
Thanks for all the advice. Just so I'll know- why is it that wet is better- are there any liks you can send me to for my own ongoing education on this.
 
Not that I need a link per se, believe me I trust everybody on this site, just wanted explanation for my own good. Thanks
 
Ditto Dr Lisa's site. And more immediately, think of a human diabetic and how they are put on diets that limit simple carbs. Dry food is full of carbs. 'Nuff said :)
 
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