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occhi

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Hello future friends,

My sweet kitty, Dude, was diagnosed with diabetes a mere 5 days ago. He got sick about 3 weeks ago so we took him to our Vet who tested him immediately for diabetes, found his blood sugar to be high and treated it at the time to bring it back down to normal. We then went on vacation for a week, brought him back to the Vet when we returned, his blood was tested again and everything seemed normal so we assumed he was just stressed about us leaving him for a few days (as soon as we bring out the suitcase he knows we are going out of town without him and he immediately goes into stressed out kitty mode). We thought nothing more of it until we started to notice he was rapidly losing weight, 3 lbs in on month it turned out. He has chronic Gingivitis so we thought his teeth were probably just bothering him and we made another appointment with the Vet to get them cleaned. We took him in to have that done last friday (8/12) and also mentioned that he was losing weight. The Vet tested his blood again right there and his blood sugar again was sky high. The couldn't even clean his teeth because they didn't want to risk anasthesia. They decided to keep him over night so that they could get his sugar down. Saturday morning we get a phone call and I thought he was done for right then and there. The doctor said he was not responding to the insulin, that he had 'ketones' in his bladder, and that he hadn't eaten anything the whole time he'd been there. She then said that we needed to take him to an emergency pet care facility as they didn't have the equipment or the manpower to check him as often as they needed to. We picked him up on Saturday morning and he actually looked alot better than they seemed to think he was, so that made us feel a little bit better. The new Vet also made us feel better saying things like 'we may just need to be a little more patient as it can take time for the ketones to leave', but then made me worried all over again with 'we'll have to do an ultrasound to make sure he doesn't have pancreatis'. We had to leave him again on Saturday night. I called them around 10PM and found that the staff were smart enough (thank god) to see that he was highly stressed so they put a blanket over his cage and immediately he calmed down and finally ate. Sunday morning we found out we could finally bring him home though honestly I don't really know if the ketones are gone (I assume they are) or really what to do now besides regulate his food and give him a shot twice a day. When we picked him up the doctor wasn't there and the staff, while they were really nice, just kind of gave us all the stuff and wished us luck. Luckily one of my work friends found this site for me. I've already learned so much from all of you though I know it doesn't even scratch the surface. So here are my first questions.

1) The Vet didn't say anything to us about home testing but it sounds like it is vital. I'm going to ask him about it when I speak with him today but I don't even know what home testing involves (I assume there are posts here that I can read over and I will when I get my lunch break)
2) The Vet DID give us dry cat food to feed Dude though he asked if Dude preferred dry or wet (he's always eaten dry so that just popped out of my mouth but maybe that was the wrong answer). He didn't eat much, if anything, this morning so I'm thinking about getting him some Classic Fancy Feast for tonight. Good or bad idea? (again i will talk to the Vet about his as well before doing it)
3) We have 3 other cats who are stressing out a bit because we are no longer allowing them to graze. Any suggestions about how to get them to eat when the food is out? One cat in particular hasn't eaten regularly since we brought Dude home on sunday. He's making me worry a bit.
4) Dude loves treats. Should I wait to start giving him some until we get his first 7-10 day checkup finished before rewarding him for being good when he gets a shot? Should I reward him when he gets a shot? (another question for the Vet i'm sure)
5) The Vet said if he is lethargic don't give him insulin but he's a cat and a mellow cat. It's a bit hard to tell what lethargic is with him. Any idea about what specifically to watch for?

I'm sure there is a 6-10 set of questions but let's start with that.

About Dude:

He is 7 years old
He has two kitty sisters, one kitty brother, and one puppy brother
He is a black/white mishmash (pretty much looks like a superhero with the mask)
He is the mellowist kitty I've ever met (named after the Dude in the Big Lebowski)
He sounds like a horse when he runs through the house (clipclopclipclop)

:)

I look forward to your replies.
 
Just leaving work, but want to say quick WELCOME AND WILL SPEAK TO YOU LATER TONITE~
 
Wow. Okay, first I'll try to reply to each of your questions, but first Welcome to FDMB. Your friend at work did you a huge service finding this site for you!

1 - Home testing is the single most important and best thing that you can do for Dude. And for yourself. We will tell you all about it, and provide links to videos and information about how it is done. You can use a normal human glucometer and test strips, and you can get a meter and strips at Wal-Mart for less than 30 dollars that will get you started. More later.

2 - Dry food. Big no-no for sugarcats. The carb content is very high in most brands, and you won't find one that is lower in carb value than any flavor of Fancy Feast Classics. You may decide to change from FF later and go with some other canned food, but for now, just getting him to eat FF and no dry is going to greatly reduce his BG levels. It is important, if he's used to a dry diet, to transition to all wet over several days, because it will lower his "sugar", and combined with insulin, it can have almost a "too good" effect. That will also be explained more in depth soon. If you click on the link to "Binkys" in my signature, you can look at some food charts that will show you the carb/protein/fat/calories values for dozen of canned foods, most of which you can get at the grocery store or a pet store like Petco or Petsmart. There's also a dry foods list that will let you see the difference between that and canned. Low-carbs and diabetes are perfect partners. High carbs raise BG.

3 - I keep my cats apart when I feed them, and unfortunately for my non-diabetic, he no longers is allowed to graze on dry food. He doesn't know it yet, but in a couple days when the last of the dry runs out, he's not getting any more. Ever. I do put the bowl down during the day so he can snack, but only when Bob is not able to get in the room. Others may have advice on how to allow the civies to graze while not allowing Dude access to the food trough.

4 - Pretty much everyone here gives kitty a treat as a reward for everything. That is for shots, and for blood tests we do at home. Kitty will soon associate treats with treatment and with feeling better, and he will eventually volunteer for tests and shots. It's amazing to see, but they all seem to learn that behavior once you start home treatments and testing. Bob will, as soon as he hears the zipper on the glucometer case open, come running and lay down in front of me waiting for the ear-prick because he knows it means fresh shrimp! There are lots of low-carb treats we can recommend.

5 - I don't know why the vet would tell you that. Lethargy is a symptom of diabetes, and at first, he's going to be pretty lethargic. Once treatments and diet start to "work", he'll perk up to where he was at before. What the vet might be referring to is signs of hypoglycemia, one of which would be the cat just laying around and looking like he feels like poop. But there are other signs as well, like acting drunk, having trouble walking, falling over. If you see those, that would mean his BG levels may have dropped to a dangerous point. The good news is that if you are home-testing during the day, you'll see the BG numbers at a low point before you see those symptoms generally, and you'll be able to avert that crisis. Again, you'll absorb that later.

What I have tried to do is just give you a quick answer to your questions. Please do not let "us" overwhelm you. There is som much information here that you can't possibly drink it all in within a few days. We'll do this slowly. It is important you get a few bits of info right up front so that you can begin the sugardance with Dude. So breath, and ask questions. People are always on line that can help and advise.

I'll write more later. And so will lots of other folks!

Carl in SC
 
A couple questions for you -

Did your vet prescribe insulin? If so, what type, and what sort of dosing?
Has Dude been receiving regular insulin shots at home, or just at the vet?

Those are important for us to know so we can figure out where Dude is at in the treatment scheme of things.


Carl in SC
 
occhi said:
1) The Vet didn't say anything to us about home testing but it sounds like it is vital. I'm going to ask him about it when I speak with him today but I don't even know what home testing involves (I assume there are posts here that I can read over and I will when I get my lunch break)

Unfortunately a lot of vets either do not teach their pet owners about hometesting or try to discourage it. But think of it this way, if Dude was your child, would you give insulin unless you knew it was safe to give it? Hometesting is using a human glucose meter to test the blood glucose (BG) levels to make sure the level is not too low to give insulin. If you give insulin when the BG levels are too low, you risk hypoglycemia which can be serious or deadly. You will test before every shot and also can test in between.


occhi said:
2) The Vet DID give us dry cat food to feed Dude though he asked if Dude preferred dry or wet (he's always eaten dry so that just popped out of my mouth but maybe that was the wrong answer). He didn't eat much, if anything, this morning so I'm thinking about getting him some Classic Fancy Feast for tonight. Good or bad idea? (again i will talk to the Vet about his as well before doing it)

Fancy Feast is a great choice. Many of us feed our cats Fancy Feast or Friskies. There are also many other cat foods that are low carbs. You want to switch all of your cats diets to canned food and get rid of the dry. Also, you do not need to feed your cat prescription foods either, even if your vet tries to convince you otherwise.


occhi said:
3) We have 3 other cats who are stressing out a bit because we are no longer allowing them to graze. Any suggestions about how to get them to eat when the food is out? One cat in particular hasn't eaten regularly since we brought Dude home on sunday. He's making me worry a bit.

Try to change all of their diets to canned foods. Some cats are easier to convert than others. Also, if you can get them on a regular feeding schedule, that will help. Most cats will only skip one or two meals before they figure out that they need to eat when food is available. You may need to keep the one cat that is not eating in a separate room with food to help him adjust.


occhi said:
4) Dude loves treats. Should I wait to start giving him some until we get his first 7-10 day checkup finished before rewarding him for being good when he gets a shot? Should I reward him when he gets a shot? (another question for the Vet i'm sure)

Low carb treats are a great idea. Freeze dried meats are a great treat. Give them whenever you give a shot and also when you test. Even if the test is not successful, Dude still gets a treat. Soon he will associate getting tested and a shot with getting a treat and may soon remind you when it is time to test. :lol:

occhi said:
5) The Vet said if he is lethargic don't give him insulin but he's a cat and a mellow cat. It's a bit hard to tell what lethargic is with him. Any idea about what specifically to watch for?

This is another reason to learn to hometest. Many cats do not show any symptoms of hypoglycemia until their BG levels are extremely low. This is very dangerous and could lead to permanent blindness, brain damage or death. If you suspect something may be wrong, testing will let you know if it is hypoglycemia. There is almost always someone on this board so if that happens or you have any other questions, please ask.

What insulin is Dude getting and what is his dose?
 
occhi said:
1) The Vet didn't say anything to us about home testing but it sounds like it is vital. I'm going to ask him about it when I speak with him today but I don't even know what home testing involves (I assume there are posts here that I can read over and I will when I get my lunch break)

Unfortunately a lot of vets either do not teach their pet owners about hometesting or try to discourage it. But think of it this way, if Dude was your child, would you give insulin unless you knew it was safe to give it? Hometesting is using a human glucose meter to test the blood glucose (BG) levels to make sure the level is not too low to give insulin. If you give insulin when the BG levels are too low, you risk hypoglycemia which can be serious or deadly. You will test before every shot and also can test in between.


occhi said:
2) The Vet DID give us dry cat food to feed Dude though he asked if Dude preferred dry or wet (he's always eaten dry so that just popped out of my mouth but maybe that was the wrong answer). He didn't eat much, if anything, this morning so I'm thinking about getting him some Classic Fancy Feast for tonight. Good or bad idea? (again i will talk to the Vet about his as well before doing it)

Fancy Feast is a great choice. Many of us feed our cats Fancy Feast or Friskies. There are also many other cat foods that are low carbs. You want to switch all of your cats diets to canned food and get rid of the dry. Also, you do not need to feed your cat prescription foods either, even if your vet tries to convince you otherwise.


occhi said:
3) We have 3 other cats who are stressing out a bit because we are no longer allowing them to graze. Any suggestions about how to get them to eat when the food is out? One cat in particular hasn't eaten regularly since we brought Dude home on sunday. He's making me worry a bit.

Try to change all of their diets to canned foods. Some cats are easier to convert than others. Also, if you can get them on a regular feeding schedule, that will help. Most cats will only skip one or two meals before they figure out that they need to eat when food is available. You may need to keep the one cat that is not eating in a separate room with food to help him adjust.


occhi said:
4) Dude loves treats. Should I wait to start giving him some until we get his first 7-10 day checkup finished before rewarding him for being good when he gets a shot? Should I reward him when he gets a shot? (another question for the Vet i'm sure)

Low carb treats are a great idea. Freeze dried meats are a great treat. Give them whenever you give a shot and also when you test. Even if the test is not successful, Dude still gets a treat. Soon he will associate getting tested and a shot with getting a treat and may soon remind you when it is time to test. :lol:

occhi said:
5) The Vet said if he is lethargic don't give him insulin but he's a cat and a mellow cat. It's a bit hard to tell what lethargic is with him. Any idea about what specifically to watch for?

This is another reason to learn to hometest. Many cats do not show any symptoms of hypoglycemia until their BG levels are extremely low. This is very dangerous and could lead to permanent blindness, brain damage or death. If you suspect something may be wrong, testing will let you know if it is hypoglycemia. There is almost always someone on this board so if that happens or you have any other questions, please ask.

What insulin is Dude getting and what is his dose?

Feline diabetes is very manageable disease. This is done through hometesting, low carb/high protein diet and insulin. I realize it all may be very overwhelming right now, but it will not take long before you find a routine that works best for you. We have all been where you are right now and we are here to help you.
 
Wow thanks for all the super quick, excellent help so far!

I knew in that huge post I made that I was leaving out important stuff. Like:

1) Yes we are giving him insulin twice a day. I'm at work right now so I can't tell you what kind it is (to be honest I didn't even look at it, I just assumed the doctor knew what he was talking about (not that he doesn't but I know after reading many posts here already that I have to take responsibility for all of this starting right now. Pretending I don't NEED to know everything is a bad attitude :)). I will get the name and post it for your later this evening.

2) the dose -- (sorry I'm just learning all the terms and right now my brain is fried) he gets up to the third line on the needle. 3ML? That totally doesn't sound right. I'll figure that out and post it also.

I did actually notice on the thursday before we found out he had this that Dude was being really clumsy. He's usually a pretty graceful cat but he kept jumping down, or up, and missing his footing. That was another thing that led me to believe something was just not right so I will definitely watch for that. Thank you for reminding me, thats an easy one to watch for.

I still haven't spoken to the Vet yet today but he told us when we talked to him on Saturday that hes usually got appointments until 3 (its 3:30 here now) so I'm hoping he will call in the next few minutes. If he doesn't call I'm not sure if I should start moving Dude to soft food tonight or wait until I confirm with him.

You're absolutely right about not giving a child a medicine I wasn't 100% sure about. I don't have human kids but I really didn't like that they just kind of threw the medicine at us and that was it. Not even a mention of testing at home? That confused me. But the whole weekend was a bit of a mess so I thought maybe it was just me. Holy crap I am wordy today. How bout I stop talking for now until I get you guys some cold hard facts? :P I'll let you know about the insulin type/dose.

Thanks for everything you do!

tmjn
 
Hello Ochi - I was sitting where you are only two weeks ago, and hopefully can convey that you will get through this, and you will get all of this...... I promise.

A few quick tips to help save some time:

Home testing: As you've figured out - it's essential. You do not need your Vet's permission, but their support is obviously helpful. I spent a bunch of time figuring out which was the best meter, etc....because there's lots out there. For me, I chose the Freestyle Lite, Abbott makes it and you can find it just about at any drug store. The selling point for me was the tiny, tiny amount of blood needed to "make it work"; the least amount on the market. I've been more than pleased with it.

Here's all that is needed to Home Test:
Meter
Test Strips (that match the meter)
Lancets (to poke the hole)

The meter will usually have a few of each of the strips and lancets to get you through a few days. You can buy replacements at the same place or search on line. I bought my first month's supply at the drug store, but have since found Ebay to be a pretty inexpensive source for future orders.

I test on my cats paw, but am definitely the minority. The ear seems to be the "spot", but my guy just doesn't seem to bleed well from them. There are great links that I know will be provided in subsequent emails on how to test on different sites - really good stuff.

Communication:
Once you test, post, post, post your numbers so that someone can help you in these first few days as you're trying to understand it all. Ask advice before doing anything that you're not sure of. THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST ADVICE I CAN GIVE YOU!!!! Someone will be here, ready and willing to help.

Food
As everyone mentioned, Fancy Feast Classic (it really says Classic on the can) is the easiest out of the gate.
I've been boiling a chicken breast in water and cutting it up serving as treats - piece of cake.

These simple things will get you through the first week until you're more comfortable with the info.

Please do let us know what dose your doctor prescribed. It's not uncommon that they start wayyyyy too high.
 
I should have mentioned...
About the canned cat foods lists - most of the Fancy Feast Classic flavors are on the "old" canned food list, not the new one. But look at both of them, because they will give you lots of other options that are just as low in carbs, and some cats, when you are changing them to canned food, decide they like one brand/flavor over another. Don't consider any canned foods whose carb content is higher than 10%. That's sort of the line we draw. You'll see many that are 5% or less. The really important thing to keep in mind is that Dude needs to eat. If he turns up his nose at some food that is 5%, but will gobble one that is 9 or 10%, then let him have his way at first. In order to safely give insulin, which lowers BG, Dude has to be eating decently (which will raise BG). If the food doesn't give him a BG boost, then the insulin will have a greater impact on a normal dose. That can push the BG too low, and sometimes you might have to reduce the dose in order to be safe. That's not a problem right now, just something to keep in mind.

Regarding the dose. I "think" the third line might be 3 units of insulin, but that depends on what type of syringes they gave you. They should be clearly numbered, but they could be whole unit or half unit markings. Make sure and let us know that. If it is 3 units, twice a day - which in FDMB lingo would be "3u BID", that would generally be considered a larger than normal starting dose. But that might also depend on any other conditions Dude was found to have by the vet. It would help if you knew, or could ask the vet, what he based his starting dosage on - could be other conditions he found in the bloodwork results, could be Dude's weight, or what type of insulin he gave you. We can't just say "That's too high" (although it might seem to be for most people here) if there are specific reasons why the vet started him at that dose. So, tell us what the numbers on the syringe say when you draw up his dose, and what type of insulin it is and we'll know more.

Carl in SC
 
Welcome!

When my cat was diagnosed at Easter, I found this stie and read all the stuff (on the main site and also the sticky notes in the forums).
I bought a Relion Micro at Walmart 2 days later (it does not come with strips - you have to get those at the pharmacy counter, and they were closed on Easter Sunday when I got the meter) and started testing on the 5th day. the meter, box of 50 strips, and lancets (meter comes with like 10, but not the gague I wanted) will cost around $35. I buy the lancets, 28 gague, at Target because their brand comes with a little cap. Cedric puts everything in his mouth, even though he is nearly 6! I also bought a sharpes container for a few bucks to dispose of the syringes and lancets.

He eats all canned food now - see below. Wellness and Evo are his favorites, but i also buy BFF, Earthbourne, and Werva (although I don't think he likes that last brand too much). I buy Friskies (but that is for the stray cat, another thread - lol) and fancy feast classic occasionally. I use an auto feeder to feed Cedric a meal between (10-11 am) and 3-4pm. I feed him 2 other meals early am and later at night. I think that helps - 4 smaller meals a day instead of 2 regular meals.

I used to feed him dry and canned. When the gang here convinced me to give up the dry (5/19), note the drop in his BG numbers (see spreadsheet below). Two days later, he was coming up normal. Hasn't had insulin since 5/21 - on Lantus for a month. He is still testeds 2-3 times per week, I am just lousey at updating his spsh.

Read the stuff, watch the videos - you can hometest and get your cat stablized! :-D
 
Hi and welcome.

You will find people here anytime, day and night, to answer general or emergency questions. You can count on us, really.

Independent of the type of insulin, there are a lot of general suggestions around diet, how to test blood sugar, and what to do if the blood sugar is dangerously low (hypoglycemic). But the type of insulin is pretty important to how you should use it for treatment. There are a lot of specific suggestions for dosing which depend on the type of insulin you end up using, and how frequently you are able to test and monitor Dude.

It sounds like you may have caught this very early on, and the earlier you get the diabetes under control in cats, the better they do.
 
Good evening!

ok here is the scoop. The insulin is called Prozinc and we give him 3 units (the syringes are called 3/10cc Insulin Syringes, dunno if that helps). Dude ate well tonight and he seems really good right now. My other boy cat, Jack, finally ate too. Tonight it is sister #1, Mushu, to decide she doesn't want food. Working on her right now.

kittyluvs
tmjn
 
I can't help much with Prozinc (aka PZI), since I've only used Lantus, but here is some more detail behind the general testing, emergency, and food suggestions. This is somewhat redundant to what others have said, but I appreciated hearing the advice a few different ways when I started, so hopefully this helps you:

You need to learn to measure your cat’s Glucose level at home
  • Supplies Needed:
  • Human Glucose Meter: There are many choices, most good. One of the cheapest meter and strips widely available is the ReliOn Micro from Walmart Pharmacy. It costs ~15USD, and the test strips cost ~40USD for 100.
    Most other strips and meters are just as good, so long as they need 0.3ul of blood or less.
    Spending extra for a Feline calibrated meter is generally unnecessary.
  • Test Strips for the meter: These are sometimes behind the counter at the pharmacy, but no prescription is required.
    Most strips are much cheaper online.
  • Lancet: This is the sharp pin that draws the blood droplet for the meter to read. New testers (and new cats) should start with “fatter” 28G lancets (5-15USD for 100) to use either with the Lancet Device (a.k.a Lancet Pen) supplied with the meter, or with a separate lancet device (5-20USD)

    Technique:
    Different techniques work for different cats, so you will need to experiment to find what works for you. You will also need practice. It will probably take a couple weeks for you and your cat to get comfortable.
    The definitive post is Hometesting Links and Tips.
You need a kit of various emergency and additional testing supplies
  • [*]Please Please Please put together these emergency supplies immediately, ideally before you give your next insulin shot
  • Print out and POST PROMINANTLY these two posts:
    How to treat HYPOS - THEY CAN KILL!
    List of Hypo Symptoms
  • Hypoglycemia Emergency Toolkit: See this post
  • Ketone urine test strips: KetoDiastix for ~15USD for 50 measure both ketones and urine glucose and are available at most pharmacies.
Change to a Very Low Carbohydrate cat food diet
Caution: A low-carbohydrate diet may not be appropriate for some cats with health conditions such as chronic renal failure or pancreatitis; check with your vet to see if this diet is appropriate.
  • Even before discussing starting insulin, diet change is frequently critical to long-term improvement in Feline Diabetes. Specifically, transitioning to a wet food diet with <10% carb energy content is strongly recommended in this forum.
    Unfortunately, accurate values for the carbohydrate content of any given food are not readily available, but the following list is one of the more comprehensive available. Binky's Nutritional Information Page
    Here is a detailed discussion for making the transition for your cat: Transitioning your cat from dry to wet food
  • The sooner you make the transition, the easier it will be. You will need to be careful to transition slowly to ensure that you don’t accidentally overdose as your cat’s insulin needs drop.
  • Print out the list and bring it with you to the store. You are most likely to find Friskies Classic Pate, 9-Lives Dinners, Fancy Feast (see the “old” list), and Special Kitty (Walmart)
  • Your vet may recommend a prescription diet, such as Hills M/D. These prescription diets are not nearly as low in carbohydrate content as the commercially available options, and much more expensive.

Start Tracking and Asking for Help
  • People on this message board will take the time to read and learn everything that you make available, and use that information to give you the best possible advice. In order to help make that easier, there are a few pieces of technology that we use.
  • The Spreadsheet is the most important piece of information you can accumulate for yourself and share to get advice: How to Create Your Own SS and Publish It in Your Signature. Unfortunately, this does not always work smoothly the first time, but once it is setup it is very easy to use. Ask for help if you are having trouble, and check here if the templates don't work
 
Here's the link to the PZI BOARD. Do shoot a question over there as soon as possible as they'll be able to help you out with the dose! You've received GREAT info thus far on the other important immediate pieces! You are definitely in the right place :-D
 
Welcome DUDE!
While I was waiting on my home testing kit, (recieved from this site - Lori & Tom) Sugar Bean and I played 'lets pokey poke". I found us a special chair, towel and treat...We would sit in the chair, love, talk and give treats. I started rubbing the ears, and making it our special time.

After recieving the kit, I got the lancet pen out but did not load it. I would rub her ears with the warmed up rice sock, love, treat and click the pen while holding it to her ear so that she could get used to the sound, etc....treat, praise, lovin.

By the time mommy found her 'big girl panties' and decided to try testing, Bean was used to the sound, chair and lots of extra attention! But, mommy was still very scared! lol... And Bean was patient!

She was on PZI as well - 1 unit 2 times a day.... Switched to low carb food, list supplied by this site, and we/she was entered into the sugardance. This was mid April....By 5/25, Sugar Bean received her last shot and was (OTJ - OFF THE JUICE) in remission! :dizcat

Thank gosh for this site as my vet did not recommend home testing, doing the one and only curve for her 1 wk after dx...Which he increased to 2 units! I DID NOT~ thanks to this site!

I did have a very very close call with her on the first night that I was able to test..... I had tried several times with the right ear, and was not successful! That night, I thought I would try the other ear, we did great and I got my first home test reading.....however, I did not do this BEFORE I gave her the shot! She was only 27 and it was only 2 hours after the shot, we still had many hours to go!!!!! This site spend 4 + hours with me getting my Beans number back in the right range and she was finally safe! I will say that I promised my Bean girl to never ever shoot her before testing first! She thanks me every morning when I am able to see her beautiful eyes smiling at me!

Not meaning to ramble....welcome here! Paw hugs to ya
 
Thanks to everyone who has helped so far. Such good information.

@Sam and S'mores, I printed How to treat HYPOS - THEY CAN KILL! and List of Hypo Symptoms before I even registered to this site. They are both stuck to my refridgerator with glue (kidding, sort of). I am printing toolkit now and will work tonight on getting my emergency kit together. Dude ate his first partial soft food meal last night and seemed to really enjoy it. We only gave him about 1/4 soft mixed with 3/4 crunchy (total of 1/4 cup) so we can up that a little bit every day until he is onto soft food only. I am still worried about his teeth but we may just have to make more dental appointments for him. We did get a box of Classic Fancy Feast for him last night at the store and since he did really like it we will probably stick with it.

I am checking out the spreadsheet right now (while I have a short break at work) and will let you know if I have any trouble.

BTW I am positive I've looked at Binky's Food tables a few months ago when I was thinking about moving all of my cats to canned food to help with thier weight. Who knew I'd need it to control a sick kitties food.

BTW part 2, I told you a friend of mine found this site for me but apparently my Vet told hubby about it also. Even Vets know you guys are the best :) Keep up the amazing work.

kittyluvs
tmjn
 
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