New Member (8/30/25) - Unsure of Vet's Recommendation

Mika

New Member
My 7-year-old cat was recently diagnosed with diabetes on August 15.

After her diagnosis, the vet kept her to get a blood glucose curve. She was prescribed 2 units of Vetsulin twice daily and Hill’s m/d dry food.

Since then, I’ve been doing some research, and I noticed that the recommendations I’ve read online seem to differ from what my vet suggested. For context, I live in a smaller town where most vets treat a wide range of animals, not just cats and dogs, so I’m not sure how much specific experience with feline diabetes they have.

When I asked about monitoring blood glucose at home, I was advised not to do it, with the reasoning that it wasn’t necessary and would only stress my cat.

I am scheduled to take her back for a recheck on September 19.

I’d really appreciate some advice:
  • Is this treatment plan reasonable as it stands and the best option for seeing remission?
  • Should I seek out a second opinion from a different vet?
  • Or would it be better to try and discuss alternative options with my current vet at the upcoming appointment?
Any insight or shared experiences would mean a lot.
 
Welcome :)

Vetsulin and prescription diet is pretty old school. You can ignore the vet about the food and just feed what this board recommends which is low carb canned food. The prescription food is like a Human doctor telling a diabetic patient to eat sugar loaded carb heavy foods. The insulin you'll need to discuss in depth with the vet. Lantus and ProZinc are the preferred insulin of choice to use. Lantus is a Human insulin so you buy it from a Human pharmacy with a prescription. ProZinc is a pet insulin and your vet may sell it or give you a prescription to buy from a veterinary pharmacy such as Chewy.com. There are boards for both insulins here. Read through the sticky posts at the top and share the links to the published veterinary articles that support both insulins with your vet.

Some vets are willing to discuss other treatments. If your vet doesn't want to listen to your concerns, then get a second opinion from another vet practice. You don't necessarily need a cat only vet or a specialist, just someone who you feel comfortable working with and is open to trying new treatments.

There are also published veterinary articles and studies that encourage home testing at home for better management of blood glucose levels. Home testing is way less stressful to a cat and the readings are more accurate. There was a recent study on how a stressful vet visits results in high blood glucose levels and other blood values, Stress induced hyperglycemia and the influence of hormones Home testing is always less expensive to do. Blindy giving insulin is dangerous. It's important to know what the blood glucose level is at insulin time and how the body is responding to the insulin. If you suspect hypo, you need to test to see exaclty how low the blood glucose level is and treat appropriately.
 
Welcome to FDMB, Well, you are absolutely correct to have doubts in the Vets recommendations. To start with the curves are just fine to do at home, you do not need an expensive bill for that, a curve is simply testing every 2 hours for 1 cycle (day) or two, and it is of the outmost importance to home test, you do not want to give insulin without knowing the cat's glucose numbers, it can lead to hypoglycemia, and other complications, and third, the Hills dry kibble food, he sold you, has between 25-30% carbs, diabetic cats need to have a diet between 0-10% wet can food like Fancy Feast pates, most of the members and cats like the flavor variety, there are many vets that are not familiar with Feline Diabetes, and treat as if it were a dog, FD is a whole new ball game. We will be more than happy to can help you, this Forum has saved many cats lives, including my Corky's, We are though, very numbers oriented, home testing is very important before each shot and 2-3 times during the day, most of the members use the ReliOn Premier human monitor and strips, you can purchase it at Walmart, the monitor is $19.99 and the strips are $9.00 for 50 strips and $17.88 for 100, is good to have extras at handy especially as you learn to test, we also need to know more about your cat, we would like you to create your signature and a spreadsheet, links below, in our Main Forum there are sticky notes that have much valuable information, also a Drs food list link, Drs food chart ( carbs are on the third column) link and carb calculator, you use the nutrient %s to calculate the dry matter carb content
and please post any other concerns you may have, we are here for you, in the meantime, I will tag a very knowledgeable member on Vetsulin to help you with those answers although Lantus and ProZinc are a better insulin for cats :cat:

Sticky - New? How You Can Help Us Help You!
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/how-to-create-a-spreadsheet.241706/

Info - Dr. Pierson - new Food Chart
http://scheyderweb.com/cats/catfood.htm
@Sienne and Gabby (GA)
 
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Welcome to FDMB.

Squeem3 is correct. Since 2018, the American Animal Hospital Assn (AAHA) no longer recommends Vetsulin for the treatment of feline diabetes. Vetsulin, or as it's known outside of the US -- Caninsulin, was developed for the treatment of diabetes in dogs. As a result, it is not suitable for cats since cats have a much faster metabolism than dogs. What this means is that Vetsulin doesn't last for the 12-hour cycle. (And FYI, a cycle is 12-hours/2 cycles in a day. A cycle is NOT a day in length.) I'm linking the guidelines from the AAHA for your convenience and it may be a means of starting a discussion with your vet. The two insulins that are recommended, as noted above, are Lantus (or its generic/biosimilar, glargine) or Prozinc.

There have been any number of vets who have published in well respected journals that home testing is essential for managing diabetes. Also, there is a section starting on page 10 of the AAHA guidelines that supports home testing. As a comparison, could you imagine any human doctor telling you to not test your (or a family member's) blood glucose levels? In a few words, not testing is unsafe. A cat cannot easily communicate that their blood glucose level is dangerously low or if it's unsafe to give an insulin injection. The only way you know is to home test. While many people opt to use a pet specific glucometer (e.g., AlphaTrack), the strips are expensive. Even more people here use a Relion (Walmart) meter as the strips are the least expensive around. We have lots of resources to help you learn how to home test. If you were to poll our members, there are likely a handful of cats who won't tolerate getting their ear poked with a sharp object. The majority, though, learn that what you're doing helps them to feel better and if you give a treat when you test, it will speed up the process of your cat putting up with the pokes.

As far as prescription food, I'd encourage you to read the label. There is nothing in the food that is "prescription." In fact, the pet food manufacturers lost a class action lawsuit for calling their foods prescription. The Hill's M/D dry food is high in carbs -- approximately 18% carbs. We consider low carb as under 10% and many members here feed their cat a diet that is roughly 5% carb. The ingredients are also not ideal. My favorite ingredient is powdered cellulose. This is the polite term for sawdust.

We also encourage that you feed your cat canned food rather than dry. There are a couple of reasons. Most dry food is very high in carbs. There are only 2 or 3 brands that are low in carbs. Cats have a limited thirst drive. In the wild, they get most of their liquid from eating live prey. Dry food is, well, dry. The limited moisture in dry food is not great for the kidneys. It's especially the case for a diabetic cat since diabetes is hard on the kidneys. The AAHA guidelines also support the use of canned food over dry. There is an excellent website, written by a vet, that discusses feline nutrition.

If you like/respect your vet, I'd have a frank discussion with her. Vets in a general practice have to treat any animal that comes through the door (as well as any they have to visit if they also treat farm/large animals). In other words, they can't be experts at everything. A lot will depend on whether your vet will encourage you to keep learning and asking questions or is more of the "my way or the highway" type of thinking. I got push back from my vet over prescription food when I was returning a ton of it. I then asked her what the percentage of carbs was in what she asked me to buy. She didn't know. When I told her, she was embarrassed.

Please let us know how we can help.
 
Welcome to FDMB.

Squeem3 is correct. Since 2018, the American Animal Hospital Assn (AAHA) no longer recommends Vetsulin for the treatment of feline diabetes. Vetsulin, or as it's known outside of the US -- Caninsulin, was developed for the treatment of diabetes in dogs. As a result, it is not suitable for cats since cats have a much faster metabolism than dogs. What this means is that Vetsulin doesn't last for the 12-hour cycle. (And FYI, a cycle is 12-hours/2 cycles in a day. A cycle is NOT a day in length.) I'm linking the guidelines from the AAHA for your convenience and it may be a means of starting a discussion with your vet. The two insulins that are recommended, as noted above, are Lantus (or its generic/biosimilar, glargine) or Prozinc.

There have been any number of vets who have published in well respected journals that home testing is essential for managing diabetes. Also, there is a section starting on page 10 of the AAHA guidelines that supports home testing. As a comparison, could you imagine any human doctor telling you to not test your (or a family member's) blood glucose levels? In a few words, not testing is unsafe. A cat cannot easily communicate that their blood glucose level is dangerously low or if it's unsafe to give an insulin injection. The only way you know is to home test. While many people opt to use a pet specific glucometer (e.g., AlphaTrack), the strips are expensive. Even more people here use a Relion (Walmart) meter as the strips are the least expensive around. We have lots of resources to help you learn how to home test. If you were to poll our members, there are likely a handful of cats who won't tolerate getting their ear poked with a sharp object. The majority, though, learn that what you're doing helps them to feel better and if you give a treat when you test, it will speed up the process of your cat putting up with the pokes.

As far as prescription food, I'd encourage you to read the label. There is nothing in the food that is "prescription." In fact, the pet food manufacturers lost a class action lawsuit for calling their foods prescription. The Hill's M/D dry food is high in carbs -- approximately 18% carbs. We consider low carb as under 10% and many members here feed their cat a diet that is roughly 5% carb. The ingredients are also not ideal. My favorite ingredient is powdered cellulose. This is the polite term for sawdust.

We also encourage that you feed your cat canned food rather than dry. There are a couple of reasons. Most dry food is very high in carbs. There are only 2 or 3 brands that are low in carbs. Cats have a limited thirst drive. In the wild, they get most of their liquid from eating live prey. Dry food is, well, dry. The limited moisture in dry food is not great for the kidneys. It's especially the case for a diabetic cat since diabetes is hard on the kidneys. The AAHA guidelines also support the use of canned food over dry. There is an excellent website, written by a vet, that discusses feline nutrition.

If you like/respect your vet, I'd have a frank discussion with her. Vets in a general practice have to treat any animal that comes through the door (as well as any they have to visit if they also treat farm/large animals). In other words, they can't be experts at everything. A lot will depend on whether your vet will encourage you to keep learning and asking questions or is more of the "my way or the highway" type of thinking. I got push back from my vet over prescription food when I was returning a ton of it. I then asked her what the percentage of carbs was in what she asked me to buy. She didn't know. When I told her, she was embarrassed.

Please let us know how we can help.
Thank you all for the information and advice! It’s incredibly helpful. I’ll definitely bring up the AAHA guidelines at my cat’s next appointment. I just moved recently, and this was my first time bringing her to this vet, so I don’t really have an opinion about them yet.

My main concern right now is that her next scheduled check-up isn’t for another 3 weeks, which will be about 5 weeks since she first started insulin. That feels like a long time to wait without any follow-up, especially since I keep reading how important it is to monitor closely in the beginning. I’m wondering if I should try to take her to a different vet in the meantime or if it’s better to wait it out and push for a more thorough conversation at the next scheduled visit.
 
Thank you all for the information and advice! It’s incredibly helpful. I’ll definitely bring up the AAHA guidelines at my cat’s next appointment. I just moved recently, and this was my first time bringing her to this vet, so I don’t really have an opinion about them yet.

My main concern right now is that her next scheduled check-up isn’t for another 3 weeks, which will be about 5 weeks since she first started insulin. That feels like a long time to wait without any follow-up, especially since I keep reading how important it is to monitor closely in the beginning. I’m wondering if I should try to take her to a different vet in the meantime or if it’s better to wait it out and push for a more thorough conversation at the next scheduled visit.
The main concern for me is giving insulin without testing her BG level if not tested before dosing can be dangerous and it is a long time before you see the vet, in the main forum page you will find threads on how to test, tricks and where to test which would be the tip of the ear, is your choice to wait if you must to see the vet, but if you are dosing you definitely need to test, if you want us to help you in the meantime use the links I send you, I will also tag Sienne she can affirm my view and or add her input, remember you know your cat better than the vet, and you want was best for her I’m sure
 
If you've not started home testing, I'd strongly encourage you to do so. Even if you had a vet appointment that was sooner, I'd make the same recommendation. Quite honestly, most of the members here do not rely on their vet to make dose adjustments. We actually have guidelines to assist you with Vetsulin dosing. You can always post here and we can offer guidance if you're not sure what to do.

Please look over the link I provided. One of the bigger issues with Vetsulin is how quickly it starts working. You want to test your cat's blood glucose, feed your cat, wait 20 - 30 min, then give a shot. It's important that you've given your cat food in advance of a shot. (This isn't the case with some of the other types of insulin.)
 
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