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I just found out today that my Hunter has diabetes. I am going to have a consultation with the vet next week to go over treatment. I am feeling overwhelmed with all of this and don't even know what kind of questions to ask him. I have been reading things on this site for a couple hours. It absolutely is terrifying me, can I do this?
 
Yes, you absolutely can and we will help you. Everyone who posts to you is paying it forward. We all came here terrified and overwhelmed. We learned a little more day by day, felt a little more in control and eventually got our kitty regulated or in remission.

We would like you to feed wet lo carb food. If you aren't going to get insulin until next week, you could start a lo carb diet now. If Hunter has a pretty good stomach, you can change fast or if he has trouble with food, you can do it slowly. Tips for transition: www.catinfo.org. It is a great first step. When we changed Oliver from dry to wet, his numbers went down 100 points overnight.

Which brings me to the most important thing you can do to help Hunter - test him at home. We figure we would test our 2 legged children; we do the same for our 4 legged ones. We use human glucometers and test their ears: Video for hometesting We have taught hundreds of people how to do it over the internet. We would love to help you.

We are all kitty fanatics and we know that diabetes can be a terrifying diagnosis. We also know it is one of the easiest diseases to manage in cats, and it can be done at home, inexpensively. Keep reading. Ask questions. Come on just to vent. We'll be here!
 
Hi and welcome to FDMB. We all understand how you feel, we were all where you are now. While a diagnosis of feline diabetes is scary and overwhelming, let me assure you that it is something that is very managable and these feelings will go away quickly.

You can manage Hunter's diabetes through a proper diet, hometesting and insulin. For diet you want a low carb/high protein canned or raw food diet. If you are feeding Hunter dry food, you want to wean him off of it. Though not all cats can successfully do it, we have had many cats on this list that get their blood glucose levels under control with a change to a proper diet and are able to no longer need insulin to help them. You do not need a prescription diet if your vet tries to convince you of this. Many of us feed our cats either Fancy Feast or Friskies canned foods.

Next, we highly recommend learning to hometest. You want to test Hunter's glucose levels before every shot. By doing this, you will know if it is safe to give him insulin and prevent hypoglycemia. Hopefully your vet is one that supports hometesting. But even if not, you do not need your vet's permission to hometest, Hunter is your cat and you need to do what is best for him.

Last is insulin. There are several insulins that work well with cats: Lantus, Levemir, PZI and Prozinc. The first two are human insulins. If your vet does prescribe either one of these, ask for a prescription for either the pens or cartridges instead of the vials. They have a limited shelf life of about a couple months before they start becoming ineffective and if you get the vials, you will end up wasting money because you throw a lot of it away. With the pens or cartridges, you will use almost every drop. If you do get a prescription for Lantus pens, there is also a coupon in the Supply Closet that will save you some money on your first prescription. Also, with insulin, you want to start at a low dose and gradually over a period of weeks, slowly increase it as needed. If you hometest, you will be able to determine the dose that works best for Hunter.

Continue reading the information on this site and please ask any question you may have. Like I said, we have all been where you are now and are here to help you.
 
Welcome! My cat Willie was diagnosed on December 7th, and I remember how completely overwhelmed I felt. We found our way to here, and the folks here have been absolute angels to us, and in that short 3 months, I've seen my Willie's health make a dramatic improvement. It's also amazing how what seemed so scary... ear pokes and insulin shots... has just become part of our normal everyday routine.

I would echo what others have said... the three keys to start really are: 1) a diabetes-friendly diet (wet food that is low in carbohydrates); 2) hometesting to ensure your cat's safety and understand how the insulin is working in their system; and 3) a long-acting insulin with a proven track record in treating feline diabetes. Others are right... if your vet should prescribe Lantus or Levemir, the pens are a much more economical option... just be sure to make it clear to the pharmacist that you do NOT need the pen needles that humans use, but rather you need some U-100 3/10cc insulin syringes, preferably with half-unit markings on them. The pens come in a 5 pack that usually sells for $175-250 in the US, depending on the area. Many here order from canadian pharmacies at a much lower cost. Also, if you have a Costco nearby, many of their pharmacies will sell the pens individually. While it doesn't really "save" you money, it does help to stretch out the payments for supplies. You don't have to have a Costco membership to use their pharmacies... it's the law. If you don't have a Costco, many hospital outpatient pharmacies will sell you individual pens as well, so it is to your advantage to call around. Be sure to take advantage of any prescription discount options you might have... for example, AAA offers discounts at many pharmacies.

If money is tight, there are definitely ways to keep costs under control. If you look in the Calculating Carb % sticky, there is a link to Janet & Binky's food charts, which will help you to pick out foods that are low in carbohydrates. We generally recommend a carb % of no higher than 10%, but many of us stick to under 5% as a general rule. There are TONS of economical options on the list, including Sophisticat (petsmart), special kitty (walmart) or friskies/9 lives.

If you have access to a Walmart, the relion syringes work quite well and are very affordable. Many of us here use their Relion home testing meter ($9) which has very affordable test strips ($20 for 50 or $12 for 20), but other stores also have economical options. Many of us get strips online for similar or cheaper prices as well. The last thing you'll want to pick up is some ketone strips. It is important to test your cat's urine for ketones regularly when first getting started. Ketones in the system can lead to Diabetic Ketoacidosis (DKA), a very dangerous and often fatal condition for diabetic cats. Regular ketone testing will help you detect ketones right away and treat them before they turn into something serious.

Websites such as Hocks.com or americandiabeteswholesale.com are excellent sources for supplies, as is ebay.

While this new chapter in your life may seem like a scary one, you're in the right place. With the resources here, you can walk into your vet appointment well educated about how to best help Hunter achieve better health. You're on that path now, and Hunter is very lucky to have a human that is so committed to his care that she is scouring the internet looking for information about his condition. :)

Please feel free to ask lots of questions... we're happy to help!
 
Hi Hunter's parent, and, of course, you too, extra-sweet Hunter,

helpforhunter said:
I just found out today that my Hunter has diabetes. I am going to have a consultation with the vet next week to go over treatment. I am feeling overwhelmed with all of this and don't even know what kind of questions to ask him. I have been reading things on this site for a couple hours. It absolutely is terrifying me, can I do this?


Can you do this? Yes.

Are you terrified and feeling overwhelmed? Yes. And, yes. Hearing those words, Your cat has diabetes, is both terrifying and overwhelming. But, you know what, dear Hunter's parent (see how seamlessly your name would fit in here right now...), feline diabetes is immensely do-able. And, this is coming from someone who was a needle-phobic, emotional train wreck when I first heard those words about Giz shortly after her 14th Birthday. Yet, we danced for four more years. And, now, I dance with Nikki (the jury's still out on who rescued who here...), and, we will be dancing three years in two days...

I feel your love for Hunter. I bet he feels it, too!

Yes, you can do this. And, we can help you.

Welcome to the place you never wanted to be; but, will be blessed for having found.

Please keep us posted, okay?

Love and encouraging hugs for you both,
Deb and Nikki -- and, Giz, forever dancing in my heart...


PS: Maybe you could tell us Hunter's age, what he usually eats, and your general location (no specifics necessary). This glorious Board has caring people literally all over the planet. Maybe someone lives near you and could reassure you and teach you how to home test, when you're ready. I'm in Northern NJ if that helps...
 
Hi-

Everyone else covered the bases quite well, but I wanted to pop in and say "Welcome," too. We haven't been here very long ourselves...just over a month now, so the feelings of fear and being overwhelmed are still pretty fresh. But it really does get easier - and you really can do this! Ask lots of questions...the folks here are way beyond knowledgeable.

Keep us posted!

Amy
 
Thank you all. I am confused by the pen. Is insulin $175.00 for 5 dosages? I am feeding him food that is supposed to work from the vet. It is Science Diet. So wet is better? Again thank you all and I am searching away for info. And for the person that asked I am in Western Oregon.
 
It sounds like the $175 is for a package of five, three ml pens. That is a total of 1,500 units.. At two units twice per day that should be good for 375 days. However, a 3 ml pen may go bad before you use it all up and thus it will probably last less that a year.
 
Here is the info on the pens: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=151 Here is a coupon: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=36964

I really think that Science Diet is what gave my Oliver diabetes. He ate it for years; I fed him the lite in hopes he would lose weight. He just got heavier. Then I came here and found out it was 26% carbs. I started him on a diet of wet food in the 5-10% range. He lost weight, his coat improved and he eventually got off insulin. That doesn't happen for every cat, but all improve on a diet of dry food.
 
I forgot to answer on Hunter's age. He is 8.5 years old. I have read lots of bad things about science diet but that is what my vet said yesterday I need to use. So I went with it and bought some of the diabetic formula food. Are the cheap ones really ok? Is there a diabetic formula one for those too? And if not how do I know about the 5% carbs? Also I buy the insulin at a regular pharmacy? I do have a Costco membership I think I will do that if I can. I do need to spread it out a little since the initial cost of all this has already been very high for me. Again thank all of you wonderful people for helping me with this and for my hope for Hunter!!
 
You can take any food back and say Hunter won't eat it. The manufacturer will refund your money.

Here is the food chart: Janet and Binky’s chart You want a wet food your cat will eat that you can afford that is under 8-10% carbs. We feed Fancy Feast. Others feed Friskies. If you want a higher quality food, look at Merrick or Blue Buffalo or Wellness.

You can buy Lantus at any pharmacy because it is a human insulin. Costco does carry it.

Be sure you print off and study all the stickies on the Lantus support group: viewforum.php?f=9 They are full of information you will need.
 
helpforhunter said:
Thank you all. I am confused by the pen. Is insulin $175.00 for 5 dosages?

Not 5 dosages. 5 pens or cartridges. Each pen or cartridge will last you about a month. So the box of 5 is essentially at least a 5 month supply.

You don't need pen needles or an insulin pen. Some pharmacist will try to tell you them. You just stick the insulin syringe needle into the rubber stopper that is at the end of the pen or cartridge. See pictures below:

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helpforhunter said:
I am feeding him food that is supposed to work from the vet. It is Science Diet. So wet is better?


You don't need prescription food or any other "junk" the vet may try to sell you. Low carb canned food or raw food is best for diabetic cats. Fancy Feast, Friskies, Wellness, and Innova EVO are just some good brands you can feed. If you wish to feed raw, you can buy a grain-free commerical brand such as Nature's Variety, make your own raw using a recipie (Catinfo.org has a good one that many here use), or use a pre-mix with your own store bought raw meats.
 
Western Oregon

Hi Hunter's parent, and, of course, you too, sweet Hunter,

Here's a couple of links to Janet and Binky's famous food charts, which list carbs. And, there's a link at the top of this forum for more food links.

http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodNew.html
http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodOld.html

Basically, you're good to go with anything under 10% carbs. But, the most important thing is that Hunter eats it. You might want to introduce any new food s-l-o-w-l-y, particularly once he's on insulin. You don't want to upset his tummy. Just add a teaspoon or tablespoon of the new food to the old, and then another, and another with each feeding. Eventually, he'll be eating the new food. And, no, he doesn't need to eat prescription food. Well, unless he really likes it.

You can request a newbie kit here. It will have a meter starter kit. Not a lot of test strips, but it's a home testing start. Depending on the meter, you can probably find good deals on test strips at Costco. You can also check Hocks.com through the link here on The Board (FDMB gets a donation when you order from them), or check on ebay. Also check the Supply Closet forum here regularly. You might be able to pick up some supplies there. Sometimes, even insulin or syringes, too.

You can do this, Hunter's parent. There's nothing like dancing with a sugar cat! There's a bond you cannot even begin to imagine. Keep the faith.

Love and our encouraging hugs continue for you both,
Deb and Nikki -- and, Giz, forever dancing in my heart...
 
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