Nervous Nellie Newbie Shooting for the FIRST TIME Tomorrow

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Tonya and Tiki

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Ok, the general consensus is to shoot at either .5 or 1.0 tomorrow for the first time. I think I will go with the .5 as he only takes a couple of bites of food when I first feed him and then grazes on the rest throughout the day. I'd rather not go Hypo on my first day (I am stressed enough as it is)! The plan is to shoot him at 8a and 8p. Most days I wont be around to check BG numbers half way through the day but I generally go to bed at 2a so getting BG numbers at night should work out.

Any last minute advice on shooting...??? (I likely won't sleep at all tonight worrying about doing it all wrong!)

Many Thanks to ALL!!!
 
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And how much crap can I expect from my Vet for completely not doing what she told me to...???
 
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you'll do fine tomorrow...and may I say-
your vet should respect your decisions...
she works for you!

good luck tomorrow :-D

celi & binks
 
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you'll do just fine! it's actually really easy. and like anything else, the more you do it the better you get at it.

get the syringe filled & ready, set down the food and wait til his face is buried in the bowl, lift up a fold of skin and insert the needle straight in, kinda parallel to the body. your goal is to keep it between the folds of skin and shoot into fat. you don't want to hit muscle, but when you grab a handful that lifts the fat and skin away from the muscle. if you hit muscle he'll likely yelp.

if you do it wrong, no worries, you'll have another chance tomorrow night! and again the next morning! :lol: we've all messed up the shot here and there - whatever you do, just don't add insulin to the syringe and don't reshoot if you think you messed up. we even have a name for our screw-ups in the shots - a fur shot. we've all done it. just let it go.

and yes, people will no doubt be online to help reassure you. have you watched any videos on how to inject the cat?

did you also watch the video on the sticky "how to care for your lantus/levemir"?

you'll do great. we've all been there and now we're all cheering you on.
 
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and re your vet - a great answer is that "i was nervous about possible hypoglycemia, and so i decided to start low and do lots of hometesting. I will adjust upwards if his numbers don't respond. "

doesn't that makes you sound like a thoughtful, informed person!? what vet wouldn't LOVE that? :-D
 
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I did a test run last week at the vet's office with saline and totally did a fur shot (so you can see why I am nervous). I am also worried about air bubbles, using too much, not using enough, dropping the vial on the floor (could it BE anymore expensive????) hurting him, injecting ME and blah blah blah blah blah....

My vet showed me how to fill the syringe but she over filled it and then shot the excess back into the vial - all the stickies say NOT to do this. So now I am even worried about how to fill up the syringe!

I will likely breathe again by morning - but for now I'm biting my nails to the quick! LOL
 
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It will be fine - I too was absolutely terrified when I shot my first dose. . . . ;-)

Like Celi said - the vet works for you.

You ultimately are the one who makes the decisions.
BKs vet (#3) got used to me -she thought I was nuts but the numbers could not be denied!
Now she just shakes her head.. .
 
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Exactly!!! I just don't want to be one of "THOSE" pet owners. But I guess I already am. I am so ridiculously in love with my dog that if she blinks funny I think she's dying. I've brought her in for some things that seemed weird feeling like a complete hypochondriac and the vet actually praised me for catching things early. Which is exactly what she did when I brought in Tiki and caught his BG numbers when they were only in the 200's AND she actually said I could find out more information about FD online than she could ever tell me.

So I am probably worried for nothing...
 
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You'll do fine tomorrow. And if you're worried about what to tell your vet, don't tell her anything!
Stick with the info. in the "Stickies" and all will be OK.

Sending "stay-calm" thoughts,

Ella & Rusty
 
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All of it does get easier with time....it really does! We've ALL been in your shoes, on every level! As long as you're part of this group, you are never alone - ever!

One little tip for future reference...you can get Lantus in the Solostar pens as opposed to the vial. A couple good things here...up front, the pens are usually more expensive, but in the long run, they are much cheaper. And, they are plastic, so you don't have to worry as much about them breaking!

It sounds like your vet has told you a lot of what most of our vets told us. My vet said to roll the vial (big no-no), shoot excess back in (big no-no), we can shoot as closely as 8 hours apart if we wanted to (big no-no), the vial will last at least 6 months (I wish!!!), and we only needed to test once a week at most (Trixie wishes :lol: !!!). At first, I was nervous about "disobeying" the vet...until it really sunk in that Trixie was MY cat, and I was solely responsible for her safety and well-being.

With all that said, I do like my vet, but she is not living in my house day in and day out. By testing and communicating here, we have GREAT control over FD...much more so than if we solely relied on our vets.

Welcome to LantusLand! I honestly can't remember who to give credit to for this quote, but it is the best place you never wanted to be. Just keep asking questions...there is always someone here to help!

Amy
 
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kismetttt said:
So how long is the vial good for?

This is actually a tough question that seems to vary from cat to cat. Once you stick a needle in it, the clock starts ticking. Some people do only get 28 days out of a vial; others get several months...but probably not more than 3, maybe 4 tops. Personally, I'm grappling with this very issue with Trixie right now - trying to figure out if her wonky numbers are the result of her needing a higher dose, or fresh insulin. Mainly, the biggest clue is if you suddenly start seeing numbers that are "off", but you need a fair amount of data before you can determine that. Clear as mud, right??? Someone with more experience can probably answer this one better than I.

Since you're just starting out with a brand new vial, don't worry about that just yet. We'll get there soon enough!
 
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Nah, par for the course really - EVERYTHING about this whole thing is as clear as mud! LOL
 
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Everyone here will happily make it all genuinely clear for you. No worries, it WILL happen!!!
 
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there's so much to absorb about all of this feline diabetes stuff . . . i found that when the data applied to my cat then it clicked and i understood it.

for now, if you know how to draw up the insulin into the syringe (you did watch the video, right?) you will do fine. as you need more info it will make sense to you.

the other Lantus Land motto (thanks marj!) "it's a marathon, not a sprint."

for the first couple of months, i always wondered when i opened the door to the downstairs in the morning - would punkin be alive? now i don't even think about it. of course he'll be alive! why wouldn't he be? :-D we've been doing this since february - it's not too long before it sinks in and begins to feel routine.

post in the morning and there will be more people to give you a pep talk! we get it!
 
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Tonya,

It's intimidating at first, but as many people said, it gets easier. I'm doing a second round now with a new cat I adopted. Yes, both Barry and Paisley were adopted knowing they were diabetic. Given that I'm diabetic I couldn't see the reasoning behind euthanasia. The people here are great. They are generous with their support and experience. Even though I'd been through this with Barry (now OTJ) I've panicked several times and anticipate it'll happen again. The support has been great.

Regarding the vet... It reminds me of the saying "Do you want to talk to the man in charge or the woman who knows what's going on?" My first vet visit with Barry was horrible. He was a shelter cat who'd already been diagnosed at the shelter and put on Lantus. First, it wasn't the vet clinic I went to and I didn't know they even had a female vet. I had info from here and a good idea of what was needed (as opposed to the putting it in practice thing). Vet didn't like home testing. She increased his insulin from 2u to 3u, which I know now was really stupid). The vet tech was really nasty because I insisted on feeding Fancy Feast and not Purina DM. It was a horrible experience overall and we didn't go back for a while, which I'm not advocating. When I increased the Lantus according to the vet's directions, Barry blood sugar shot so high the glucometer couldn't read it (over 600). I immediately posted here and got help very quickly. I realized then that the vet really didn't know what she was doing. Given the vast number of things that can go wrong with a large variety of animals, it made sense. That's why we send people to specialists. I stuck close to what info I read here and listened to the people who are or have done this on a daily basis. When I do that, life is much easier.

Home testing. Barry taught me the importance of home testing. I had slacked off of testing and one night had a feeling I needed to test before his shot. He gave me a 16 & 18. I did a control solution test. Checked my BS. It really was that low. No symptoms of hypoglycemia. If I had given him his shot, I'm certain he would have died. When I took Paisley in for her first appointment the vet said he didn't think home testing was necessary. He can think all he wants. I KNOW it is important. Paisley has thrown me 30s. When I'm told that home testing isn't necessary I tell them about Barry and ask what would have happened if I had shot at that. What can they say?

Air bubbles, fur shot, poking self.... You're giving insulin under the skin not IV so you won't kill your cat with an air thrombosis. Besides, bubbles are very small. Fur shots, like ****, happen. After shots I run my hand over the shot area to check for moisture. It makes me feel better. Poking yourself, also like ****, happens on occasion. According to the pharmacist, getting insulin in muscle will hurt for a couple days. You're more likely to poke yourself testing, from my experience.

Best advice......READ, READ, READ.....BREATHE (repeat as needed).....Keep spreadsheet up to date.....Post condos so many eyes can keep track of progress and catch things you might miss or not have thought of....Ask ANY questions you have and remember it's ok to ask the same question more than once (or twice)....

Remember that this is about the health of your cat, not the health of the vet's ego. You can do this. It can be discouraging, frustrating, overwhelming and tiring. Don't let that stop you. Post your concerns. We're here because of our cats and we do understand. Maybe most of all, be gentle with yourself. That you didn't have your cat euthanized at diagnosis says loads about you. It puts you in the "very special person" category.

Welcome to Lantus Land!!!!! Enjoy the ride. :YMPEACE:

Barry Dx 6/2009. Lantus. OTJ 10/23/2009 otj_icon
Pailsy Dx 5/2011 Lantus. A work in progress. haha_smiley
 
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