need help how to add info to te spreadsheet

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Sue and Oliver set up a spreadsheet for me several weeks ago, and I was able to add to it at that time. I have been offline for awhile now, and now that i'm on again, I want to bring it up to date, but am either unable to, or unable to figure out how. I click on a box and it turns pale blue, I type, and nada. Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? tia
 
I am using the url, and it still seems to be view only. I think I am; it's bookmarked. I'll see if I can find your message and make sure it's the same.
 
All caught up! (and it looks even worse in a spreadsheet than it does written down :( )

Have an appt at the vet tomorrow afternoon to go over them and check my glucometer readings with his. BG was really high but reasonably stable, then I got new strips and they are really all over, I don't know what to trust.
 
Those are strange numbers. It looks like you checked twice and he was in the 70s midcycle yesterday, down over 400 points? That is a wild drop.

I wonder if he is getting too much insulin. Did you start at 3 units? I wonder if doing a restart at a lower dose would give you better numbers?

What kind of meter? I do think checking it out is wise. You can really do that yourself - test your own blood and see whether your number is in a normal range.
 
Yes, what type of meter, and does the meter need to be re-coded when you get a new box of strips?

And like Sue said, poke your finger and test yourself to see if the number looks logical.
 
Sue and Oliver (GA) said:
Those are strange numbers. It looks like you checked twice and he was in the 70s midcycle yesterday, down over 400 points? That is a wild drop.

very very strange. And he wasn't at all lethargic.

Sue and Oliver (GA) said:
I wonder if he is getting too much insulin. Did you start at 3 units? I wonder if doing a restart at a lower dose would give you better numbers?\

He was initially started at i unit on the Humalin, and gradually taken up to five or 6. I was out of town , he was at the vets when the PZI arrived, and he started him at 1 unit, then two, he was at 3 when I brought him home and started keeping track.

Sue and Oliver (GA) said:
What kind of meter? I do think checking it out is wise. You can really do that yourself - test your own blood and see whether your number is in a normal range.

It's an Arkay Glucocard01 that I ordered from the American Diabetes wholesale. just poked myself, and it read 78. that's normal range, yes?
 
Yes, that's perfectly normal for a human, so it looks like the meter is good to go.

The Arkay is the same as the Relion meter sold by Walmart. It's just marketed by wal-mart under the Relion name brand. Good to know because in an emergency, you can get strips at walmart if you run out and need them quick. It is the same strips used with the Relion Micro and the Relion Confirm, I believe.
 
Sorry, but I'm not up to date on your kitty's story.

Does he have anything else going on at the moment? Like dental issues, any infection, or anything besides plain old diabetes? (Just looking for something to help explain the odd numbers)...
 
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Yes, what type of meter, and does the meter need to be re-coded when you get a new box of strips?

I did read the instructions on coding (as soon as I saw the code was different from the first 100 strips) and the book says that the number that flashes on the meter must be the same as on the box (strips). they match. I also used the control solution, which it said to do with a new box, and i think the number I got with that was on the high end of the range given. But I am really confused by that~what is and what it does.
 
Carl & Bob said:
Sorry, but I'm not up to date on your kitty's story.

Does he have anything else going on at the moment? Like dental issues, any infection, or anything besides plain old diabetes? (Just looking for something to help explain the odd numbers)...

He has heart problems, and is on Enalapril for that. That happened about the same time as the diabetes was diagnosed.
 
Sue and Oliver (GA) said:
So the vet started him on one unit. How fast did he move to 2/3 units?
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about a week (I think) with the PZI. The 3 wasn't started till I brought him home and the Dr said to bump it up. . And it was longer when he was first diagnosed and started on humalin.


Diet-wise, following advice here, he's on totally wet diet, FF except as noted. I can't believe the amount of food we're going through! 'Cause of course my other kitty won't eat anything else, since Mr. C has 'the good' stuff.'
 
It is impossible to know, but generally we suggest holding the dose for 3 days and then increasing by .5. When you increase too fast and too much, it is possible that you went over a good dose. But it is a little scary to experiment with a lower dose.

You can find out fairly quickly by going down to one or two units and getting several cycles of numbers - especially the mid cycle numbers. If the numbers don't improve, you can start increasing but by a smaller amount than one unit. If you decide to try this, be sure to plan to test daily for ketones.

The other issue could be one of the high dose conditions.

It is unusual to see a kitty on 4-5 units and still be in the 400 - 500 range. I think something else is going on.
 
Yes, I should have mentioned when explaining that Arkray and Relion were the same meters that coding is automatic (I use a Relion Micro). So as long as the code on the plastic container and the meter match, all is good.
I never tried the control solution test so can't help with that. I used my blood to check the meter to see if it was okay, and it was.
 
As high as his numbers are, going back to lower doses is very scarey. I did find the Keytone sticks (took several pharmacies), but I haven't used them yet. I just went back and looked at the ss again. Vet had me go from 4 to 5 on 3/16, but then his mid-point dropped so low that was scarey and I backed him down a little. It had just seemed stable high at 4 and I thought it must be time to try 4.5 again, when all started going wonky.

Part of what makes me question the meter though is getting 100 point difference within 2-3 minutes. So also, go over my technique with the vet and see if I'm not getting clean readings. And maybe go back to the larger lancet. I have a harder time getting enough blood with the finer one. Don't know how that would affect the reading, but it definitely stresses Mr. Clooney when I have to poke several times to draw blood.
 
WoW~~that is amazing, Sue. And on such tiny amounts! Maybe I should print that as well, to take to show the Dr. and talk about.

Units/amounts ~~I know the PZI comes in 40 or 100 (and I haven't the foggiest what that is or how they compare) but Mr. C's is the 100.

Thank you both. I'll let vou know what comes of the vet visit tomorrow.
 
Units/amounts ~~I know the PZI comes in 40 or 100 (and I haven't the foggiest what that is or how they compare) but Mr. C's is the 100.

Are you using compouded "bovine" PZI? Rather than "Prozinc"?
And are the caps over the needle on your syringes orange, or red?
 
Are you using compouded "bovine" PZI? Rather than "Prozinc"?
And are the caps over the needle on your syringes orange, or red?[/quote]


Yes, compunded PZI from the pharmacy in Texas. The caps are orange.
 
OK, when I saw the U100, I knew it couldn't be "Prozinc" which only comes in U40 concentration. And the cap color is right too. U40's are red.

Just that I can't recall seeing anyone who had gotten "PZI" in U100 strength and wanted to be sure.
 
I keep thinking something has to be off. I would double check your technique with the vet and your readings. Too little blood can cause a bad reading but I would think you'd get an error message.

Also, info for the vet. Here is the info on high dose conditions:

http://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=375


The thing that puzzles me is the low readings you sometimes get. They could be causing a bounce back into the 400s, but the patterns is definitely not consistent. Here is some info on rebound (or bouncing as we sometimes call it)

http://petdiabetes.wikia.com/wiki/Rebound

Please let us know.
 
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