MULTIPLE ISSUES DIET Suggestions Needed

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Zack And Orange Julius

Zack And Orange Julius

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DIET SUGGESTIONS NEEDED FOR CATS WITH MULTIPLE ISSUES. Anyone have a cat with both diabetes as well as other issues, i.e. ORANGE JULIUS also has early kidney problems which discourage the high protein diet and ZACK has lymphoma in addition to diabetes (he's losing weight too).

I want to get real serious now after finding t his site, as vets have not been real helpful. I am starting up freestyle libre monitoring on both cats again today and am aware of the risks of fast glucose dose changes BUT I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE any DIET SUGGESTIONS. Been using Royal canin prescription diet diet mostly for OJ (kidney) and moderate high protein diets for Zack (lymphoma) -
dietary recommendations for feline lymohoma cancer patients are for foods with a high fat content and no more than 25% carbohydrates on a dry matter basis. These properties can be difficult to find in most adult cat foods, and there are no cancer-specific diets on the market. Kitten diets were recently recommended which i am about to try. Any thoughts? Greatly for any help. Mostly doing wet food . Please also suggest healthy TREATS to help get them off dry food
 
Hi and welcome to the forum.
I am sorry you are dealing with all these problems
With early kidney disease, there is absolutely no need to discourage a high protein diet. This is old thinking.
Nowadays it is recommended to give a cat with kidney disease a high protein diet unless they have very advanced kidney disease.
I would steer away from the Royal Canin prescription diet as it is high in carbs.
If you are giving insulin, you will need to be aware that when you swap to a lower carb diet, it will lower the BGs and you will need to monitor closely and adjust the insulin dose accordingly. We can help you with that. But you will need to set up a spreadsheet for us to help you. I would se t it up anyway for your own benefit.
Instructions within this link HERE
****make sure you have a hypo kit set up as well. Instructions in the link above.

As far as diet goes, have a look in the link below. It will detail number of carbs, fats and phosphorus……look for foods that are carbs10% or less for both cats if both diabetic, and phosphorus 250 to 200 mg/100kcals for your kitty with kidney problems.
FOOD CHART

For treats have a look at the freeze dried food available at Chewy and ZiwiPeak.
 
For kidney disease
Found this when I did a search in the search box
Posted by one of our members
For kitties with kidney disease and diabetes



. First number is carb percentage, second is mgs of phosphorus/100 cals, all less than 10% carb and less than 250 mg phos:

Weruva Truluxe Steak Frites can 6% 118
Weruva Cats in the Kitchen La Isla Bonita can 3% 166
Weruva Cats in the Kitchen Pates Meowiss Bueller pouch 7% 174
Weruva Truluxe Glam 'N Punk can 0.6% 180
Weruva Cats in the Kitchen Fowl Ball can 4% 180
Weruva Classic Pates Jeopurrdy Licious pouch 4% 187
Weruva Classic Pates Family Food pouch 0% 191
Weruva Cats in the Kitchen Pates Cattyshack pouch 9% 211
BFF PLAY Tuna & Salmon Shhh... pouch 3% 223
BFF PLAY Tuna & Turkey Totes! pouch 2% 226
BFF PLAY Tuna & Chicken Chill Out pouch 2% 226
Weruva Cats in the Kitchen Pates Cat to the Future pouch 8% 235
Weruva Cats in the Kitchen Pates The Breakfast Cat pouch 9.7% 235
Weruva Classic Pates Meal of Fortune pouch 8% 236
Weruva Cats in the Kitchen Lamburgini can 8% 236
Weruva Cats in the Kitchen Double Dip can 8% 248

You want carbs under 10% and phosphorus ideally low 200's or less.
 
Zack And Orange Julius said:
DIET SUGGESTIONS NEEDED FOR CATS WITH MULTIPLE ISSUES. Anyone have a cat with both diabetes as well as other issues, i.e. ORANGE JULIUS also has early kidney problems which discourage the high protein diet and ZACK has lymphoma in addition to diabetes (he's losing weight too).

I want to get real serious now after finding t his site, as vets have not been real helpful. I am starting up freestyle libre monitoring on both cats again today and am aware of the risks of fast glucose dose changes BUT I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE any DIET SUGGESTIONS. Been using Royal canin prescription diet diet mostly for OJ (kidney) and moderate high protein diets for Zack (lymphoma) -
dietary recommendations for feline lymohoma cancer patients are for foods with a high fat content and no more than 25% carbohydrates on a dry matter basis. These properties can be difficult to find in most adult cat foods, and there are no cancer-specific diets on the market. Kitten diets were recently recommended which i am about to try. Any thoughts? Greatly for any help. Mostly doing wet food . Please also suggest healthy TREATS to help get them off dry food
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Sending encouragement your way! This website is the BEST and my cat would probably not be around were it not for the folks here. Good luck to you Zack and OJ.
BTW Im in so california and i fostered a cat for a year named Orange Julius 5-6 years ago. That wouldnt happen to be the same cat? Take care!
 
Thank you very much. Royal canin told me no carbs but I believe you
and will look elsewhere. And will work on sprsadsheet to send you
Bron and Sheba (GA) said:
Hi and welcome to the forum.
I am sorry you are dealing with all these problems
With early kidney disease, there is absolutely no need to discourage a high protein diet. This is old thinking.
Nowadays it is recommended to give a cat with kidney disease a high protein diet unless they have very advanced kidney disease.
I would steer away from the Royal Canin prescription diet as it is high in carbs.
If you are giving insulin, you will need to be aware that when you swap to a lower carb diet, it will lower the BGs and you will need to monitor closely and adjust the insulin dose accordingly. We can help you with that. But you will need to set up a spreadsheet for us to help you. I would se t it up anyway for your own benefit.
Instructions within this link HERE
****make sure you have a hypo kit set up as well. Instructions in the link above.

As far as diet goes, have a look in the link below. It will detail number of carbs, fats and phosphorus……look for foods that are carbs10% or less for both cats if both diabetic, and phosphorus 250 to 200 mg/100kcals for your kitty with kidney problems.
FOOD CHART

For treats have a look at the freeze dried food available at Chewy and ZiwiPeak.
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Zack And Orange Julius said:
DIET SUGGESTIONS NEEDED FOR CATS WITH MULTIPLE ISSUES. Anyone have a cat with both diabetes as well as other issues, i.e. ORANGE JULIUS also has early kidney problems which discourage the high protein diet and ZACK has lymphoma in addition to diabetes (he's losing weight too).

I want to get real serious now after finding t his site, as vets have not been real helpful. I am starting up freestyle libre monitoring on both cats again today and am aware of the risks of fast glucose dose changes BUT I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE any DIET SUGGESTIONS. Been using Royal canin prescription diet diet mostly for OJ (kidney) and moderate high protein diets for Zack (lymphoma) -
dietary recommendations for feline lymohoma cancer patients are for foods with a high fat content and no more than 25% carbohydrates on a dry matter basis. These properties can be difficult to find in most adult cat foods, and there are no cancer-specific diets on the market. Kitten diets were recently recommended which i am about to try. Any thoughts? Greatly for any help. Mostly doing wet food . Please also suggest healthy TREATS to help get them off dry food
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Zack And Orange Julius said:
DIET SUGGESTIONS NEEDED FOR CATS WITH MULTIPLE ISSUES. Anyone have a cat with both diabetes as well as other issues, i.e. ORANGE JULIUS also has early kidney problems which discourage the high protein diet and ZACK has lymphoma in addition to diabetes (he's losing weight too).

I want to get real serious now after finding t his site, as vets have not been real helpful. I am starting up freestyle libre monitoring on both cats again today and am aware of the risks of fast glucose dose changes BUT I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE any DIET SUGGESTIONS. Been using Royal canin prescription diet diet mostly for OJ (kidney) and moderate high protein diets for Zack (lymphoma) -
dietary recommendations for feline lymohoma cancer patients are for foods with a high fat content and no more than 25% carbohydrates on a dry matter basis. These properties can be difficult to find in most adult cat foods, and there are no cancer-specific diets on the market. Kitten diets were recently recommended which i am about to try. Any thoughts? Greatly for any help. Mostly doing wet food . Please also suggest healthy TREATS to help get them off dry food
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Lando demando said:
Sending encouragement your way! This website is the BEST and my cat would probably not be around were it not for the folks here. Good luck to you Zack and OJ.
BTW Im in so california and i fostered a cat for a year named Orange Julius 5-6 years ago. That wouldnt happen to be the same cat? Take care!
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Lando demando said:
Sending encouragement your way! This website is the BEST and my cat would probably not be around were it not for the folks here. Good luck to you Zack and OJ.
BTW Im in so california and i fostered a cat for a year named Orange Julius 5-6 years ago. That wouldnt happen to be the same cat? Take care!
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Thanks
 
My Neko had diabetes (from a secondary condition caused acromegaly), kidney disease, heart disease and small cell lymphoma. I mostly fed her raw food make with a premix called EZComplete, made by FoodFurLife. For kidneys you want high quality protein, not necessarily high protein or low protein. You can also lightly cook the meat if you don't want to feed raw. Depending on if he's getting chemo, and thus imunocompromised, some don't want to feed raw.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
My Neko had diabetes (from a secondary condition caused acromegaly), kidney disease, heart disease and small cell lymphoma. I mostly fed her raw food make with a premix called EZComplete, made by FoodFurLife. For kidneys you want high quality protein, not necessarily high protein or low protein. You can also lightly cook the meat if you don't want to feed raw. Depending on if he's getting chemo, and thus imunocompromised, some don't want to feed raw.
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Thanks so much. Can you give high protein with kidney diseaae? That is helpful. Sorry for your physicalbloss of Neko but still with you everydat
 
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