Lantus used 2 months so far

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We switched 60 days ago and still seem quite inconsistent and uncontrolled with this 14 year old (she was on Novolin previously). I believe the kidney/bladder combo infection has contributed to the wide range of BG results but who knows. After all, she is a cat :-).

I'm curious as to what folks are now seeing for Lantus shelf life when it is properly refrigerated and handled. Since we hit the 60 day mark, I'm watching to see if there are dramatic changes in her results but honestly she has been all over the board from day 1.

Thanks for any real life stories (I've read the general use of Lantus posts and guidelines on this site).

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Good morning!! Are you new to us? I'm sorry but I haven't seen if you've posted before. It's hard for us to say much without seeing a spreadsheet. Have you created one and just haven't linked it? Also don't know if anyone has suggested you read all the Stickys. There's alot of info about Lantus in the stickys as well as the protocol, etc.

Are you using the solostar pens or a vial? The vial has a longer longevity than the pens. The pens have a reported shelf life of 28 days from the manufacturer. Many of us switch pens about that time just so we don't get wonky numbers. Some use them longer but I don't know if anyone has used them 60 days.

We'd love to have a little more info so we can help.
 
Welcome KitCat - people here will be glad to help you with the dosing of your kitter with the additional info that Marjorie and Ann mentioned. As far as just answer your question on the shelf life on the lantus, this is from the sticky at the top of the Lantus forum on care of Lantus and Levemir insulins:

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOUR INSULIN IS NO LONGER GOOD?

When you lose regulation for no reason.
If you see any hint of "floaties"/"tiny particles"... discard the insulin.
If insulin is cloudy or discolored, or if rubber stopper is cracked... replace insulin immediately.
The manufacturer of Lantus recommends discarding the insulin after 28 days of use (in-use, unrefrigerated, for humans).
However, many Lantus users have been able to use a vial/cartridge/pen for as long as six months.
The manufacturer of Levemir recommends discarding the insulin after 42 days of use (in-use, unrefrigerated, for humans).
Many Levemir users have been able to use a vial/pen for four to six months... some to the last drop.
Think Tank Discussion: How Long Does Lantus/Levemir Last Once Opened?

Opened Lantus and Levemir vials, cartridges, and pens can last longer than many FDMB members seem to think. Some caregivers of diabetic cats have used Lantus/Levemir down to the last drop. Lantus users from the German Katzen Forum have reported using opened Lantus for up to six months and Levemir up to four months if kept refrigerated and handled properly. Lantus is NOT as fragile as we once thought.

From two of the leading researchers in the field of lantus use with feline diabetics, Jacquie S. Rand BVS, DVS and Rhett D.Marshall BVS (University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia):

"Glargine should be refrigerated because it has a shelf life of 4 weeks once opened and kept at room temperature. We have found that opened vials kept refrigerated can be used for more than 6 months. If using an insulin pen, the manufacturer recommends that once a vial of insulin is used, the pen be kept at room temperature because temperature changes associated with refrigeration alter the volume administered by the pen."
http://www.uq.edu.au/ccah/index.html?page=43599&pid=0

We use U100 syringes to draw Lantus from cartridges and pens. We do NOT use needle tips which can be attached to the pens to administer insulin. Therefore, refrigeration will not alter the volume administered by the pen apparatus. Refrigeration combined with the use of syringes to draw insulin (versus using the needle tip made for the pen) from the opened pen has been found to extend it's life well beyond the 28 days suggested by the manufacturer.

Unopened Lantus is good until the expiration date stamped on the box if refrigerated and handled properly.
Last edited by Jill & Alex on Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:28 am, edited 6 times in total.
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Jill & Alex
 
Actually, the longevity of Lantus does not matter whether you are using a vial or the Solostar pens. The manufacturer indicates that once a container of Lantus is opened, it will last 28 days. Some of us routinely swap out our old Lantus for new after approx. 28 days. There are others who are able to use their Lantus to the last drop.

If you are not seeing the expected response to Lantus and if you are following dosing guidelines, basing your dose on the nadir and not the pre-shot tests, you're holding doses based on the information in the Tight Regulation sticky, etc., I'd suggest starting new Lantus and see if that helps.
 
the comment re: vial or pens is not surprising - seems there are lots of variables, including the infection she has had. We'll keep monitoring and see how it goes. Here's a great example of what I'm talking about on variables: windstorm makes the windows shake; kitty is freaked and won't eat normal amounts for 2-3 days (obviously impacts BG results, too, considering food and dosage implications). Here's another: kitty has impending hairball; I brush her but in the spring this long hair beauty keeps us busy; her appetite always changes a day or two before the hairball; again, implications.

Thanks to each who took time to comment and weigh in....
 
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