Just diagnosed, Imo

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ReireiChan

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Hi everyone
My 7-year old cat, Imo, was just diagnosed on Monday. He's pretty overweight, and has always had some random and mild health issues because he was the runt of the litter (heart murmur, etc.). When I noticed that he was drinking LOTS more water and, therefore, urinating much more, I had a sinking suspicion that it would be diabetes, and we got word from the vet on Monday that such is the case. His glucose was 473, but I'm hoping that since he's shown no other signs of being sick at all, no long-term damage was done before I caught it.
This morning, I gave him his first insulin shot, Lantus (1 unit). It went easier than I thought, he's such a good boy!! I'll be taking a closer look at the Lantus board once I've gotten my glucometer and home testing supplies.
We've also just started his Purina DM diet.
Like most people, the costs are making me nervous, particularly the food and the Lantus. After reading some of the other posts, and looking at the cat food tables, I'm going to think about switching to those low-carb Friskies pate (which you can do auto-ship on Amazon for really inexpensive). However, I don't know if I should wait until I've got my home-testing supplies since I guess switching food can affect the insulin?? We've got our blood curve test next Wednesday and I'm still debating if I should just do this myself, or let the Vet do it the first time. As for the Lantus, I'm going to keep an eye out for if anyone mentions a place to get it inexpensively. When I first bought it, I thought, "yikes! My pharmacy's charging a ton for this", but after looking at sites like Walgreen's, I'm not sure if they're charging more than anyone else would. For now, at 1 unit, 2x per day, it's manageable. If he ends up at 3 units a shot, though, that's going to be really difficult.
I have a question about feeding if you have 2 cats, one non-diabetic. My concern is the cost of the canned food. Up til now, they were both on Blue Buffalo dry food. Luckily, they're both not picky at all, and have always considered canned food a treat. So switching will be no problem. But, to use the Vet's food for both kitties would cost me about 4x as much as I was paying for food. If I try to give just Imo the Vet's food, then the other cat will pretty much just push "little" Imo out of the way and steal it (Angus is the alpha). I've thought about feeding them in separate rooms, switching to the Friskies, etc. Does anyone else have a similar situation with two or more cats, and what did you find worked best to make sure that your diabetic kitty was ONLY eating his food but that you were keeping costs manageable? I really don't mind feeding both cats canned, I'm sure Angus would benefit too, it's just that 4x the cost seems pretty steep.
Have you also found that, emotionally, this gets a bit easier? I was afraid that the emotional stress would be really building up over time, but now I'm wondering if knowing that I'm making him feel better each day will actually help the stress? Within the last 10 months, my husband started his first year of residency, we moved to a new state where we are still working on making friends, and I had my first child, so the timing, financially and emotionally, has been really challenging.
I also just wanted to say Thank You. I was really stressed and emotionally burned after finding out, and after spending some time reading the other posts, and the website in general, you guys are such a supportive community that it really made me feel better. You have great feedback, and more than anything, being able to talk about this with other people who are in the same situation is a real relief. My husband is not a pet person. I know that he's really trying to be supportive because he knows how much the cats mean to me, and that I've always considered them family. But I can tell that as much as he's trying to understand, he still feels like why are planning on spending this time, and money and energy on "just a cat". You all have helped me feel much more hopeful and that this is something that I can handle.
 
Welcome! Will it help to know that we were all stressed - terrified - overwhelmed - when we first came here? The good news is that this is a home managed disease and once you get the basics down, you are really in control of keeping Imo safe and happy.

Lots of people feed Fancy Feast and Friskies. They are particularly the most economical for multiple cats or slim budgets. Anything under around 8% carbs is fine: Janet and Binky’s chart Purina DM is okay for carbs, but expensive and liver based, which most cats tire of quickly.

Did you ask for a newbie kit from us? If so, it should arrive soon. If not, here is the info: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=19541

There is a coupon for Lantus in the supply closet. I don't know whether it will help: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=36964

If you go over to the Lantus forum, be sure to read the stickies at the top. They are full of great info. And check out the spreadsheets of current users. (Pick a thread and look at the bottom of the post for "Rusty's SS" for example. If you click on it, you will be able to see what their current doses are. Very few people give more than 1 or 2 units; most are giving doses under 1 unit.)
 
Hi there,
My cat is diet controlled, but I do know that you will definately need to hometest if you are switching to low carb foods AND giving insulin. The food DOES change the situation. You could very easily have a hypo situation, and that is dangerous.
Once you get the testing supplies, you can do your own curve. I believe the info on how to do it is in the health links. You don't need to have the vet do it. You will save a lot of $.
And you don't need to spend a ton of money on the vet's perscribed food. Check out Janet & Binky's chart - but don't switch until you home test - please?
I'm sure others will be along to help you better...
Welcome!
 
Hi guys ..

I know this is overwhelming .. it was for all of us .. you seem to have a pretty good handle on it .. when our cat mocha was first diagnosed I spent days on the floor literally apologizing to mocha for doing this to her .. Now she is a very happy, healthy kitty who could care less that she has diabetes.

It WILL get easier, trust me ... We have a civvie (a non diabetic) cat that only eats dry food. Mocha is on wet cat food (wal mart brand special kitty, 4 5.5oz cans for 1.34 @ 3% carbs) When we feed the cats, they each have their own bowl, twix with hers and mocha with hers. They each eat what they have in front of them and generally don't bother with the others cats bowls. I do however (or my DH) stands guard to make sure they don't get into each others foods.

I'm not sure what prescription your vet wrote out for you for lantus, but if he wrote out a 'script for the vial, that is going to cost you a lot more then the 5 pack of solostar pens would. With the pens, you get 5 3ML pens. Each pen roughly lasts mocha 28 days, and yes, she even got up to 3.75u. (her highest dose) But every cat is different, and some people use their pens for months without any number spikes.

I know you are going to get a lot of helpful information here on this board and a lot of care for your kitty ..
 
Thank you all so much! I am going to try feeding them different food and just keeping an eye on them. I did watch last time I fed them, and they seemed to be pretty much ignoring each other's food bowls. So that will be a big help. I will also ask the Vet if she can do the pens instead of the vial next time. She's been so great, so I doubt she will have any problem doing that. They definitely look like a better deal, so I'm already feeling better about the cost. I'm reading up on other people's questions/comments about home testing to try and help prepare for when our kit comes. Thank you again!
 
Hi Reireichan!
I'm super new too and so far we haven't started insulin but changed from dry Solid Gold food to only canned, grain-free low carb high protein wellness, evo or blue seal foods last Thursday. His blood glucose was 366 when tested at the vet last week and when I tested him at home last night b4 bed it was 77 ! I was shocked. This a.m. before he ate I tested him again and it was 158, then this afternoon before his meal it was 69. I'm still absorbing alot but it seems like some cats can do really well from just the diet change. I hope you find this true, but either way we are soo lucky for this board! :)
 
Hi there,

Actually I have 11 cats of which only one is a diabetic. Everyone here eats exactly what my diabetic eats. I just feed everyone Friskies Pate flavors. I can't begin to tell you what a difference it has made in my non-diabetics as well as my diabetic. First of all my diabetic will have been in remission 6 months this May 1st. My other cats have gotten slick, silky soft coats now. I have a couple that had food allergies and those cleared up almost over-night with the switch to canned. Unless there is a real reason to keep one cat on the dry food, I would just switch them both. Easier on you, and really isn't that much more a month for us to feed all canned food, as opposed to feeding some canned and a high quality dry. And all my cats are in better physical shape with the canned diet.

Mel, Max & The Fur Gang
 
Hi and Welcome!

Like Mel, I have lots of cats (10 to be exact). I have 7 diabetics (six on insulin); the seventh is in remission.
I feed everyone canned. I use a combination of Friskies, Fancy Feast, Wellness, Merrick (only Cowboy Cookout) and Evo.

If money get tight, then everyone gets Friskies. While I can, I like to add the Wellness, Merrick, or Evo to the Friskies or Fancy Feast to add a little quality meat to their diet.

Other than the occasional bite or dental issue, my guys are all healthy and have shiny coats. Weights for most of them are stable since they were switched to low carb wet food.

So, I agree, switch them both to wet. Be careful to home test Imo as you make the shift to wet food. The food change may drop the blood sugar and it may upset the tummy. Might consider a gradual shift over a couple of weeks.

Good luck with Imo,

Claudia
 
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