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Hi Everyone,

I am so grateful to have found this site. I am lost and trying to get my 9 year old cat regulated...have been since October. Last year, I found out that my love bug, Noagi (pronounced No ghee) has diabetes and I have been trying to get him regulated...with no luck. I have a lot of reading to do here but wanted to find out if anyone has had issues with their diabetic cat urinating in corners of rooms? Carpeted rooms.....in 9 years, my cat never urinated in corners and now he is.... he does,...he doesn't.... any assistance is appreciated. ... I am wondering if it is due to the neuropathy he has developed? I think he has a hard time squatting in his cat box.... any thoughts?
thanks
- joni
 
Yes, it could be hard for him to get into the box. Some people cut down one side to help. He might have an urinary tract infection - they see it hurts when they use the litter box and so they stop using it.

If you would like help getting him regulated, we have a very successful protocol of wet low carb food and home testing. We'd love to help you help Noagi.
 
Thank you! If Noagi is using the litter box for doing his "other business" it seems odd that he would urinate elsewhere...he has had a urinary track infection before...I think I'm better get him on some antibiotics....
I would love some advice as to how I might get him off of dry food as he will barely eat wet food....any advice for that?
Thank so again.
 
joni said:
Thank you! If Noagi is using the litter box for doing his "other business" it seems odd that he would urinate elsewhere...he has had a urinary track infection before...I think I'm better get him on some antibiotics....
I would love some advice as to how I might get him off of dry food as he will barely eat wet food....any advice for that?
Thank so again.
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Some cats use 1 litterbox to defecate and another one to urinate.
Some prefer different substrates - usually, unscented, sand-like litter works well, clumping or not. Clumping makes it easier to remove waste if it is kept at a depth of 2 - 3 inches.

For food, you might transition first to the lower carb dry foods such as Wellness Core, Innova Cat and Kitten, or Young Again 0 Carb. That, at least, gets the protein/fat/carb balance closer to what nature intended.
While doing that, follow some of the tips at Cat Info on transitioning dry food addicts to canned food. And sometimes, offering raw food is the trick (be sure to use a balanced formula for cats, not just plain meat!)
 
My cat was diagnosed with diabetes 3-14-13. He had urinated on the floor a few times before that. I think it might be because he was drinking so much water and didnt want to walk to the litter box. And another thing - After he went pee multiple times in a day (he was urinating soooo much) his litter box would start to get nasty and he wouldnt want to pee in it. (We scoop it out everyday - but it was getting bad fast because he was peeing so much and large quantities of urine) Cats dont like when the litter is so moist because it will get stuck on their paws. He hasnt peed on the floor at all since he started on the insulin and he hasnt been drinking as much either.

Just as a suggestion - you may want to consider getting a second litter box - that way he has 2 to choose from if one already has lots of puddles of urine in it.

Some cats - if there is urine on the floor and its been cleaned but still smells like urine - they will keep peeing on that area - if you think this may be the case - let me know and I know some great ways to get the smell and stain out of carpet

I assume your cat is drinking alot (and peeing alot) if the diabetes isnt regulated yet - which their are a lot of people on this board that can help you with.

Jamie
 
Thank you all for your thoughts, suggestions and ideas. Here is the scenario with Noagi.

I use Dr. Elsey's Senior Cat Litter as it is very light and it absorbs the urine and dehydrates the feces. I stopped using the Dr. Elsey's clumping clay litter when I realized he had diabetes because his feet were getting plastered with litter (my poor little man.... :sad: ) As far as cleaning, I do keep the box clean and scoop it out twice a day AM/PM. A few days ago, I realized he was urinating in one corner of a room, so I cut that piece of carpet out, and replaced it, AFTER I sprayed a bleach cleaner on the concrete slab, dried and rinsed, then followed with baking soda over night. Then placed a new piece of matching carpet into the corner..... This morning, it was wet all over again. I know it was him because my partner heard him scratching the carpet in the middle of the night. I think a second cat litter box is a great idea, at least for now, and I will move in that direction to see if it helps.

One general question I have that I think is important is this: If I am asked to give my (18 lb.) cat 3 units twice a day instead of 2 units twice a day (Lantus Pen) is it normal that he acts really tired afterwards? Is this supposed to happen? I am paranoid I am going to give him too much and I am scared to put him into a low sugar state as I know that is worse than it being high...... I don't seem to get a straight answer when I ask my vet.

Does anyone know of a GOOD vet who is in the Phoenix Metropolitan area (perferably in Central/Downtown Phoenix) and is versed in treating Diabetes?

Thanks!
 
The best way to find out how the insulin is working is to hometest your kitty. We use human meters and test their ears so we know the dose we are planning to give is safe and how low the insulin is taking him. Then you don't have to worry and guess how they are doing. We have taught hundreds of people how to test; we would love to help you learn.

Here is a great thread full of testing tips, advice and videos.


http://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=287

In general, we increase by smaller than one unit. Sometimes a large increase goes over an ideal dose.
 
Are you giving him anything for his neuropathy? There is a vitamin supplement, methylcobalamin - a form of B12, that many have had success with in reversing the neuropathy in a rather short time. There are several sources for it, here is one that is formulated especially for cats, but it is available many sources in icluding Amazon, iHerb, etc. Others here can probably point to some other brands that work well/less expensive/suitable dosage/easy to get into the cat :

http://www.ilifelink.com/zobaline-for_d ... tml?af=DCC

Have to second the suggestion to home test him especially before you make any changes to his diet or insulin dosage. Getting him on lower carbs, even lower carb dry, will almost always decrease his ideal insulin dose and you don't want to accidentally put him in a hypoglycemic state.
 
Hello and welcome to the board,

When my cats were unregulated they were drinking so much water to try and flush the sugar out their systems. So they were peeling a lot. Bailey was peeing all over the house I think because his bladder was full and he couldn't make it to the litter tray, and maybe a urinary tract infection. Also I suspect the high blood glucose made him a little wacky.

I would try transitioning to a low carb wet food.. Many of us use fancy feast classic pâtés, friskies pâtés or wellness grain free to try and regulate him better. But I also strongly advise home testing.. It's important since a change in food can drop blood sugar, plus it will give you better idea of how the insulin is working, and why he gets tired after his shot.

Let me know if you want more info on home testing

Wendy
 
Same with my Honey - one of the reasons I took her to the vet was that she was peeing upstairs in my bedroom (where she sleeps).
I then realised that her coat was wet a few times and then I found her lying in a pool of pee on the balcony - so sad!

Once she got regulated (and then in remission) this behaviour stopped.
I did put a litter tray in my bathroom for her - just in case the stairs were giving her problems getting down to the main lb.
I took that away after a while.
 
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