Years ago with Nigel we were directed to Binky's Page and the only info was for Fancy Feast. I called it Pig Slop out of arrogance. Our cupboards were full of high-end $4 cans that they wouldn't touch. Noah and Nigel were getting scrawny, then they ate at McDonalds and got 90% of their body weight back. Lewis just inhales food and is rude, then pushes Noah off his dish. Worst ever was Simon who escaped for 4 days and when he got back here he slowly went to morbidly obese, maybe thought every meal may be his last. One day he got jammed between the stair railings, funny for 1 second. I'm sure it was 90% the cause of his death. Thankfully Noah will eat if you put food in front of him and because of his dental issues won't graze on the kibble. We have altered their metabolisms by bringing them inside. Pet food stores are the biggest fibbers. Weight loss food means they eat more, poop out more. There is no answer. Janet, what mother doesn't worry about their kids? Except my sister who goes to McDonalds when we order Thai because the smartest kid on the block just pouts. He's a teenager now. We were the family that ate together, roast beef and veggies. Then came the microwave. Was Phoebes over weight at 21? 13 is only 62% of 21 but in ALL her pictures she looks good. No dehydration, lethargy, etc. Maybe that's close to her ideal weight. I know you're not in denial so if her numbers are okay then do what you do. I know this sounds sexist but you're a smart girl (girl?). That was my little cheer-leading thing of the day, too old for pyramids and back flips. 500 words again for a simple question, that's me!