? Here we go again +2 is 122 down from 449

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Misterbeesmom

Misterbeesmom

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second time this has happened
Scared
Should i give carbs now?
Concerned will go hypo at nadir which is 4 hours from now typically on this insulin
 
Carbs have to be given in small amounts so he doesn't fill up. You might be steering with food for a while. Save the karo/honey for later if it seems that he's still dropping too fast.
 
Misterbeesmom said:
He JUST had eaten his dinner, but he's always been a good eater and this high carb stuff is like a treat so i think he'll keep eating...
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Misterbeesmom said:
He JUST had eaten his dinner, but he's always been a good eater and this high carb stuff is like a treat so i think he'll keep eating...
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The 122 was at +2. Having a dip like this after eating is said by some on here to be a sign that the pancreas might have joined the fray after the meal. Who knows ...
 
Kris & Teasel said:
So now you should probably test hourly to +6 if you can manage it. It would be nice to know how this plays out. If he doesn't dip into greens tonight on that 4.2 u dose it's probably a good dose to try for a bit. Can you monitor tomorrow?
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I'll try to keep checking until midnight. was up nearly all night last night because he was so restless. The lack of sleep has become a serious problem. I cant keep this up.

I dont understand why 4.2 might be a good dose, after this happened. I'm really confused!

I'm taking tomorrow off so i can monitor him.
 
Much better! I'd definitely get another test in a bit...and keep an eye on things through the normal nadir time.

I believe what Kris is saying is that he didn't necessarily drop too low. 4 this morning didn't do much...but 4.2 dropped him. And it's possible that he wouldn't have actually dropped too low. It's hard, Jen, I know because it's so nerve wracking. Would you be able to monitor tomorrow and steer with food if needed?

I'm at work tomorrow and things are nuts but I'll try to check in on you when I can throughout the day.
 
Rachel said:
Much better! I'd definitely get another test in a bit...and keep an eye on things through the normal nadir time.

I believe what Kris is saying is that he didn't necessarily drop too low. 4 this morning didn't do much...but 4.2 dropped him. And it's possible that he wouldn't have actually dropped too low. It's hard, Jen, I know because it's so nerve wracking. Would you be able to monitor tomorrow and steer with food if needed?

I'm at work tomorrow and things are nuts but I'll try to check in on you when I can throughout the day.
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Thanks
Ok i guess what i get stuck on is the chance that with such a big drop early in the cycle, if i werent home he might have just kept dropping for another few hours when the nadir usually hits. Seeing him in blues and greens is wonderful, though he isnt acting like a happy cat probably because its so brief. So if i do 4.2 again, and he drops like that again, and i dont catch it, and he keeps dropping, well we know where that leads. Thats why i'm confused.
 
Misterbeesmom said:
I'll try to check him at midnight. I was up nearly all night last night because he was so restless.

I dont understand why 4.2 might be a good dose, after this happened. I'm really confused!

I'm taking tomorrow off so i can monitor him.
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You have two approaches when you get to the edge of the dosing cliff:

1. Keep the dose that got you some action but monitor carefully and be prepared to steer with food. A full curve would give you valuable info for the dose - how low it takes him, how high/low is the next PS. You need data.
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2. retreat to a safer dose that might pull you away from cliff's edge but keep BGs higher than you want and cause you to increase eventually.

You're looking for where the boundary is, Jen. It's stressful and there's a bit of back and forth until you can pin the good dose (range) down more closely. Mr. B. is more insulin sensitive right now and the lower numbers this evening will add to that. A good dose that gets him into better BGs and keeps him there longer during the cycle will get his system more accustomed to lower BGs. It might help alleviate some bouncing. It's a process, not a single step that gets you where you want to go.
 
Misterbeesmom said:
Thanks
Ok i guess what i get stuck on is the chance that with such a big drop early in the cycle, if i werent home he might have just kept dropping for another few hours when the nadir usually hits. Seeing him in blues and greens is wonderful, though he isnt acting like a happy cat probably because its so brief. So if i do 4.2 again, and he drops like that again, and i dont catch it, and he keeps dropping, well we know where that leads. Thats why i'm confused.
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Completely understandable. That's why you have to factor in what you can handle yourself. It's hard when you're at work so that means you have to be more conservative then. Maybe you push the envelope a bit on a weekend. I wouldn't want to be too close the that cliff edge if I wasn't there to monitor closely.
 
Hi Jen,

Only just saw the tag. (Sorry! :( )

Rachel said:
4 this morning didn't do much...but 4.2 dropped him.
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Looking at MisterBee's data for yesterday he might be clearing a bounce.

Jen, if you can test at +1.5 in a cycle to see where it might be heading you might catch steep drops in the making and perhaps try steering a little with food to slow the drop (and maybe have less of a bounce after?).

Your boy is certainly keeping you on your toes, Jen. Have some nerve-calming :bighug::bighug: :bighug:.


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Misterbeesmom said:
though he isnt acting like a happy cat probably because its so brief.
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Jen, that is not unusual. My little one would be rip roaring around the house when her numbers were crappy and quiet as a church mouse when she went lower than her usual for the longest time. Only now am I starting to see what I expected to see immediately. The lower numbers are foreign to them and they are adjusting little by little, some faster than others, but it will happen.
 
I think what's happening is that he bounced after the green on 12/20 and it persisted until this evening when the bounce "broke". That means he used up his bounce fuel so you're getting to see the true impact of the 4.2 u dose. That dose plunked him down into blue at +2 so it'll be interesting to see where he is at +6 with no food intervention.
 
+4 is 321 up we go like a rocket
If this goes like the other day its not going to be pretty.
I cant keep this up, and i cant be here every day to catch an early drop. This bouncing is for the birds.
 
Wow! He really knows how to be a drama king! I think this is indicative of the need to back off on the dose. He definitely needs to be taken down to lower numbers very slowly. I'd be inclined to back him up to 4u again and hold it for a few days to make sure any bouncing from today is past unless of course he does another serious drop on 4u. Then if need be take him back up very slowly and hold again. I'm sure you don't need any extra drama over the holidays, so my advice would be to retreat as Kris suggested.
 
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