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dragonkitty03

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OMG I went to check on Belle and there was vomit everywhere and she used the cat box and is very lose poop! what do I do??? I have no money to take her to the vet!!!! Should i tell him when he calls me tomorrow??? I'm so scared now!!! she gets her shot at 9pm after she has her 845 snack Now I'm freaking out!!!! AHHHHH what do I do!!! I have no money for this :cry: could be nothing?? she seems fine i think... I'm so upset now!!!!
 
Did she eat anything different, have you changed her diet?

Our cats throw up, and 15 minutes later are ready to eat again and hold it down that time (poop is fine though). Go figure.
A sure way to get them sick is to feed them too much when they are very hungry, they gulp it down too fast and it comes back up.
 
I'm feeding her wet food and that was 530 and she just got sick like ten minutes ago.. nothing different.. I called the on call vet... not sure if that was a good idea or not.. =(...
 
yeah her poop is lose so I dont know it 1 unit twice a day is too much for her or what... I'm freaking out!! I want to cry!!!! this is the second time that she threw up!!! should i worry???
 
It sounds as if she has definitely eaten something that's upset her - is she acting normal otherwise?

Try giving her 1/4 Pepcid A/C - be sure it's A/C - and see if that settles her tummy a bit if she's acting normal otherwise.

Emmy & Dude (& Mittsi too)
 
I would wait and see what the morning brings before going to the vet. I typically give my kitties 24 hours for vomiting and other minor issues. If she vomited all or most of her food I would not give a full dose of insulin.
 
No, please try not to worry. I know that is easier said than done, but you have to mama-up and be calm and in control for your sweet kitty.
Here is what you need to do. Whether or not you go to the vet, vomiting and diarhea cause dehydration. They also mess with the bg numbers and as far as I know you do not test yet right?
I would suggest the vomiting has nothing to do with her diabetes and that you should reduce dose down to a micro dose...and see if you can get some watery food into her. Take her canned food and gravy it up with water all mashed in. It may help her nausea if you have Pepcid AC, 1/4 of a pill.

If you have changed her diet since you saw the vet than it is likely her numbers are lower. I'm going to reread your earlier posts ok.

Lori
 
Did you get a glucometer yet or are you ordering one from Lori? Did you want me to come by this weekend and teach you to hometest? If you have not ordered a kit from Lori, I can bring a DCIN kit with me.
 
Lug,
Yes I have.. Use has been on a different wet for a few days….

Emmy

Yeah I’m going to try to give her some fancy fest in a little bit… I tried to give her some dry that she likes and she wouldn’t even touch it…

I don’t have Pepcid A/C at all in the house, thanks though I will keep that in mind of the next time… before her shot I will give her some Fancy fest and see how she does with that..

Larry,
I called the on call vet and he told me to call in the AM to tell them how she is doing so I will do that and I will see if she eats anything tonight before I give her a second dose… this sucks big time!!!! I even tried to have her come to me with some treats, and she wouldn’t move..

Lori,
Thanks.. Yeah I changed her diet since I saw the vet so I will give her something that she likes.. Like Fancy fest that I know she loves…. I have dry out for her and water and nothing… she wont eat it… I may get a bottle of water and see if she drinks from that like I know she loves to do…. I wish I had something like that in the house but I don’t…..

I will try not to worry but this is SO hard, I don’t home test yet…. Maybe it’s the new food that she isn’t use to… That’s why she vomit and has diarrhea… I will see how she does tonight and tomorrow morning and call the vet to let him know like he asked.

Her number can go lower with a new food??? I never knew that… so in like 40 minutes I will give her some wet and see if she eats it… If not and she doesn’t eat tomorrow morning then I’m really going to freak!!!
Melissa

Tucker,
That would be great!!! I don’t have a testing meter yet and I’m so freaking out I don’t know what to do…. I don’t have a car and if the vet wants me to come tomorrow I wont know what to do!!!! Belle is sleeping and its making me so worried….. I hope she isn’t dying!!! Is this a sign of Death???? OMG this is so not fun!!!! I want to cry!! I am crying…
Melissa
 
It would be wonderful if Jennifer can help you with hometesting. It takes so much of the stress away to know what is really happening.

Some kitties do react more to a food change than others. Remember non diabetic cats vomit too. It isn't that unusual and they often are off their food for a while afterwards. There are some tricks if she is still not eating by tomorrow - heat the wet food up so it is nice and stinky, put parmesan cheese or tuna juice on it. Some people have even been known to handfeed reluctant eaters. (Put a bit of food on your finger and offer it.)

It is hard, and normal to worry about everything when they are first diagnosed. Just remember, she is a cat and cats do odd things all the time - especially in the eating and pooping department.
 
Melissa,
The fact that you got your glucose numbers at the vet...and these are the numbers you are dosing off of...combined with the fact that you have since gone with a low carb diet in my opinion says until you start testing you should cut your dose in half.
As for calming down...well, we've all been there----and we are still all here enjoying our cats and feeling like we all made much ado over nothing. You will look back and laugh at how crazy this made you.
I hope you did not shoot full dose.
As a matter of fact we would all like to hear more about your whole cat report. peeing, pooping (we know) preening, playing, purring....how are these things?
 
I think at this point, I'd cut the dose like Lori suggested. This will help to calm you and since we don't know blood sugar numbers, it's probably best.

I can swing by Saturday morning, just let me know what time is good. You can send me a private message through the board with time and location or send an email to me at jennifer @dcin.info (remove the space).

I forgot to mention, my name is Jennifer :) If you need a test kit just let me know and I'll bring one with me and some test strips to keep you going for a bit.
 
Dearest Jennifer and dearest Lori,

I have spoken with Melissa. Belle is napping now. Melissa is not... The vet said to bring her in in the morning. Melissa has no money. The vet said her throwing up and pooping is because of the insulin. I asked her if she fed Belle something different today. Yes, she did. Friskies Turkey and Giblets. I said, then don't feed her that again, okay? She won't.

Jennifer, Melissa will welcome your visit! Lori, Melissa will welcome a newbie kit, she just can't pay for the postage. Nor can I on her behalf.

I honestly believe in my heart Melissa loves Belle. I also honestly believe in my heart that Belle, despite puking and pooping, is doing better than Melissa. This should come as no surprise to Melissa as I have been very candid with her. I just want her to calm down and us all to be on the same helpful page for them both.

Thank you all! Sometimes it takes a village to help a new worried mom and her sugar cat. I know this to be true because I was a complete train wreck when Giz was diagnosed. And, we were both embraced by this village...

All my love and as many hugs as any of you could possibly imagine,
Deb and Nikki -- and, Giz, forever dancing in my heart...
 
Wow.. well, we've all been there before. We've ALL panicked & not known what to do at one point or another!

We just need to remember to take a DEEP breath, and try to relax for our kittys sake.

I hope Deb talking to her helped her somewhat, and Jennifer can go over soon to help with hometesting. IMHO I find it weird the vet says the puking & diarrhea is from the insulin, when the cat has had new food recently?

Hoping you're feeling a little calmer now Melissa, since you've talked to Deb, and hopefully can expect Jennifer (Tucker's mom) over to help with hometesting soon.
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Rereading this thread I believe it has been said that Belle did get her full dose, 1 unit, with at this time no food on board.
I did'nt notice that in the first post.
Am I wrong?
Now this is no reason to lose it ok, but I just want to be sure we are all on 'the same page' as Deb said.
Is there karo or any HC gravy in the house?
Perhaps pancake syrup? Honey?
I mention these things becuase Belle may not want to eat and if she goes a bit low, well, you can just do a rub on the gums.
I know you have Deb's number so I'm assuming you will have an immediate go to person.
Signs and Symptoms of Hypo.
Please, this is not a scare....it's just one of those realities that you may have shot an empty tummy.
Be Prepared is all.
Lori
 
Jennifer and Melissa,
I am in SECT, I notice you are in Milford Jennifer, is there anything I can do? Am I closer? Farther away?

Let me know, I'm new I know, but I have been very successful at testing Christian, and, well, have taken care of my two boys for a long time before Christian became a sugarcat.

I will tell you Melissa, that I noticed that Christian vomits when I try the Evo, he loves it, but apparently it does not sit well with him.

I'll let the more experienced folks keep advising, but as I said, I'm willing to do something if I can.

Praying to St. Francis for all kitties!

Theresa and Christian
 
TheresaJ860 said:
Jennifer and Melissa,
I am in SECT, I notice you are in Milford Jennifer, is there anything I can do? Am I closer? Farther away?

Let me know, I'm new I know, but I have been very successful at testing Christian, and, well, have taken care of my two boys for a long time before Christian became a sugarcat.

I will tell you Melissa, that I noticed that Christian vomits when I try the Evo, he loves it, but apparently it does not sit well with him.

I'll let the more experienced folks keep advising, but as I said, I'm willing to do something if I can.

Praying to St. Francis for all kitties!

Theresa and Christian

Thank you, she's closer to the NY border, probably almost two hours for you. Nice to know there's another person from the nutmeg state on the Board :)
 
tuckers mom said:
Thank you, she's closer to the NY border, probably almost two hours for you. Nice to know there's another person from the nutmeg state on the Board :)

Not a problem, thank you, if you find yourself with a need, RI, Washington County, or SECT, let me know.
 
Are we all pretty much in agreement that the P & P is NOT being caused by the insulin?

Deb, thank you thank you thank you a million times thank you for dealing with this on a one-to-one basis!

Lori, unless Jennifer is going to carry a kit, or parts of a kit to Melissa this weekend, the "newbie kit" deals with Paypal, correct. Let me know, I'll pay for express delivery of whatever you can send to Melissa and Belle that way.

Melissa - please, honey, you have to calm down some. I understand the panic and feeling of not knowing what you are doing, and the fear that you are going to lose dear Belle. That isn't, repeat, isn't going to happen IF - you read and reread all of the amazing advice you are getting from all of the amazing people who are posting in your threads. But you have to be able to push aside your fears and your panic, and really really focus on what people are telling you, and advising you to do. When they tell you that all the signs you mention - she's purring, she's napping, she's cleaning herself, she's peeing less and using the box regularly - when they tell you that all those things mean she is feeling okay, that means that she IS doing better. Yes, today you had a terrible time because she vomited and has diarrhea. Not fun at all, for her or for you. But that doesn't mean you are losing her.
Please listen to Lori's advice, which I and several others agree with - instead of giving her 1 unit in the shot, change that to only 1/2 unit per shot. Until you are shown how to test her sugar and know for sure what her numbers are, you will be giving her LESS insulin. That will make it easier on you, because you won't have to worry so much about her going "low", and it will be safer for Belle, which is the most important thing.
This is going to be okay Melissa. But you have to start believing that. It doesn't do any good for us to keep telling you that if you don't believe it in your heart.
Carl and Bob in SC
 
To all my dear every ones, and, of course, their furries,

Melissa is not shooting anything tonight because of Belle's tummy issues. There is no insulin on board.

Let's all cop a squat or a lay down.

Jennifer's planning her visit. So, Lori, please save your test kit for another newbie who will be along in probably five seconds.

Carl, you owe me two packs of cigs and a bottle of home grown chardonnay.

I love this board and I am taking my phone to bed because I told Melissa I would. Let us all hope Belle eats again and doesn't puke.

Sweet dreams every one! Night night.

Love and hugs,
Deb and Nikki -- and, Giz, who showed me and urged me to pay it forward...
 
I am happy to send a kit. I have only been waiting for an address. Melissa did you get my pm?

And Melissa, FWIW, I tend to freak out when my kitty not well. I tend to go to that worse case scenario...and I tend to think I can't manage it or afford it. Well I used to be worse, now I am better.

The thing is....you have found the best place to be for a diabetic kitty.
Not only do we have mounds of experience likely better than most vets...but we really care and are happy to go out of our way to see to it your kitty will have everything she needs.
You are here now. That means you have already been blessed. You are family.

And you have phone contact with Deb, possibly one of the most delightful people to talk to when one is freaking out.
Melissa.....you have hit the jackpot honey.

Things will soon get much much better.
Lori
 
Carl, you owe me two packs of cigs and a bottle of home grown chardonnay.

LOL, let me know what brand you smoke and they are on the way. The post office won't allow me to ship liquids, but you let me know how much the bottle costs.... Just don't go too crazy. I work for the govt., and we're in a budget crunch. :lol:

sweet dreams,
Carl and Bob
 
maybe someone could take the 911 off the post . . . :shock:

melissa, you'll be fine. as a wise person from FDMB told me, this is a marathon, not a sprint.

you are in the best of hands here & people will teach you what you need to know. fear comes from not understanding what's going on. when you learn how to home-test and what the numbers mean, the information will help you know that there is nothing to be afraid of. you're just starting Diabetes 101 - you'll get it. hang in there. :YMHUG:
 
Lori, it's Weds now and even if you overnight for Thursday delivery she might not hometest until I can show her. I can bring a meter, and a back up, one that was used for two weeks by someone to check their kitty and then returned, plus I can bring test strips and lancets with me.

Melissa, I've shown a lot of folks how to hometest and am very happy to show you too. I can even bring coffee if you'd like :) Just PM me your address and time. I feed a few colonies of community cats Sat. morning but that's usually before many folks are up on a weekend, so I can come over just about any time during on Saturday. Melissa, if you don't think Saturday is good then please do take Lori up on her offer to ship a kit to you.
 
Update on Melissa's Belle

Hi dear everyone, and, of course, all your sweet furries,

My apologies for the update delay. Have been slammed with another bout of acid reflux resulting in being in bed or the bathroom the last three days/nights. I only came downstairs to take care of Nikki and recharge the phone.

Here's the scoop on Belle, who's doing better! The best way to describe everything, I guess would be to go day by day.

Wednesday:
Belle threw up and had a little diarrhea in the morning. Melissa gave no insulin. Belle's vet appointment was canceled because of a medical emergency involving her father's girlfriend, who was going to take them; but, was obviously unable to do so. Melissa did speak with the vet a couple of times; but, he was reluctant to diagnose Belle over the phone. Unfortunately he mentioned ketones and other serious possibilities. Melissa became very upset with the prospect of enormous vet bills as she has no money. I told her we don't know it's ketones. Let's try to relax, okay? Let's see how she does today.

By early afternoon, Belle had eaten a bit of FF and some dry food and kept both down. At some point later that afternoon, she drank almost an entire dog bowl of water. She also purred a bit when Melissa pet her. She even was on the bed for a while instead of kind of hiding. By evening, Melissa was concerned because she drank all that water and hadn't peed. I assured her Belle would pee. I also told her that Belle had given Melissa the gift of the first of the 5 Ps: Purring. By now, Melissa had skipped two shots (counting Tuesday night). She also skipped her shot that night.

Thursday:
Belle was still eating and keeping it down. She hadn’t pooped since the brief diarrhea Wednesday morning. Melissa believes she peed during the night. (There’s another cat, Juliet, a civvie, so you all know the multiple-cat box drill...) She also started preening. At some point late afternoon/early evening, Melissa went out, and when she returned found a cat toy in the kitchen. She says Belle is the only one that does that. So, now we can add more to Belle’s list of 5 Ps: Peeing, Preening, and Playing . This after skipping four shots, so Melissa chose to skip that night's shot as well...

Friday:
By early afternoon, Melissa called to say Belle had definitely peed and finally pooped -- a normal poop. She was perkier and had flown into the kitchen when she smelled the bacon Melissa was making. She enjoyed a couple of small bites immensely. Belle had now accomplished the last of the 5 Ps: Pooping. Melissa had given no shot, nor was she intending to. She was now convinced Belle is not a diabetic. I told her that when Jennifer comes to teach you how to home test Belle in the comfort of her own surroundings, you'll know that for sure. She told me that her plans for the weekend had changed. She and her father were leaving that night to spend the weekend at his girlfriend's helping her fix things around her house. She would be bringing both Belle and Juliet... I suggested she let Jennifer know that. She told me her internet service was down...





There is more; but, I'm not going there. Please understand that this is both a delicate and precarious situation and Jennifer is aware of this. It is my hope that you all will remain supportive; or, if you must, very, very gently disagree. Let's all be glad that Belle is doing much better and hold hope in our hearts that she continues to do so.

I've been privileged to help a lot of newbies here. But, must confess, this is whole new territory for me...

Thank you all so much for listening and caring.

Much love and countless hopeful hugs for you all and your furries -- and for Belle and Melissa,
Deb and Nikki -- and, Giz, forever dancing in my heart...


PS: Oh, and Carl? Pall Mall Orange 100s (because they're cheap), Blue 100s in a pinch. Don't worry about the chardonnay. After this week, I'm a Gatorade and ginger ale girl...
 
Your lips to God's ears, dear Julie.

Time will tell...

Love and hugs for you and Punkin,
Deb and Nikki -- and, Giz, forever dancing in my heart...

PS: You had a good idea about removing the 911. I'm trying to reach a moderator to take of that.
 
We have had many a kitty get upset tummies that would make the exorcist scene look like spit. Try not to worry too much. Whenever changing foods always take it very slow. A lot of kitties tummies are very sensitive. Deep breaths, yes she needs insuling but not if she isn't eating and she may not after her episode today. Not to worry... take up the food and if you need to skip the insulin then do so to make sure she doesn't go hypo. Yeah kitty might feel yucky but she just needs a little time. Just make sure she drinks and watch for dehydration. Pepcid A/C it good to help but if you have none and no way to get some then wait it out till she feels better. Stick to the Fancy Feast for now and if you want to change then do it a teaspoon at a time next time. It will be okay they are resilent creatures.
 
Deb,

Please when you speak with Melissa again let her know that DH & I along with the now 13 cats in the household (long story) and even the drooler have all our fingers, toes, and paws crossed for her and her beautiful Belle. May Belle continue to improve and that she and Melissa have many many more happy years together.

Mel, Maxwell, Musette & The Fur Gang
 
I guess if Melissa's internet is down she is not reading/receiving these posts at this time...so any words are unread?
I know you have said everything that needs to be said so I will only add that if you speak to her again you may tell her that lori and tom are so eager to work with her and make sure Belle has the best care that we can provide her with.
And I am in a position with syringes and lancets...maybe even some strips, to help in that dept.
As well as emotional support.
As well as instructions when needed.
Just so she knows...and that aside from syringes and lancets, she can expect the same from a great many people here.
You might add that we are actually eager to work with her and Belle.
OK?
(((((DEB)))))
Lori
 
Dear Byt2luv,

Byt2luv said:
We have had many a kitty get upset tummies that would make the exorcist scene look like spit.
Thank you for my first LOL of the morning! Your image is purrfect!



Dearest Mel and Family,

I don't expect to hear from Melissa until she and her cats get home. Maybe tonight. Maybe tomorrow. Will pass on your kind and hopeful words. Thank you!



Dearest Lori,

lori and tom said:
I guess if Melissa's internet is down she is not reading/receiving these posts at this time...so any words are unread?
I don't know if there's a computer where she's visiting, so I don't know if she's reading... She did say she'd called AT&T (her ISP) to let them know her service was down. Not sure if that was Thursday or Friday...

I will indeed pass on your generous offer of a newbie kit -- again. I'll also pass on your kind offer to help and work with them both. I'll ask her if it's okay to share her phone number with you the next time I speak with her, okay?

But, first things first! How are you feeling? I hope a little better each and every day. No lecture this time... ;o)



Much love and countless grateful hugs for you all and your furries,
Deb and Nikki -- and, Giz...
 
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