Glucose Readings Seem Low

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MonkeyCat

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I did a glucose curve after a few months using a Relion Prime and found that Monkey'a levels were close to 40. I brought it back up but he is staying in the 100s with no insulin. Is this good or bad? I last gave him insulin on Saturday.
 
Hello, well that is good without insulin. The target you are aiming for is 40-120 so if Monkey is staying like that he's on a OTJ trial!
 
Is this good or bad?
Very good indeed. :-)
If he stays in normal numbers without insulin for 14 days we'd consider him in remission, ie. a diet-controlled diabetic.

Be aware though that remission may not be permanent. Try, if possible to continue to test blood glucose on occasion just to ensure that it is remaining in normal levels. And watch out for infections, as these can knock cats out of remission (dental or urinary tract infections, for example). And never, ever, ever feed high carb food....

Keeping fingers and paws firmly crossed that Monkey does go into remission and that the remission is permanent.... :bighug:

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We've been a little over a month with no insulin, but yesterday he started getting tired. Today he had vomiting and diarrhea. We took him in, and $800 worth of tests later, they still aren't quite sure what's wrong. The liver and kidneys seem normal, but he looks like he has gas in his intestines. The ER said he doesnt even look like he has diabetes. They want us to come back for more tests. Ugh! New baby coming and can't afford our day to day. I have to be at the airport in a few hours. I'm freaking out. Mostly thinking, is it worth it to keep probing my 16 yo cat? Will I be back again in a few months for something else?
 
I second the recommendation to test for pancreatitis (Spec fPL for lab assay on severity or SNAP fPL in-house test for Yes/No result). Vomiting, diarrhoea, gas and lethargy are all clinical signs that could be due to pancreatitis. I've seen several cats here - my own included - who had pancreatitis issues a short while after finishing insulin treatment. I wanted to keep giving Saoirse a daily microdose of insulin to provide a bit of support for her pancreas (she has chronic pancreatitis and she was running in the mid-higher part of the normal range not long after insulin treatment was withdrawn) but a specialist she was referred to put the kibosh on that and our own vets could not then prescribe for her. I'm still angry about that 18 months later; I had to watch Saoirse gradually deteriorate for the best part of a year before I could get another Lantus Rx for her.

If it does prove to be a touch of pancreatitis then it can be successfully managed with the right supportive meds. The sooner you get them in place the better; it can lessen the severity of a flare. Cerenia is good for nausea and vomiting in the first instance. For ongoing anti-nausea treatment and maintenance I can't recommend ondansetron highly enough. If it is a flare then pain relief may be needed (buprenorphine). A course of B12 injections helps a great deal. If appetite is an issue cyproheptadine is mild in effect. It is relatively short in duration of effect but you can give it up to 3x per day so it can give you much better control over the amount of appetite stimulation required (plus no risk of serotonin syndrome). It's important to ensure that Monkey is properly hydrated, too. If BG is up then it is better to reinstate insulin therapy as soon as possible. It's vital that you keep Monkey eating regularly; very small, frequent meals are better.

IDEXX pancreatitis treatment guidelines

Nausea, vomiting and appetite problems - symptoms and treatments


Cats going through a pancreatitis flare can look really, really ill and it can be absolutely terrifying if the flare is severe BUT ... once they get the right supportive treatments in place it can be astounding how well they recover (been through two really bad ones with Saoirse but she improved enormously with appropriate treatment).

Just to cover all bases, make sure Monkey isn't constipated as this can also cause lethargy and vomiting (get vet to do a physical exam). Note: sometimes cats may get a little diarrhoea when they're constipated due to more liquid faeces getting squeezed round a 'stuck' stool. More information at www.felineconstipation.org.

Make sure you also test urine TODAY for ketones (using Keto-diastix or similar). If you get a trace result call your vet for advice straight away. If you get anything higher than trace get Monkey to the vets IMMEDIATELY for emergency treatment (to head off possibility of DKA).


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