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Bobbie And Bubba

Bobbie And Bubba

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Bubba's been in a bounce. This AM he was 416. This PM he is 232. Should I shoot the same dose......1.8? Im worried because of how fast he went down last night after the PM shot.
 
Well, he went down pretty fast, but he didn't go anywhere near the hypo-zone range; those were some nice blues.
Can you get in a few tests tonight? I would be inclined to hold the 1.8; but if you're really worried, I suppose you could drop it just a smidge.
(What's your gut sayin' to you?)
 
Robin&BB said:
Well, he went down pretty fast, but he didn't go anywhere near the hypo-zone range; those were some nice blues.
Can you get in a few tests tonight? I would be inclined to hold the 1.8; but if you're really worried, I suppose you could drop it just a smidge.
(What's your gut sayin' to you?)
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thx Robin, gut's saying drop a smidge, 1.6.....
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Thank you thank you! Shot him.. I was ready to shot and I second guessed it. He dropped quickly last night and it made me anxious. At the +4 he tested 58! I retest and got 101. Geez.....Thanks for being right there when I needed you!
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No, no skipped shot yesterday I forgot to put in the amount
 
Ok, so you shot 1.8 yesterday morning, I see.
Well, Bobbie ... it's scary when you're not quite sure what the heck they're gonna do, huh? So looks like you shot the 1.8, right? I was looking back at when you doubled his dose on the morning of the 11th (to the 1.8) and he'd been popping you some good #s since then ... Who knows why he suddenly bounced up to those reds last two mornings? The important thing is that you got a good, shootable PMPS - perhaps he won't dip as far down tonight?

You are planning to get in a couple of tests tonnight, I assume? (Just in case...)
 
Robin&BB said:
Ok, so you shot 1.8 yesterday morning, I see.
Well, Bobbie ... it's scary when you're not quite sure what the heck they're gonna do, huh? So looks like you shot the 1.8, right? I was looking back at when you doubled his dose on the morning of the 11th (to the 1.8) and he'd been popping you some good #s since then ... Who knows why he suddenly bounced up to those reds last two mornings? The important thing is that you got a good, shootable PMPS - perhaps he won't dip as far down tonight?

You are planning to get in a couple of tests tonnight, I assume? (Just in case...)
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oh, yeah, I will test. Better not hit the wine so hard tonight! Was thinking one at =4 and +7 to see what's what. Yeah, the morning I doubled the dose was after he pulled a 160 something on me and I stalled. I chickened out, and 1.2 his dose. Sue said to go back to the 1.8 the next morning and that's when he started his bounce. I probably chickened out tonight too. My thinking is the differences in the numbers he dropped not so much the zone. Would he perhaps drop the same differences tonight? If he did, he would be in trouble.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
oh, yeah, I will test. I probably chickened out tonight too. My thinking is the differences in the numbers he dropped not so much the zone. Would he perhaps drop the same differences tonight? If he did, he would be in trouble.
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Ok, your SS says you shot 1.8 tonight. Is that correct?
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
oh, yeah, I will test. Better not hit the wine so hard tonight! Was thinking one at =4 and +7 to see what's what. Yeah, the morning I doubled the dose was after he pulled a 160 something on me and I stalled. I chickened out, and 1.2 his dose. Sue said to go back to the 1.8 the next morning and that's when he started his bounce. I probably chickened out tonight too. My thinking is the differences in the numbers he dropped not so much the zone. Would he perhaps drop the same differences tonight? If he did, he would be in trouble.
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Im really screwing up, I shot 1.6 tonight and typed 1.8.....I get all befuddled.....
 
No worries, Bobbie - that sort of thing happens to me, too!:confused:
Am glad I double checked with you on the dose, though.

Is FINE that you shot a smidgeon lower @ 1.6U. Remember: Is always better to err on the side of caution if you're uncertain, as a higher BG# at next shot time is way better than a hypo event! And you'll be checking @ +4 & +7 anyway. (I don't think this slightly lowered dose is going to cause any significant bouncing tomorrow.) Hard to say how much he'll drop; every time I've thought I had Bat-Bat all figured out, the little bugger would suddenly toss me a curve-ball ...

Ha, if you're having a bit o' the grape tonight, just make sure you don't accidentally poke yourself with the lancet!:p (I've done that, too - even without a Skye & cranberry.):rolleyes:
 
Hey, I'm just curious: What is it you give him when you need to steer with food? I notice that most everybody here uses the high-carb stuff with gravy, but I just use her usual FF turkey w/giblets (like 2/8ths can) and test again in 15 min. unless she's already gone well beyond the cutoff # that starts hypo alert (which is @ <69 on my Alpha Trak range). Lucky for me, she normally rises pretty fast within the next 15 min. And then I usually test again in another 1/2 hr. or so to make sure she's not doing the drop thing again.

Is probably not the best idea for somebody who can't be around to test (say, someone who has to go back to work, etc.), but I found that Bat-Bat tended to hang onto that "gravy-effect" longer than I liked; seemed to impact her next pre-shot # whenever I used the higher-carb stuff to steer. But: ECID!
 
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I notice that most everybody here uses the high-carb stuff with gravy,
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Most of the time if Saoirse was on the low side during a Lantus cycle, I used her normal low-carb food to steer her numbers. Gravy was held in reserve until things looked like they might turn dicey (when she was close to going into remission and her pancreas was joining in).
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Luckily, I haven't had to steer with food yet. But, that said, I too will steer with regular food first. I read an interesting article from a vet who says don't give karo and high carb food, that regular food would be enough and she claims it's more for the bean's peace of mind than for the cat. She has some very interesting ideas...and claims she has never had a cat go hypo on her or any of her clients that follow her protocol. If your are interested, I'll send to you to look over. I don't have the guts to shoot into low numbers, but her theory is the faster you get their numbers into the zone, the faster their pancreas will start working on their own.
 
Critter Mom said:
Most of the time if Saoirse was on the low side during a Lantus cycle, I used her normal low-carb food to steer her numbers. Gravy was held in reserve until things looked like they might turn dicey (when she was close to going into remission and her pancreas was joining in).
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That's exactly what I would do and I am glad I haven't ever had to steer yet. Is it possible a cat will just shape up and fly right without all the drama of a hypo event? Geez.......
 
Robin&BB said:
No worries, Bobbie - that sort of thing happens to me, too!:confused:
Am glad I double checked with you on the dose, though.

Is FINE that you shot a smidgeon lower @ 1.6U. Remember: Is always better to err on the side of caution if you're uncertain, as a higher BG# at next shot time is way better than a hypo event! And you'll be checking @ +4 & +7 anyway. (I don't think this slightly lowered dose is going to cause any significant bouncing tomorrow.) Hard to say how much he'll drop; every time I've thought I had Bat-Bat all figured out, the little bugger would suddenly toss me a curve-ball ...

Ha, if you're having a bit o' the grape tonight, just make sure you don't accidentally poke yourself with the lancet!:p (I've done that, too - even without a Skye & cranberry.):rolleyes:
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You mentioned the reduced shot and likely not to cause any significant bouncing. I am confused as to why a reduced amount would cause bouncing? Can you explain that to me? I did just test him at +4 and he went up 29 points when I was expecting a drop. Weird! Is that what you were talking about?
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
You mentioned the reduced shot and likely not to cause any significant bouncing. I am confused as to why a reduced amount would cause bouncing? Can you explain that to me? I did just test him at +4 and he went up 29 points when I was expecting a drop. Weird! Is that what you were talking about?
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Well, you can never tell what kind of adjustment will make them do the bouncy-bounce; there were times, early on in treatment, that I couldn't figure out what the heck was going on with Bat-Bat when I'd change a dose. They're all different!

You might pose that question to Sue tomorrow, as she's really very savvy about that whole bouncing thing; whereas it's still somewhat confusing to me (ha, may have to do with my "directional dyslexia" thing, too:confused:).
 
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