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Helenjayne

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I just got a reading of 4.2 (75.6) from fred but insulin can't have caused it as his numbers are too low to give him shots more often than not at the moment, so is this number low for a cat who has just gone into (unconfirmed) remission? Thanks x
 
His numbers this week, anything with an x (haven't put one next to this mornings yet) means he didn't have his shot
 

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Hi Helen, if I'm reading your calendar correctly and Fred hasn't had insulin for a few days, 4.2 is a nice normal number. It would be more worrying if he still had insulin in his system and he might therefore be at risk of dropping lower, but this doesn't seem likely. You're using Caninsulin I believe??? so even more reason to think that the insulin is gone - it's an "in and out" insulin and once it's used up, that's it - unlike some of the longer-lasting insulins that can create a "depot" effect and doses can overlap sometimes.

So I would say that you're ok but if you're doing a curve today keep us posted so we can see how things pan out.

Good luck!
Diana
 
Yes - the next number especially will be interesting. Fred's numbers have been gradually going down for a couple of days now and although it's unlikely that his last dose is still at work, anything is possible I guess so if he's lower than 4.2 at his next test keep a very close eye. Just sounding a note of caution to make you aware but fingers and paws crossed that you and Fred are actually doing very well!

Diana
 
Hmmm yes give him a little dry if you have it perhaps... It's not much of a drop from two hours ago but we don't want him to keep dropping now. Test again in an hour if you can... This is one of those situations where you just don't know what's happening. And keep an eye on him.
 
Yes a teeny up would be good, just to show us he's not going lower than just now. This could be an interesting day!
 
That's a nice looking number, Helen. Keep on with the curve today. It will be interesting to see how a few days without insulin affects Fred. His being steroid-induced MIGHT make things a tad different in that maybe the insulin lasts longer in him and/or maybe he is producing some insulin of his own, so this makes it more complicated to see what's going on. Maybe someone with experience of this could help out...?

Diana
 
Helen

Just a couple if questions.

What sort of meter are you using a human or pet? Also what type of steroid was given, for how long and when was the last time it was used?
 
Hi Helen, I have to go out in a few minutes and will be off the board for the afternoon... Mary Ann is keeping an eye while she can and hopefully other members will pop in too so keep posting Fred's numbers!
 
He was on long and slow acting steroids for a few months, poor thing was naked. I am using a human meter, the SD codefree x
 
Thank you for the information Helen.

The long acting steroids like DepoMedrol can take up to a month or so to clear the system. The shorter acting steroids usually clear the system within a few days. If the diabetes was steroid induced it can take a while to get the blood sugars back down. Even if the diabetes was steroid induced and Fred does go into remission, he would still be considered diabetic and would always need to have a low carb wet food diet.

The numbers you are getting are in a decent range when using a human meter and seem to be coming back down into a good range. There is a chance that Fred may be "considering" remission. Remission is defined as when a kitty is staying between 2.8-6.7 on a human meter when not on insulin, so Fred is not quite there, but looking good overall.
 
See this is the info it would be good for my vet to actually know, plus side a fructosamine test has been mentioned by the vet x
 
He has been in the room with the other foster cats biscuits, I am surprised but he seems to have left them alone x
 
10.4 2 hours post meal, not gonna give a shot as that will probably drop soon and I think the stolen biscuits have contributed, if it's up in an hour I will give insulin x
 
Could being stressed cause this peak? I know he is fed up with ear pricks now bless him x
 

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Yeah, he's still under 200 so I wouldn't shoot either

Give the kibble a chance to clear and let's see where he's at in the morning

Are you using a phone/tablet? Do you have access to a computer?
 
It's not all going wrong, Helen - in fact you (and Fred) did really well yesterday so give yourself some credit please! Curve days can def be stressful for owner as well as kitty so give yourselves some little treats today (not necessarily food - whatever floats your boat, and some extra play time for Fred maybe?)

No-one said that treating FD was easy - you know the saying, it's a marathon not a sprint. It can certainly test our patience but don't give up, you will get there with Fred I'm sure.

If you're stuck with the spreadsheet, try starting a new thread and calling it 'help please setting up spreadsheet' or similar - that will bring it to the attention of the techy types here who can really help you out. As Chris says, it would make it easier for peeps to see what's going on and give you advice.

Diana
 
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