Civvie question: young obnoxious Osky

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Lacie

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Osky is my 8-month-old neutered male civvie whom I found as a kitten at seven weeks old, sitting on his butt by the side of a major commuter road watching the cars speed by at 55mph. Of course for years I had kept a strict two-cat limit in my house, and of course I turned around. When I got out of the car, he came bouncing up to me like, "What took you so long?"

Leo and Samantha are adults and pretty laid back. Samantha is tiny, and Leo is front declawed (came to me that way) and missing a canine. From the beginning, Osky has been a little terror who is fast growing up to be a big terror. I can't tell whether it's just kitten play or genuinely aggressive behavior, and with kittens it's hard to tell the difference. He just can't stand to go longer than five minutes without stalking somebody and picking a fight by jumping on them and biting them on the back of the neck. Well, except when he's just too tired to keep it up any longer and falls asleep.

He also has a hard time being petted; wants to bite my hand when I reach down to pet him. But this isn't 100% of the time, probably more like 70%. At feeding time I always pet him, and throughout the day I hand feed him treats while I stroke him. He'll let me pick him up for short periods of time and even likes being held on his back, as long as I keep it under a minute. So I think there's a good chance I can tame him and make get along with the other members of the household. I'm pretty sure he was a barn cat until I found him; he was filthy but well fed and quite socialized, so he wasn't feral, but he spent his first seven weeks in a highly competitive environment. He's also blue eyed and cross eyed; his vision and hearing are normal so far as I know.

Osky sleeps in the big downstairs room from 11 p.m. to 9:00 a.m. He actually seems to like it and is calmer there, but it doesn't have windows, and I worry about the confinement making him worse. Upstairs with the other cats, though, I have to watch him constantly and squirt him whenever he locks in and gets ready to attack another cat. I'm not getting much done around the house lately :cry: Lately I've been confining Samantha (who likes small spaces) while Osky's upstairs, so at least I only have to keep him away from one other cat.

Do you think he's insecure, aggressive, just playing, combination of all? How would you handle it? Would Feliway help? (I've heard it helps with insecurity but not aggression.) I've tried just letting them duke it out, but I was starting to get behavior problems from the other two, and litter box problems weren't far away since he was attacking them during toilet time.

He is a handsome boy, and he smooches when he eats treats from my hand. Just an obnoxious teenager, but the predatory behavior needs to stop.
 

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It can't hurt to try the Feliway, especially since you have an ideal spot to try it in (his nighttime space.) I wish I had more help to give you!
 
We found the Feliway helped reduce our civvie sh*tten's aggressive tendencies a little. Made him a bit more mellow - not a huge change, but a little bit of one. What really helped him was a. turning 2 years old and growing up a bit, and b. him making friends with our summer trapped feral Kerry who's now his best friend and wrestling buddy. Having at least one person he can pounce on who won't immediately say know really helped. Even though Kerry is half his size, they're about the same age and they act like litter mates... Kerry holds his own when they play, in fact he usually wins (lol).
 
Hes being an 8 month old kitten. It is likely not out and out aggression but wanting to play. If the behavior is all one sided, and affecting your other kitties to the point of not eating, not using the box, withdrawing, then you need to evaluate wether you should rehome him or not, or keep him in one room.

I am not there seeing it but from your description I think he just wants to play. See if squeem3 wants him for her Aby kitten terror!! LOL
 
He looks very much like a flame point meezer, and if he acts even half like a meezer then he is just being an obnoxious kitten. But it can cause problems if the other cats in the household are older. One suggestion is how about getting him another kitten around the same age to play with? Thankfully all mine have for the most part come in pairs so they have had playmates of their own age. But my meezers can be a handful for the older cats to take.

When they were kittens we had to separate them from at the time my two senior cats, as the seniors were just not impressed with having a youngster leaping on their heads or using their tails as cat toys. My house still looks like a day care with all the toys all over the place to keep the meezers out of trouble.

Mel. Max & The Fur Gang
 
Def looks like a meezer mix to me- and they don't outgrow that type of behavior very quickly. My 2 yr old still gets regular "time outs" for bad behavior (driving the other cats nuts). Try playing with him to wear out his energy- any type of activity that gets him really working hard- for my guy it is chasing wand style toys and leaping after them. Do NOT play games that are hands on- esp since he is already a biter, that will only encourage more bad behavior. Play for as long as your schedule permits, a couple of times a day- and don't feel bad about "time outs" as long as he has suitable toys and activity areas that could keep him occupied. Hiding food in and around is great if he is a good eater for example.

Meezers are highly intelligent, highly active cats and they can be a lot for civie cats (and many humans!) to handle. The most tolerant playmate of my guy is my other meezer, and he's pushing 18, so is NOT up for the constant play Hunter wants/needs.

The ideal situation would be another young high energy playmate, but that is not in the cards for my family right now either :)
 
One trick I use with my meezers is a treat ball, when they are in time out. I just fill up the ball with either catnip pellets or something like bonita flakes and let them have at it, that way they have to bat and chase the ball to get the treats so that keeps them busy and out of everyone's hair.

If he is a meezer mix and those blue eyes are a tip off that he probably is, he is going to be smart and like puzzles. So a treat ball might help work his little brain as well as expend some of that energy. Meezers are not cats for just everyone, they are very active and for the most part very talkitive and smart. And they don't out grow that behavior quickly, right now my meezers are 4 and 3 and they are still constantly in trouble. I have found them on the ceiling fans, on the top of the shower curtain rod, and even sleeping comfortably on the top of the curtains in the dinningroom. There is nothing that is safe from a meezer that wants to play, not a hand, foot, breakable vase or another cat. Our solution was to get them two sisters that were aby/mau crosses, now I have a houseful of wonderful flying cats...lol

Mel, Max & The Fur Gang
 
Hi Mel-

I think Merlin needs a treat ball...I'm embarassed to say I've never seen one for cats! Can I get one at PetSmart or Petco? Are they in the cat section or do you need to get a dog toy?
 
Flame point siamese was my first thought when I picked Osky up off the side of the highway, although at the time he had an eye infection and I couldn't see the orange mask. We cleared that up and it's been nothing but trouble ever since. I don't think somebody dropped him off out of a car--I think he walked away from a horse barn looking for better digs. Well, he found 'em.

So, typical siamese behavior, I've been warned. He's definitely a pistol. I could use more cat toys around here--I had a bunch of them but he shreds them to pieces in no time--I've never seen a kitten go through toys like this little guy. My friend gave me all her cat toys that her kitty wasn't aggressive enough to play with and Osky annihilated them one by one. Right now he's slowly peeling the fur off a great big toy rat she gave me because her cat was afraid of it. I have to watch him because he'll try to swallow anything small enough to put in his mouth. She also gave me a treat egg that he has to tip over to get the treats out of, so yes they're available. I think hers came from Drs. Foster & Smith.

I had to laugh about MommaOfMuse finding her cat up in the ceiling fan. Nothing would surprise me anymore. For now, time outs are the way to go while I consider rehoming or a fourth cat. A lot depends on how my sugarkitty does; he was diagnosed less than a month ago and we're still adjusting. Thanks to everyone who replied. A lot of these stories made me laugh, which is a nice relief from the stress of learning to test and shoot my diabetic guy.
 
It may be helpful too, to reward desireable behaviors - like when he walks away from the other cats, treat him, or if he sits near you or on you calmly, treat him. If he's all or part meezer, he's smart enough to learn.
 
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