Changed Food - BGs dropping!

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So I was awake at 5am thiss morning b/c of a bouncy ball of energy lab barking up a storm... I took the chance to test Kate's BG, 332. MUCH better than 515 from last night!

I went to Petsmart today and bought the Blue Buffalo Wilderness canned foods, Purina ProPlan canned foods and FF flaked and classics. I'm starting her with the BBW since they have the least carbs. She *LOVES* them. I also picked up some of the BB treats... she also loves those. I fed her around 3:30pm and just tested her. 327! I just fed her dinner and I'm going to test her in about an hour, but I am liking these numbers!

Hopefully this will get her to an acceptable level and I can manage with just food. <fingerscrossed>
 
Great that your cat likes the canned food :smile: Hopefully those numbers will drop a little more. Insulin will likely still be needed but maybe your cat will be on the of lucky ones who only need insulin for a short time :smile:

Which Blue Buffalo treats did you buy? The Kitty Yums ones have rice, potato, oatmeal, and maple syrup in them :shock: Definitely a no-no for a diabetic cat. The Wilderness ones have ground potato which may affect blood glucose levels.

Have you seen the list of popular low carb treats? http://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9172 The Wellness Pure Delights are simillar to the Blue Buffalo treats are and diabetic-friendly.
 
Last I checked, Purina Pro Plan canned foods all contained wheat gluten, soy, and corn starch--all ingredients to avoid with a diabetic cat. Try the Fancy Feast Classics instead--they are all grain free and low carb (and also made by Purina). Here's the diabetic safe ones: http://www.felinediabetes.com/glutenfree.htm. Another option is the Sheba Premium Pates--these are all also low carb. Just make sure the can says "Pate" on it because their higher carb "cuts" food is in an identical looking can.
 
squeem3 said:
Great that your cat likes the canned food :smile: Hopefully those numbers will drop a little more. Insulin will likely still be needed but maybe your cat will be on the of lucky ones who only need insulin for a short time :smile:

Which Blue Buffalo treats did you buy? The Kitty Yums ones have rice, potato, oatmeal, and maple syrup in them :shock: Definitely a no-no for a diabetic cat. The Wilderness ones have ground potato which may affect blood glucose levels.

Have you seen the list of popular low carb treats? http://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9172 The Wellness Pure Delights are simillar to the Blue Buffalo treats are and diabetic-friendly.

ohmygod_smile I looked at the GA and the calorie content on the Kitty Yums... Dang it! Well they are just going to have to do for tonight. It's storming and I'm not going out for different treats.

As far as the canned foods, I bought the Wilderness only... Turkey, Duck, Chicken and... Salmon. Had to think about that for a minute! They probably do have potato in them, but from the zillions of lists that I perused for days on end, they seemed the lesser of the other evils. They had the least carbs. Purina Pro Plan was on one of the losts that I looked at... I know. I did make sure to only buy the... ok, had to go to the kitchen.

I bought:
Blue Wilderness
Chicken - Crude Protein - 10%, Crude Fat 9%, Crude Fiber 1.5%, Moisture 78%, Ash 2.5%, 1546kcal/kg, 132 kcal/can
Duck - Crude Protein - 10%, Crude Fat 9%, Crude Fiber 1.5%, Moisture 78%, Ash 2.1%, 1304kcal/kg, 111 kcal/can
Turkey - Crude Protein - 10%, Crude Fat 9%, Crude Fiber 1.5%, Moisture 78%, Ash 2.5%, 1545kcal/kg, 132 kcal/can
Salmon - Crude Protein - 10%, Crude Fat 9%, Crude Fiber 1.5%, Moisture 78%, Ash 2.1%, 1354kcal/kg, 115 kcal/can

Purina Pro Plan
Adult, Chicken & Liver Entree, Classic
Crude Protein (Min) 11.0 %, Crude Fat (Min) 5.5 %, Crude Fiber (Max) 1.5 %, Moisture (Max) 78.0 %, Ash (Max) 3.0 %, Taurine (Min) 0.05 %
CALORIE CONTENT (CALCULATED):
As Fed, Dry Matter
Metabolizable Energy/oz, 34 kcal/oz, 145 kcal/oz
Metabolizable Energy/kg, 1202 kcal/kg, 5115 kcal/kg
Metabolizable Energy/3 oz. can, 102 kcal/can, 436 kcal/can

Adult, Ocean Whitefish & Salmon Entree, Classic
Crude Protein (Min) 11.0 %, Crude Fat (Min) 4.5 %, Crude Fiber (Max) 1.5 %, Moisture (Max) 78.0 %, Ash (Max) 3.5 %, Taurine (Min) 0.05 %
CALORIE CONTENT (CALCULATED):
As Fed, Dry Matter
Metabolizable Energy/oz, 31 kcal/oz, 131 kcal/oz
Metabolizable Energy/kg, 1086 kcal/kg, 4619 kcal/kg
Metabolizable Energy/3 oz. can, 92 kcal/can, 394 kcal/can

Senior Cat Age 11+, Chicken & Beef Entree, Classic
Crude Protein (Min) 10.0 %, Crude Fat (Min) 6 %, Crude Fiber (Max) 1.5 %, Moisture (Max) 78.0 %, Ash (Max) 3.5 %, Taurine (Min) 0.15 %
CALORIE CONTENT (CALCULATED):
As Fed, Dry Matter
Metabolizable Energy/oz, 31 kcal/oz, 131 kcal/oz
Metabolizable Energy/kg, 1086 kcal/kg, 4619 kcal/kg
Metabolizable Energy/3 oz. can, 92 kcal/can, 394 kcal/can

Adult, Turkey & Giblets Entree, Ground
Crude Protein (Min) 11.0 %, Crude Fat (Min) 3%, Crude Fiber (Max) 1.5 %, Moisture (Max) 78.0 %, Ash (Max) 2.7%, Taurine (Min) 0.05 %
CALORIE CONTENT (CALCULATED):
As Fed, Dry Matter
Metabolizable Energy/oz, 27 kcal/oz, 117 kcal/oz
Metabolizable Energy/kg, 950 kcal/kg, 4130 kcal/kg
Metabolizable Energy/3 oz. can, 81 kcal/can, 352 kcal/can

Fancy Feast
Classic
Tender Liver & Chicken Feast
Tender Beef Feast
Chopped Grill Feast
Tender Beef & Liver Feast
Salmon & Shrimp Feast
Chicken Feast
Seafood Feast
Cod, Sole & Shrimp Feast

Flaked
Trout Feast
Tuna & Mackeral
Salmon & Ocean Whitefish Feast
Tuna Feast
Chicken & Tuna Feast
Fish & Shrimp Feast
 
Julia & Bandit said:
Last I checked, Purina Pro Plan canned foods all contained wheat gluten, soy, and corn starch--all ingredients to avoid with a diabetic cat. Try the Fancy Feast Classics instead--they are all grain free and low carb (and also made by Purina). Here's the diabetic safe ones: http://www.felinediabetes.com/glutenfree.htm. Another option is the Sheba Premium Pates--these are all also low carb. Just make sure the can says "Pate" on it because their higher carb "cuts" food is in an identical looking can.

And can I just get a WTF on this... ok, on the can for Chicken & Liver Entree the ingredients literally read as follows: Water sufficient for processing, Chicken liver, meat by-products, poultry giblets, artifical and natural flavors, tricalcium phosphate, guar gum, potassium chloride, taurine, salt, vitamin E supplement, zinc sulfate, calcium phosphate, thiamine mononitriate, Ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, vitamin A supplement, copper sulfate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, niacin, vitamin B-12 supplement, riboflavin supplement, calcium pantothenate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), vitamin D-3 supplement, folic Acid, potassium iodide, biotin.
http://www.proplan.com/wet-cat-food/chicken-liver-entree/default.aspx

... Pause...

Ok, those ARE the correct ingredients for the Chicken & Liver Entree, the Turkey & Giblets has the wheat gluten and soy...
http://www.proplan.com/wet-cat-food/turkey-giblets-entree/default.aspx

Wow... my eyes hurt. I'm glad I looked twice because they were about to get a SERIOUSLY worded email about not putting the correct ingredients on the label!

The Ocean Whitefish & Salmon Entree also do not have wheat gluten or soy
http://www.proplan.com/wet-cat-food/ocean-whitefish-salmon-entree/default.aspx

The Senior Cat 11+ Chicken & Beef doesn't have wheat gluten or soy... which I don't think I remember picking out the "senior cat" food, but nonetheless.
http://www.proplan.com/senior-wet-cat-food/chicken-beef-entree/default.aspx

The Fancy Feast Flaked stuff looks pretty good too... the Fish & Shrimp Feast - Flaked has the following:
Crude Protein 17.5%
Crude Fat 2%
Crude Fiber 1.5%
Moisture 78%
Ash 3%
Taurine .05%
Ingredients: Ocean fish, fish broth, shrimp, calcium phosphate, vegetable oil, guar gum, vitamin E supplement, vitamin A supplement, sodium nitrate, zinc sulfate, thiamine mononitrate, manganese sulfate, menadione sodium bisulfate complex (source of vitamin K activity), riboflavin supplement, folic acid, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin D-3 supplement.
 
grr_red :evil: grr_red

Ok, looking through ALLLLLLL the foods I just bought and listed, here are the one's I found with wheat gluten and soy...
Chicken & Tuna Feast - Flaked
Salmon & Ocean Whitefish Feast - Flaked
Tuna Feast - Flaked
Tuna & Mackerel Feast - Flaked
Trout Feast - Flaked

ohmygod_smile ohmygod_smile ohmygod_smile

ok, lesson and note to self...

Darn, I thought I was doing so good too. :cry:
 
you are doing good - don't get angry over this. The good news - you can return the unopened cans.

Regarding Fancy Feast, the classics are all acceptable choices.

I haven't bought the flaked, so I can't comment, but the classics are all low carb and good to have.
 
Hi,
Here is my shopping list that I love sharing with everyone. I am always looking for new ones to add or corrections but it's taken from the most current lists we have floating around here on FDMB. I carry one in my purse now.

carb %
2% - Blue wilderness Chicken recipe -

5 % - Friskies flaked with tuna and egg
7% - Friskies Poultry platter

5% - fancy feast CLASSICS chicken feast- - stay away from any that are not classics
2%- fancy feast chopped grilled feast pate
2%- fancy feast cod, sole & shrimp feast pate
3%- fancy feast Ocean Whitefish and tuna pate
4%-fancy feast Savory Salmon feast pate
3%- fancy feast Seafood feast pate
4%-fancy feast Tender beef feast pate
4%-fancy feast Tender beef and chicken feast pate
2% - fancy feast Tender beef and liver feast pate
4%- fancy feast Tender liver and chicken feast pate
3%- fancy feast Turkey & giblets feast pate

5% - Merrick Cowboy cookout
3% - Merrick Surf n Turf
4% -Merrick Southern delight - this one has crawfish in it. My cat likes it occasionally.
1%- Merrick Before Grain 96% beef -
2% - Merrick Before Grain 96% chicken
2%- Merrick Before Grain 96% turkey
4% - Wellness chicken
4% - Wellness turkey
5% - Wellness turkey and salmon
3% - Instinct Grain free Nature's variety
0% - Natura Evo chicken and turkey
4% Natura Evo 95% duck
2% Natura Evo 95% venison

Tiki Cat claims all of theirs are 0% or 1% if it has rice ( I don't know if I believe the rice claim)
 
I printed and saved the list to my desktop... I can take the unused stuff back. Already have it in the bag!

I'm just slightly frustrated...

but! I have a list and more information and I'll forge on in my quest to make Katekate a healthy, happy kitty! :-D

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Just like Hillary & Maui said, you are doing good. Don't beat yourself up over it. It will get easier. There are new things I learn every day (having thought I was doing the right thing before). Hugs!
 
Here's the gluten-free list of low carb Fancy Feast: http://www.felinediabetes.com/glutenfree.htm

Julia & Bandit said:
Last I checked, Purina Pro Plan canned foods all contained wheat gluten, soy, and corn starch--all ingredients to avoid with a diabetic cat.

The ProPlan Oceanwhitefish and Salmon one doesn't have any of those ingredients and is low carb. But since it's fish, it should't be fed all the time.
 
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