Can stress put them back on the juice?

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Ruby's known to spike like crazy when she goes to the vet. If I get her OTJ (which we are working very hard at right now), could a big stress spike knock her pancreas back out of whack enough to put her back on insulin?
 
I think sometimes stress might play a factor in higher then normal readings, but I don't think one or two vet visits a year would knock a kitty out of remission .. at least, I hope not ... nailbite_smile
 
I think kitty may temporarily have higher readings. Once he/she is back home and feels safe again the readings will return to normal but be vigilant remember...ECID.
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Trauma can knock a cat out of remission--that's what happened after Bandit's last dental. A nerve got inflamed from the anesthesia and Bandit was so traumatized from the ordeal, his hair was turning gray. He was back off insulin in about a month. By contrast, when a freak accident necessitated that he get part of his tail amputated, he was in the 400s before his surgery, but after being home for 24 hrs his blood sugar was back to normal. So not all traumatic situations are traumatic enough to the cat do it.

A single vet visit may give you high numbers for a few hrs, but it's not going to be traumatizing enough to knock her out of remission, in my opinion.
 
This is off topic--but is Ruby still carrying around extra weight? I ask because I took a look at her spreadsheet, and I see she's staying a bit higher than normal. Bandit did the same thing when he went OTJ the first time, and I finally figured out it was because he was carrying around an extra lb. Once he lost that weight, his numbers all dropped down to greens and low blues.
 
I guesstimate that she's down about a pound. Its really obvious to me that she's lost some. I haven't invested in a baby scale yet. I'll toss her on our regular scale tonight and see what she rings in as. She was a tad under 14 lbs the last time I did it. She's always been very sturdy girl. Not in the "I"m not fat, I'm just big boned way"...she's just solid.
 
How do you get them to lose more weight?

She's fed 2 small cans of Fancy Feast a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. She rarely finishes those. She gets freeze dried chicken treats when I test her. I get her up and running as much as I can, but she's got to be in the mood.
 
I check my cats before I take them to the vet and they are under 100 however.. once at the vets their blood sugar goes up like crazy. Sophia's was 180 and she was 90 at home. How are they doing at home under normal circumstances?
 
Ruby is on Day 5 of her OTJ trial.

Sophia said:
I check my cats before I take them to the vet and they are under 100 however.. once at the vets their blood sugar goes up like crazy. Sophia's was 180 and she was 90 at home. How are they doing at home under normal circumstances?
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My Akbah, OTJ, is normally about 4.5 (90 or so) but when he got to the vet yesterday the vet's measure was 10 (180). Same as Sophia.
Post dentist, he was at 12.5 and later, 14.9 which is about 260 I think?
Today, its now 1pm, he's at 9.3 (167)!!! Hooray! Coming down!!!
 
She didn't mention it. When we first started all this nonsense she had just said she wanted Ru to lose a pound or two, which she's done. I need to invest in a baby scale.
 
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I need to invest in a baby scale.
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If you have a digital bathroom scale, you can weigh yourself with your kitty in your arms, then weigh yourself alone, and subtract for the kitty's weight. That's how I've been weighing Pumbaa, anyway.
 
14 lbs is a bit larger than the average female cat, who usually weights between 8-10 lbs. However, that doesn't mean that she's not a naturally large cat. When your vet started you on a weight loss plan, they should have calculated her ideal weight. I would call the vet and ask if they have that on file for you. If not, make sure you ask them to calculate it at your next visit.

One way to get an idea if she's overweight yourself is to feel her ribs--they should not be visible, but you should be able to feel them. Here is a guide to help you determine if she's still overweight: http://www.pet-health-care-gazette.com/cat body condition chart.jpg

Definitely start weighing her every week so you can determine if she's still losing weight on the 6oz per day. Cat's should lose weight slowly, not more than 1-2% of their body weight per week.

If her ideal weight is around 13lbs, then 6oz of food seems about right. Bandit's ideal weight is 13 lbs and that's how much food he gets. However, ECID, and her age and metabolism will affect the amount of food she needs as well.
 
Regarding the question of stress and juice, Akbah's trip to the dentist is receding in his mind, as reflected by his BG which went up on the day, and came down slowly.
normally its in the 5.0 range (95 or so?)
at the vet, 10 (180)
on coming home, 12.9 (232)
later that night, 14.5 (261)
next day at 1pm 9.3 (1l67)
yesterday at 6pm 7.4 (133)
this morning at 9am 5.5 (99)

Regarding the question of weight, my civvie Hannah has lost 1.2 kg since going on the low carb diet, she was quite overweight at 7.2, and is now good at 6.0
Unfortunately, Akbah has slipped another few tenths of a kilo off his frame also, and he couldn't afford it. Pre diabetes he was 7.2, he got to 5.7 before I got him off the juice, but then he went down to 5.4 or so; last night I weighed him for the first time in a couple of months: 5.0kg. Blast. So its back to the bowl.
 
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